Elmhurst Steve wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Forget the military stuff
Lets just concentrate on Steve acting like Cops and Fireman are all educated people with good backgrounds and a ton of choices.
You don't believe it to be true? Go apply for a job as a Police officer and see what the process is like. You take a physical agility/strength test, then a written examination, then a psychological examination (here is the ammo you seek-no doubt) then a Polygraph examination (lie-detector test-kinda eliminates the lying stuff) and then they do a background investigation, usually including going back to the schools and neighbors you went to/grew up around, as well. In the end they usually (except for a large department like Chicago)they will only hire 1-2 officers from a testing pool of 800-over a thousand applicants. Unless you have a degree in criminal justice or Law Enforcement Administration, your chances for employment are nil these days. In almost every Academy class these days, over 90% of the people in the classes have such degrees and of the small percentage that do not, most come from sheriff's departments from more rural locations (Jo Davies County for example). You are still allowed to be an asshole, but you have to be an educated and qualified asshole.
I cant speak on what it takes to be a cop.
I can say, the absolute dumbest kid in my high school. I mean the guy that you worried would hurt himself he was so dumb, became a cop (and a good one. Lauded by the Sun Times as part of the "Jump out boys")
Most guys I grew up with that became cops, were a similiar story.
Also, according to google, 45% of cops have a college degree. I find it hard to believe that 90% do now.
If you took all the cops and fireman I know (some in my family) about 90% of them would not be considered intelligent or educated.
Maybe my experience is unique, but I doubt it
Call the Department of Law Enforcement Academy in Springfield and ask them what percentage of the Police Officers (State Troopers and Municipal Police Department's officers are trained there-as was I ...class Vice-President of 400 hour class # 12) are College Graduates. I know the popular perception is different than reality and decades ago, only a small percentage of officers had college degrees. But that changed dramatically and today it's almost unheard of, for anyone without a college degree to get a job as a Police officer. But there are still a fair number of officers still remaining from days when college degrees were not mandatory. If you check requirements for employment for Municipal police departments that are testing for officers, you will find many have a requirement of at least a 2 year associates degree in criminal justice these days. They much prefer a 4 year degree, but make at least a 2 year degree mandatory.
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