Open plea to Big Fan - Out Juggs or ban him

Hawg Ass · **Joined:** Mon Jul 16, 2007 2:00 pm **Posts:** 30335

Nas wrote:

beni hanna wrote:

Ding. I thought you were the first of the accused that "admitted" being Juggs.

I've been accused of being a few mults but when I admit to being one the crew ignores my admission and a few other admissions because they're locked in on one guy. Spanky's head exploded the other day because of this. It's very sad too. That entire city was destroyed. Looked like it was nuked.

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

I kinda didnt believe Nas' admission because afterward he was still looking for JUGGS

Hank Scorpio · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:27 pm

rogers park bryan wrote:

I kinda didnt believe Nas' admission because afterward he was still looking for JUGGS

Isnt that exactly what someone would do that really was Juggs.

BTW, the password to Juggs is Password69.

Nas · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:40 pm

rogers park bryan wrote:

Like Ivan pointed out, you are working with bad info

Hoffy sent Ivan a PM telling him to "stop it" when Ivan was hinting he was Juggs on the board.

Then Hoffy started a thread talking about another PM Ivan sent him that was deleted.

Anyway were not finding a way to link it. He said its him. No link neccessary.

Also, Frank, SPmack and Rick are not Crew.

Why was the PM JUGGS sent to Hoffy never posted?

Sadly, I believe Hoffy's owing up to Levi was pruned. You can think thats bullshit but at the time, there was no connection to Juggs and there ARE in fact several posts by different board members referring to the admission

This is considered the evidence against Hoffy? Really? That's laughable. It really is. It's beyond a stretch. Why would Hoffy target Kid? Why does Hoffy love Spmack and WZ? What about Hoffy would make you believe he has the balls to insult his wife in that way? Even if you believe his wife is in on it why would she say those things about herself? Why doesn't the posts that are more than 1 line fit Hoffy's posting style? How does he manage to not lose that password? When did BF begin liking Hoffy? When did RNM return his balls?

Hank Scorpio · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:43 pm

I'm just disappointed that Juggs isnt still posting and throwing this all in everyone's face.

Nas · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:43 pm

rogers park bryan wrote:

I kinda didnt believe Nas' admission because afterward he was still looking for JUGGS

Now we're getting somewhere. There are more things that would point to me being Juggs instead of Hoffy. Hell my birthday is in April. I don't do contests and I don't attack families but I could have done those things to throw people off.

beni hanna · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:44 pm

Anyone else notice how good it is to have Nas back?

Rod · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:48 pm

Hank Scorpio wrote:

I'm just disappointed that Juggs isnt still posting and throwing this all in everyone's face.

Juggs stopped posting as soon as Ivan called Hoffy out. MORE EVIDENCE!

Darkside · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:50 pm

Nas wrote:

This is considered the evidence against Hoffy? Really? That's laughable. It really is. It's beyond a stretch. Why would Hoffy target Kid? Why does Hoffy love Spmack and WZ? What about Hoffy would make you believe he has the balls to insult his wife in that way? Even if you believe his wife is in on it why would she say those things about herself? Why doesn't the posts that are more than 1 line fit Hoffy's posting style? How does he manage to not lose that password? When did BF begin liking Hoffy? When did RNM return his balls?

Dude, that's what you do when you mult. It's right in the mult handbook, you need a nemesis. You also must have someone that you love love love! It happens across multiple mult owners too. Riles and his army. I did that with KJI against Frank... why? Randomly insluting multiple people isn't compelling. Going against someone repeatedly for no reason whatsoever is however funny. Would Old Man Potter be as funny if he didn't have feelings for certain posters? Would Mao (who, no matter what you say, was fun and entertaining about 80% of the time or better) have been the same without his love for certain posters?

Nas · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:55 pm

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Hank Scorpio wrote:

I'm just disappointed that Juggs isnt still posting and throwing this all in everyone's face.

Juggs stopped posting as soon as Ivan called Hoffy out. MORE EVIDENCE!

I love Hoffy like a brother from a different mother but RNM appears to wear the pants in that marriage and have a little more toughness. Even with all of that being true she's never come across as mean. If you you paid Hoffy he couldn't type some of those things. Especially about his wife.

