Wow your memory is bad.

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I couldn't describe that music...Sorry.

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It's like a boom boom shimm shimmm boom book baaaa doot doo doo boom

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DId you shake your tail to this tune back in the day SHARK?

Pretty similar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVmbhYKDKfU

A one-hit wonder, circa 1993, and a song I thought I heard in trailers for "A Night at the Roxbury"...

Followed up after the break by a cynical lips favorite after the break Pharoah Monch.

More silliness. Love it.

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Something they specialize in...

Kalaallit Nunaat will have none uh that!

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He made an "it's - its" error. They should take away his credentials for that. Or his editor's.

To think that Kentucky could beat an NBA team might be one of the dumbest things ever. But B&b were not to be outdone by the stupidity of others. They had to start insisting that this unpolished team of freshmen and sophomores would crush the undefeated '76 Indiana squad as if a new species currently plays college hoops. Jason did allow an exception for a favorite team of his youth. Apparently, the UNLV teams of the early 90s could overcome the quick evolution of human beings.

How can it be that college basketball is worse than ever due to the early departure of the best players, yet it's so obvious that a seasoned Bobby Knight coached team would get thumped by Kentucky (or apparently Vanderbilt and this years Hoosiers who actually beat them)?

The fact is that Quinn Buckner was a better athlete than any current Kentucky player. He would have been an NFL safety and he was a track star. It's easy to forget how good guys were, but I assure you there is no college basketball team anywhere at anytime that would beat the '76 Hoosiers by 50. The idea is utterly absurd.

Terry is right about one thing. It is a different game. Today's game lacks players with skills. That's why shooting percentages are so much lower today.

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That sounds like baiting but I think Bernstein actually believes it.

Love the exception for the UNLV teams, who were after all, just an NBA team with college jerseys



Thats good though. Kentucky could beat the undefeated Indiana team but split with the 2012 team.

An old UNLV team of Seniors might be equal in age to a Bobcat squad. Biyombo, Augistin, Kemba....or even a couple of years older.

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There is a very long list of people that Terry had completely trashed at one point. Off the top of my head:

Bob Huggins
Brian Billick
Hub

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and I suppose a UNC team featuring Jordan, Worthy and Perkins (all stars in both college and pros) was not even part of their discussion.

Phi Slamma Jamma was as athletic as any team in the last 30 years and better than those UNLV teams

It sounds like pure baiting today. I'm sorry I missed it.

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The 75 and 76 Indiana team would both beat this years Kentucky team.

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I don't think it's baiting though. I think they really believe that players evolved to be more athletic in 30 years. I mean, I'm sure bernstein is smart enough to know that isn't how evolution works, but I don't think he really thinks it through. He simply sees Anthony Davis run the court and he forgets how good guys were in the past. And it isn't the same watching them on old videos as the degrade.

They didn't talk about those teams. But think about it for a minute. I'm sure they wouldn't argue that Magic couldn't play today, but his Big Ten debut was the year after Benson graduated. And his Michigan State teams didn't win every game either. That championship team lost five conference games. I'm pretty sure they lost to Northwestern.

I love the way they talk about the physical attributes when it's favorable to their viewpoint. They never mention that Dwight Howard would be small compared to many of the big men in the sixties and seventies. bernstein will argue that a guy is an inch taller as if that makes a difference. Of course, all things being equal I'll take the bigger guy. But things are rarely equal. That Indiana team stacks up physically with some NBA teams of today, let alone the college teams. Benson was a fucking load. A big strapping 6'11" post player. Their backcourt was 6'3" and 6'7" and quick as hell. I don't blame Jason. He just doesn't know any better. Terry should though. bernstein is just a goof in his basketball thoughts.

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Not to mention Bobby Knight was 3 times the coach Calipari is.

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Well, yeah. But the B&b crew like to say "it's a different game today" with the implication being that today's game is better. That's just not true. Knight had four years to work with his guys. Calipari rolls out the balls. The quality of the game just isn't what it was.

But they just don't know. Jason read a list of great Kentucky players and they just dismissed them. Guys like Cliff Hagan and Frank Ramsey who I'm pretty sure are in the Hall of Fame.

