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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 9:44 am 
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I lived on a military base for 3 years and if there were 100's of felons there I didn't notice, which sorta invalidates the point you are attempting to make.


So you did background checks on all them, you know this to be a certainty? Listen, all I am saying is that I saw enough of the "last chance" cases to know that it rarely worked out.


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I agree the military should not accept felons. You need to draw the line somewhere. I disagree that it's a problem or has somehow transformed the military.


I never said it transformed the military, but its far from perfect and by adding a criminal element, its a step in the wrong direction. I agree with u on most of it, going to leave it at that. 8)


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When people call it comedic genius, I cringe.
For the 1930's and 40's, it was.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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When people call it comedic genius, I cringe.
For the 1930's and 40's, it was.

I disagree

Reason or Noisewater should be be able to confirm or deny this.

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I lived on a military base for 3 years and if there were 100's of felons there I didn't notice, which sorta invalidates the point you are attempting to make.


So you did background checks on all them, you know this to be a certainty? Listen, all I am saying is that I saw enough of the "last chance" cases to know that it rarely worked out.

Of course I didn't do background checks. I didn't say I didn't live around a bunch of them. I said if I did, I didn't notice. So, thats why I don't think it's a problem.

It's clear we just have had different experiences, leading to different views. No problems with that.

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Hank, Im gonna half heartedly ride with you on the Stooges.


I mean its kinda funny, for about 5 minutes.


When people call it comedic genius, I cringe.


At least someone does. Thank you sir.


I never really liked the Stooges either. I hope Darkside isn't coming to pull our mancards.

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I believe Caddyshack to be a godawful, unfunny movie in every phase of the word.

Rodney Dangerfield was a one-trick pony and aside from a few chuckle-worthy lines here and there, was not funny.

Chevy Chase took one mediocre year on SNL where he pissed off EVERYBODY and turned it into a multi-million dollar career making bad movies (while continuing to piss everybody off). And in 2012, all his contemporaries still hate him. Was never funny. Still isn't.

Movie probably would've been better with Steve Martin in there somewhere. But it likely still would've sucked because the concept sucked.

Caddyshack is a classic example of Hollywood saying, "Hey let's get all these supposedly funny people on set and slap a movie together." That happens quite often nowadays, but not so much in 1980.

In closing, fuck Caddyshack.

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I believe Caddyshack to be a godawful, unfunny movie in every phase of the word.

Rodney Dangerfield was a one-trick pony and aside from a few chuckle-worthy lines here and there, was not funny.

Chevy Chase took one mediocre year on SNL where he pissed off EVERYBODY and turned it into a multi-million dollar career making bad movies (while continuing to piss everybody off). And in 2012, all his contemporaries still hate him. Was never funny. Still isn't.

Movie probably would've been better with Steve Martin in there somewhere. But it likely still would've sucked because the concept sucked.

Caddyshack is a classic example of Hollywood saying, "Hey let's get all these supposedly funny people on set and slap a movie together." That happens quite often nowadays, but not so much in 1980.

In closing, fuck Caddyshack.

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Hangover was a bad movie.

The Bulls are a worse team with Rose out of the lineup

Gordon Beckham is good at baseball

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It's one of those movies you love or hate. Not much in between.

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Gordon Beckham is good at baseball

Shirley you don't really believe that.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
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Gordon Beckham is good at baseball

Shirley you don't really believe that.

Nah, that one's a lie.

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Mark Grace was terrible for the Cubs.


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Mark Grace was terrible for the Cubs.


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Mark Grace was terrible for the Cubs.


:cry:

Represented everything thats wrong with the Cubs


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Mark Grace was terrible for the Cubs.

More hits in the 90's than Michael Jackson.

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Chevy Chase took one mediocre year on SNL where he pissed off EVERYBODY and turned it into a multi-million dollar career making bad movies (while continuing to piss everybody off). And in 2012, all his contemporaries still hate him. Was never funny. Still isn't.

Can you cite some colleagues talking shit about Chevy?

My info comes from a great book that W_Z recommended to me called, "Live From New York". It's an unauthorized biography of SNL in the words of most of the former cast members. Many of the original players told some very specific stories about Chevy being difficult to deal with, treating people like dirt, being two-faced, walking off the set, etc. This was also corroborated by cast members who were present during some of Chevy's cameos in later seasons. He was pretty much universally loathed. Chevy even confirmed it himself in the book (while simultaneously trying to justify it).