Guy Fieri · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:56 pm

Darkside wrote:

Nas wrote:

This is considered the evidence against Hoffy? Really? That's laughable. It really is. It's beyond a stretch. Why would Hoffy target Kid? Why does Hoffy love Spmack and WZ? What about Hoffy would make you believe he has the balls to insult his wife in that way? Even if you believe his wife is in on it why would she say those things about herself? Why doesn't the posts that are more than 1 line fit Hoffy's posting style? How does he manage to not lose that password? When did BF begin liking Hoffy? When did RNM return his balls?

Dude, that's what you do when you mult. It's right in the mult handbook, you need a nemesis. You also must have someone that you love love love! It happens across multiple mult owners too. Riles and his army. I did that with KJI against Frank... why? Randomly insluting multiple people isn't compelling. Going against someone repeatedly for no reason whatsoever is however funny. Would Old Man Potter be as funny if he didn't have feelings for certain posters? Would Mao (who, no matter what you say, was fun and entertaining about 80% of the time or better) have been the same without his love for certain posters?

Hey! My big white addonis, Darkside knows exactly what he's talking about! So, Darko, you want a grab a big ol' plate o' biscuits and gravy with me at a little place called Lorraine's Bitchy Waitresses and Dirty Dishes?

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

Nas wrote:

This is considered the evidence against Hoffy? Really?

No. Wrong Again.

The evidence has been posted.

But you saying "You guys are linking it to him" after he admitted is pretty silly.

It seems you just DONT want to believe it's Hoffy. Thats fine.

Rod · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:57 pm

Nas wrote:

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Hank Scorpio wrote:

I'm just disappointed that Juggs isnt still posting and throwing this all in everyone's face.

Juggs stopped posting as soon as Ivan called Hoffy out. MORE EVIDENCE!

I love Hoffy like a brother from a different mother but RNM appears to wear the pants in that marriage and have a little more toughness. Even with all of that being true she's never come across as mean. If you you paid Hoffy he couldn't type some of those things. Especially about his wife.

I'm sure mults aren't the only thing the Hoffys share.

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

Nas wrote:

she's never come across as mean.

There are certain segments of the population that might disagree with you. Dirty Hippies for one.

Nas wrote:

If you you paid Hoffy he couldn't type some of those things. Especially about his wife.

Firstly, if they were tyring to cover the mult, thats how you do it.

Obviously, that works. Lot of people using that to defend them

Also, I dont know why people think Hoffy couldnt do this or write these things. Im not ripping him or saying he's a jerk but he has posted some out there type stuff.

Nas · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:03 pm

rogers park bryan wrote:

Nas wrote:

This is considered the evidence against Hoffy? Really?

No. Wrong Again.

The evidence has been posted.

But you saying "You guys are linking it to him" after he admitted is pretty silly.

It seems you just DONT want to believe it's Hoffy. Thats fine.

I'm open to it being him. I just haven't seen enough to make me believe it is. That's why I was hoping someone would put all of it in one post. I've admitted to being Juggs and no one actually believes that I'm being truthful. That weak admission didn't mean anything.

Douchebag · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:03 pm **Posts:** 43583

rogers park bryan wrote:

Nas wrote:

she's never come across as mean.

There are certain segments of the population that might disagree with you. Dirty Hippies for one.

Nas wrote:

If you you paid Hoffy he couldn't type some of those things. Especially about his wife.

Firstly, if they were tyring to cover the mult, thats how you do it.

Obviously, that works. Lot of people using that to defend them

Also, I dont know why people think Hoffy couldnt do this or write these things. Im not ripping him or saying he's a jerk but he has posted some out there type stuff.

Exactly, I had a mult that I create (Erik Estrada) that called RPB a "burrito" multiple times. I consider RPB a friend, so obviously I didn't mean it. People who mult are playing characters. I don't RNM would take a joke personal from her multing husband. That would just be silly.

Nas · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:08 pm

Not long ago many of these same people were 100% sure it was GD. Kid even went out of his way to attack GD. Eventually he and others decided it wasn't GD.