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As a member of the B&B ALS I hate when they discuss college basketball (unless they are making fun of Illinois).

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I'm an Illinois guy but I found it absurd on Sunday when Finfer suggested the '05 Illini might be the best team that didn't win it. A guy called in and said that team wasn't as good as the '89 team- which it wasn't- and he tried to lawyer him by saying they didn't make the final game in '89.

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Good posts, fellas.

I think it has to do primarily with baiting callers/listeners and as well as it just being plain lazy radio and that they really just don't know a whole hell of a lot about what they speak of.

"Everybody today, even the bad players, are better than anyone in the past" The conversation and assertions would be better taken if there was an actual ounce of real analysis involved...and sadly there isn't. You had some amazing, athletic star and talent packed college teams in the "past" both recent and other wise and JORR/RFDC etc are correct in saying what they are saying. Some posters on here gave/give better analysis in a short paragraph than BernSTINE and Goff do in an entire segment. What has the world come too?


I would contend that it's a bit or whatnot but this is the angle they have taken for as long as I can remember, I really think they believe what they say. Very shallow thinking by our Hero's. I would expect more from a supposed "smart" sports talk program with a real, true life NBA EXPERT/INSIDER and Chief RunsTonsofStuff himself.

I'm just saddened by the whole ordeal, just so fucking sad.

Finfer is full of bad thoughts.

He is really a stereotypical suburban Illini alum. He once complained about people coming from the suburbs to Wrigleyville. He was justified in complaining because he had lived in the city for 5 years.

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They have good NFL and MLB talk. It's usually solid.

But the NBA/NHL/COLLEGE stuff is bad. Which is nuts when you think about it because the show has an honest to good, real life, in the flesh NBA EXPERT/INSIDER! And he doubles as a producer! How cool is that?!?!?!!??

another example of poor prouction

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I don't mind the college football stuff most of the time either. But they are horrible on college basketball.

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Well you guys know was well as I do that the subtext of Lil Danny thinking that ( if he truly does believe that to be true and isn't just baiting) is because the 76 Hoosiers started a lineup that was 40% white and no fucking way possible could a team with 2 starting white guys even compete with those big bad ballers that Kentucky rolls out there every night. Agree with the Knight / Calipari comparison as well. Knight has forgotten more basketball than Calipari will ever know. Maybe he brought a lot of this on himself for being stroonz of epic proportions but one thing you can't ever say is that Knight wasn't one hell of a basketball coach.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

the one thing these guys don't fathom is that the games (football, basketball, baseball) were all different 20 or 40 years ago. the rules were different, the equipment, training, drugs, whatever. to always assert that today's athletes are far superior is simple minded. maybe the guys from Kentucky would foul out in 10 minutes back then. all I know is that human genetics hasn't changed that much in 40 years. we're not fucking fruit flies in a lab.

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I don't think it's that human beings have genetically evolved in the last thirty years, rather that training aids and regimens have advanced so much since then, especially offseason training. Baseball players reported to spring training in horrible shape. Sometimes they had winter jobs and didn't have the time and money to be perfectly calibrated machines year-round. Sometimes they smoked two packs a day. My god, think of all the chain-smoking, Molson-pounding hockey greats who would get undressed against today's skaters. So looking across all other sports, of course it stands to reason that while LeBron James surely would've been terrific in any era, he's a product of his environment in many ways, and might not necessarily be the muscle-bound superhuman he is now.

So while it's highly likely that today's athletes are, on average, superior to yesterday's, arguing about whether a 2012 college team could hypothetically beat a 1976 college team is just the kind of non-resolving, non-illuminating barstool debate that this show thinks it's above. The only difference between "who would beat whom with access to a time machine" and something as immediately and disdainfully dismissed as a caller asking "so who ya got comin' out of the Western Conference" is that the latter isn't as immediately rife with dimestore racial implications to inflame reactionary texters with.

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This was the best point in your whole post. If college basketball is "bad" now then wouldn't a team like Kentucky be "bad" too? They didn't even go undefeated this year.

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