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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Mark Grace was terrible for the Cubs.


:cry:

Represented everything thats wrong with the Cubs


Getting a ton of hits and playing solid defensively?

and going through the huahs like you wouldnt believe.

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Mark Grace was terrible for the Cubs.

More hits in the 90's than Michael Jackson.

More hits in the 90's than Ike Turner.

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In closing, fuck Caddyshack.

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Getting a ton of hits and playing solid defensively?

and going through the huahs like you wouldnt believe.

First baseman who cant hit 20 homers or drive in 100 Need not apply


Shoulda kept Palmeiro

and the He's just a regular dude, he drinks and smokes!!! just bothered me....who gives a fuck? Win some games.


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Shoulda kept Palmeiro

and the He's just a regular dude, he drinks and smokes!!! just bothered me....who gives a fuck? Win some games.
Unlike Palmiero, Mark Grace most likely got those numbers with just beer and Marlboro's.

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KidCo(1984)!

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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Shoulda kept Palmeiro

and the He's just a regular dude, he drinks and smokes!!! just bothered me....who gives a fuck? Win some games.
Unlike Palmiero, Mark Grace most likely got those numbers with just beer and Marlboro's.


They had similar numbers their first few seasons. Palmeiro chose to use steriods and Grace didnt. That was the difference in their careers.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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Shoulda kept Palmeiro

and the He's just a regular dude, he drinks and smokes!!! just bothered me....who gives a fuck? Win some games.
Unlike Palmiero, Mark Grace most likely got those numbers with just beer and Marlboro's.


They had similar numbers their first few seasons. Palmeiro chose to use steriods and Grace didnt. That was the difference in their careers.

And??

Did Canseco's A's not win the WS

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Forget the military stuff


Lets just concentrate on Steve acting like Cops and Fireman are all educated people with good backgrounds and a ton of choices.



:lol:


You don't believe it to be true? Go apply for a job as a Police officer and see what the process is like. You take a physical agility/strength test, then a written examination, then a psychological examination (here is the ammo you seek-no doubt) then a Polygraph examination (lie-detector test-kinda eliminates the lying stuff) and then they do a background investigation, usually including going back to the schools and neighbors you went to/grew up around, as well. In the end they usually (except for a large department like Chicago)they will only hire 1-2 officers from a testing pool of 800-over a thousand applicants. Unless you have a degree in criminal justice or Law Enforcement Administration, your chances for employment are nil these days. In almost every Academy class these days, over 90% of the people in the classes have such degrees and of the small percentage that do not, most come from sheriff's departments from more rural locations (Jo Davies County for example). You are still allowed to be an asshole, but you have to be an educated and qualified asshole.


As far as my opinion being one that is differing than many on this subject....is that not the definition of this thread-"My Contrarian Opinion"??? Mine just happens to bring about more of an emotional reaction than some, it seems.


I can speak from personal experience. One of my buddies barely sniffed a 16 on his ACT. Went to the local community college. Took him about 8 years to get his associates. Ended up as a...cop. The other friend scored close to 30 on his ACT, attended U of I, and got his BA in Finance in four years. Ended up joining the Navy shortly thereafter and is now finishing his Masters from the same college.

I think the paint fumes are getting to you, you miserable Caller Bob.

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I can speak from personal experience. One of my buddies barely sniffed a 16 on his ACT. Went to the local community college. Took him about 8 years to get his associates. Ended up as a...cop. The other friend scored close to 30 on his ACT, attended U of I, and got his BA in Finance in four years. Ended up joining the Navy shortly thereafter and is now finishing his Masters from the same college.

I think the paint fumes are getting to you, you miserable Caller Bob.

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Steroids were not bad for baseball and the era should be viewed no differently than when the height of the pitching mound changed.

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Steroids were not bad for baseball and the era should be viewed no differently than when the height of the pitching mound changed.

973 pages. Minimum.


Oh wait, this isn't ESPN. Carry on.

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Thick is a poor justification for being overweight and an entire generation of men have been brainwashed into accepting the mediocrity.

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