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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:22 am 
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That Indiana team stacks up physically with some NBA teams of today, let alone the college teams. Benson was a fucking load. A big strapping 6'11" post player. Their backcourt was 6'3" and 6'7" and quick as hell.


Not to mention Bobby Knight was 3 times the coach Calipari is.

What?

I mean Im not saying Calipari is better, but 3 times the coach?

Not a big Calipari fan?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:25 am 
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What point is the cut off for awesome athletes?


In 20 years is Bernstein going to be saying David Robinson couldnt compete athletically with the 2032 athlete?


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:33 am 
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rogers park bryan wrote:
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That Indiana team stacks up physically with some NBA teams of today, let alone the college teams. Benson was a fucking load. A big strapping 6'11" post player. Their backcourt was 6'3" and 6'7" and quick as hell.


Not to mention Bobby Knight was 3 times the coach Calipari is.

What?

I mean Im not saying Calipari is better, but 3 times the coach?

Not a big Calipari fan?


I do not have feelings one way or the other for Calipari, he has just never impressed me as a coach. He is a good recruiter with some connections with deep pockets. He is not a very good in game coach. Basically his strategy seems to get a court full of good athletes and let them run around. If there was a game between the 76 IU team and the 12 Kentucky team, Knight would coach circles around him. As would several of the all time great coaches.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
I mean Im not saying Calipari is better, but 3 times the coach?
Knight basically redefined how the game is played and coached. He was a true revolutionary.

If he wasn't such a jerk he'd probably still be coaching at Indiana.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 7:37 am 
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Ok then. Asked and answered.



This Kentucky team wasnt really "roll the ball out and let them dominate"

They played unselfishly, hard defense, and as a team.


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I don't think it's that human beings have genetically evolved in the last thirty years, rather that training aids and regimens have advanced so much since then, especially offseason training. Baseball players reported to spring training in horrible shape. Sometimes they had winter jobs and didn't have the time and money to be perfectly calibrated machines year-round. Sometimes they smoked two packs a day. My god, think of all the chain-smoking, Molson-pounding hockey greats who would get undressed against today's skaters. So looking across all other sports, of course it stands to reason that while LeBron James surely would've been terrific in any era, he's a product of his environment in many ways, and might not necessarily be the muscle-bound superhuman he is now.


Exactly. The B&b viewpoint would be like saying that John Maynard Keynes or Adam Smith couldn't compete with Paul Krugman in a discussion of economics. Those guys can't even work an Excel spreadsheet!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:27 am 
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Who am I crappin'.

Is it me or does Dan say "two" really weird?


Ding ding! You are correct. I've noticed this before, too.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Ok then. Asked and answered.



This Kentucky team wasnt really "roll the ball out and let them dominate"

They played unselfishly, hard defense, and as a team.


They play good defense but it's hard not to when you've got guys that block about 20% of the other team's shots. When I say "roll the balls out" I mean offensively. He lets these guys play and it kind of goes hand in hand with the one-and-done thing. There isn't time to put in lots of complex stuff. There used to be guys who transferred from Indiana because they couldn't get all that screening down.

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John Calipari on the Jim Rome show just talked about how he wants to teach his players habits they can use after basketball. He also talked about his players getting degrees and being a success with families and became doctors and lawyers. Looks like he gets back on the hate list of B&B along with all those terrible coaches that dare want to view themselves as someone more than a guy who uses them to win games and then doesn't care what happens like the great Bob Huggins.

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I didn't know you were a clone, Brick!

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:28 am 
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How bout a spolier alert Rick?


I listen to the Jungle at 2!


I figured he would have said he tries to make sure they never get degrees!



just kidding


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He also hates the one and done rule and wants it to be two years at a minimum. Get him Bernstein!

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
John Calipari on the Jim Rome show just talked about how he wants to teach his players habits they can use after basketball. He also talked about his players getting degrees and being a success with families and became doctors and lawyers. Looks like he gets back on the hate list of B&B along with all those terrible coaches that dare want to view themselves as someone more than a guy who uses them to win games and then doesn't care what happens like the great Bob Huggins.


He has been a head coach for 20-30 years now. I wonder if even a single one of his former players became a doctor or lawyer and what percentage earned a bachelor's degree.

I've been through that Rome listening experience during the dark days of sports radio in this city. I don't know how a person makes the affirmative decision to listen to him.

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John Calipari on the Jim Rome show just talked about how he wants to teach his players habits they can use after basketball. He also talked about his players getting degrees and being a success with families and became doctors and lawyers. Looks like he gets back on the hate list of B&B along with all those terrible coaches that dare want to view themselves as someone more than a guy who uses them to win games and then doesn't care what happens like the great Bob Huggins.

They'll just say "he's lying." And he probably is.

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I've been through that Rome listening experience during the dark days of sports radio in this city. I don't know how a person makes the affirmative decision to listen to him.

it takes a while to "get"

Once you do, its the best show on radio


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I've been through that Rome listening experience during the dark days of sports radio in this city. I don't know how a person makes the affirmative decision to listen to him.

it takes a while to "get"

Once you do, its the best show on radio

So he is Holmes before Holmes?


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John Calipari on the Jim Rome show just talked about how he wants to teach his players habits they can use after basketball. He also talked about his players getting degrees and being a success with families and became doctors and lawyers. Looks like he gets back on the hate list of B&B along with all those terrible coaches that dare want to view themselves as someone more than a guy who uses them to win games and then doesn't care what happens like the great Bob Huggins.

They'll just say "he's lying." And he probably is.
Don't they accuse Coach K and Tressel of lying about the same stuff?

Why wouldn't a coach care about a former player having a successful life? Even a guy like Cal will only have a small percentage of his players go on to enough NBA money to live comfortably forever. One of the things they say about Calipari is that the players love playing for him. If he was just throwing them to the side like discarded soldiers I doubt that he'd have the same effect as word of that gets around.

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RFDC wrote:
I don't mind the college football stuff most of the time either. But they are horrible on college basketball.


They don't talk much about college sports because they don't know much about college sports. That's why when they do talk college sports, it's almost always about coaches or the state of the sport.


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