NSJ · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:09 pm

Ten points worth considering:

1. The RNM quote, Juggs interaction and the knowledge of a trip they never alluded to on this board

Juggs wrote:

Redneckmommy wrote:

who knows, some of the men on here might have man boobs

But thats what I love about Hoffy.
You free this Saturday night? Would like to recreate that night in Nashville.

Redneckmommy wrote:

depends what night you want to watch the pookers so him and i can re-create that night...and what night from what nashville trip is up to us

Juggs wrote:

Im with you, shhhhhh keep it all quiet. :wink:

2. Juggs public support of Hoffy in a board contest

Juggs wrote:

CALLING ALL DRAMA QUEENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You are needed here in this thread immediately, one of our own is about to go down!
We must save our friend Hoffy from the evil bagels. :alien:

3. OKC’s interaction with Hoffy regarding Juggs and the notion that a mult would insult the Hoffy’s via a Private Message.

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

Krazy Ivan wrote:

Nope. It was a ruse. Funny enough, Cairo was somehow involved in the whole exchange. Like Hoffy wanted to distance himself from the character and align with Cairo in some twisted way. Wild stuff there...

What happened was, during a Bears chat in late 2009 Hoffy asked me if I were Juggs. Obviously I took offense and asked him why the fuck he would ask me that. He explained to me that "Juggs" had PM'ed some insulting things to he and RNM. I let him know that I don't do shit like that. That was the end of the conversation.
Shortly thereafter, I took that info to the board and Juggs got insanely upset at the PM accusation.

4. Hoffy very upset with Juggs, but not wanting him outed

Puckhead wrote:

Thanks DD, but I dont want Juggs outed.

5. Misdirection

Puckhead wrote:

I should have just put the burrito on ignore a while back, but I try not to put people on ignore unless I really need to (chaspoopcapp is the only one I have as of now). Early on when the burrito started posting here, my wife and I were put on a top ten list. I laughed a bit. Then, we started getting PMs. At first I thought it was Ryno's wife, but I dont think it is.
If it is NSJ, I would be really disappointed because his other aliases have been generally cool (ex-media guy).
I got my shots in, Im happy, we can all move on. If he wants to compare my wife to that troll, let him. Im sure he has a troll of his own at home, at best.

6. RNM not “getting her dander up” at personal insults on the board and via Private Message.

Redneckmommy wrote:

Like I said, Didn't read the original thread untill today. When i did and came back to this one I was touched that someone stepped up to the plate and did what they did. When i read it I was like what ever, this isn't 4th grade. I know I give it and can take it. I am not going to get my dander up unless it is truly a heartless attack on me and my family, especially my kid.
If this sick minded person whats to act the way they do, then fine...they won't get far in life and will be a lonley bitter old person because who wants to hang around with someone that immature.

7. The Levi Johnston link

Juggs’ first post was a response to Levi Johnston. It was suggested by RPB (I believe) that at some point he admitted being Levi Johnston. CLH denies it.

Juggs wrote:

Levi Johnston wrote:

If I could just find a troll that's young, hot, and has gigantic party pillows, we could have all sorts of new trolls running around here in no time! Can anybody help me out?

You called baby?

Hoffy fell for one of my pranks and when it was outed Levi called me a “liar”

NSJ wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

spanky wrote:

Reasons like "He didn't deny being Levi Johnston so he must be Juggs"

Just a clarification cause this was my contribution.
I believe Hoffy admitted being Levi.
Then later, after Levi was tied to Juggs, denied it.

I've had one interaction with Levi . . .
1. I posted a picture claiming it was my Vegas winning betting slip on the Cardinals to win the World Series
2. Hoffy fell for it and was the first or second to respond about the widfall
3. When the story broke, Levi Johnston called me a "liar" and posted a yahoo story about the guy who placed the bet.

Never had any interactions with him otherwise.

8. Hoffy’s counter evidence that he “stopped multing” around the time Golden Domer was banned

Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

I stopped multing a while back. Anyone that thinks I am Juggs is a moron. Part of me hopes I never find out who Juggs is because Im not sure what I would do to him/her.

Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

NSJ wrote:

Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

I stopped multing a while back.

When did you stop?

After BigFan brought down the hammer on the goldendomer mult.

9. A confident accusation that it must be Ivan when there’s no “evidence” that it is

Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

Well, it all makes sense now. Krazy Ivan is Juggs. It only stands to reason that his issues with Kid Cairo drove him to this. While some claimed Good Dolphin, I knew it wasnt him because Juggs knew things about my Facebook account that Good Dolphin would not have know about. Interestingly, Ivan is a Facebook friend of both mine and RNM.

10. Admitting that it’s him after being heavily accused

Crystal Lake Hoffy wrote:

FUCK! Fine, I admit it.

I am Juggs.

Although several have “admitted” they were Juggs (e.g. Nas, FF, Frank, Terry’s Peeps, etc.), none of those were ever accused of it. There’s a difference in randomly admitting it vs. admitting it after your "under heavy suspicion".

Nas · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:11 pm

Other than the comments made about RNM what has Juggs said that was so terrible? Sure the mult annoyed the hell out of Kid (who doesn't) but even after scanning all of the posts yesterday I can't see anything else that was truly crossing the line.

rogers park bryan · **Joined:** Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm **Posts:** 81625

Nas wrote:

Other than the comments made about RNM what has Juggs said that was so terrible?

Only Kid can truly answer that, but It was very stalky.

Read the first few pages of this thread. The whole board was tiring of it.

It wasnt just Kid getting upset

Rod · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:17 pm

Nas wrote:

Other than the comments made about RNM what has Juggs said that was so terrible? Sure the mult annoyed the hell out of Kid (who doesn't) but even after scanning all of the posts yesterday I can't see anything else that was truly crossing the line.

This is an interesting development. You seemed very eager to direct attention away from Hoffy until confronted with all of the circumstantial evidence and now you shift into mitigating what Juggs has actually posted. Things that make you go hmmmmmm.........

Don Tiny · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:18 pm

Darkside wrote:

Randomly insulting multiple people isn't compelling.

Well now you fuckin' tell me ........

Hank Scorpio · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:20 pm

This is like a set of experts going over the Zapruder Film. Except this isnt important and no one is really an expert.

Rod · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:22 pm

Hank Scorpio wrote:

This is like a set of experts going over the Zapruder Film. Except this isnt important and no one is really an expert.

Well, I for one no longer think Lee Hoffy Oswald was acting as a lone multman. Juggs is a conspiracy. Likely hatched at Hoops at Hiawatha I by Hoffy, Nas, RNM and possibly others.

Nas · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:24 pm

Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:

Nas wrote:

Other than the comments made about RNM what has Juggs said that was so terrible? Sure the mult annoyed the hell out of Kid (who doesn't) but even after scanning all of the posts yesterday I can't see anything else that was truly crossing the line.

This is an interesting development. You seemed very eager to direct attention away from Hoffy until confronted with all of the circumstantial evidence and now you shift into mitigating what Juggs has actually posted. Things that make you go hmmmmmm.........

I made the same comments many pages back and you may have noticed that I still don't believe any of the "evidence" points to Hoffy. Feel free to carry on.

Brick · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:26 pm

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=1256457#p1256457

"If you can look past the context". The context just happened to be attacking RNM.

Douchebag · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:03 pm **Posts:** 43583

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=1256457#p1256457

"If you can look past the context". The context just happened to be attacking RNM.

Oh snap!

spmack · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:31 pm

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=1256457#p1256457

"If you can look past the context". The context just happened to be attacking RNM.

I doubt it's Shirtless Driver.

Nas · **Posted:** Wed Apr 18, 2012 2:38 pm

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=1256457#p1256457

"If you can look past the context". The context just happened to be attacking RNM.

Shirtless Driver is Hoffy. I knew it!

Douchebag · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:03 pm **Posts:** 43583

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=1256457#p1256457

"If you can look past the context". The context just happened to be attacking RNM.

I think Rick's link is pointing out that Hoffy is Levi (which he has denied). Levi was pruned, so there isn't much left except quoted posts. This doesn't link Shirtless Driver to Juggs, but it does improve the link of Hoffy to Juggs.

Open plea to Big Fan - Out Juggs or ban him

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