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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:12 am 
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I'm an idiot too. A newspaper subscription costs................almost nothing. I still read a paper almost daily.
It's still easier to find stats/standings/results in a paper than online. Assuming that you have a paper.
I do not tip my paper delivery guy.


I don't subscribe anymore mainly because I got annoyed whenever the paper wasn't there and it happened quite a bit. Maybe they never delivered it. Maybe someone snatched it. I don't know. All I know is I don't have the paper I paid for. Too much aggravation. I'd rather just walk or drive to 7-Eleven and buy the papers. I read both of them everyday.

Reading the actual paper is a completely different experience than reading online. You have to seek stuff out online. And I don't care who you are, it's human nature to simply seek out those things in which you are already interested. So there's going to be a lot of stuff you're not getting. You may not care, but that doesn't mean it isn't important.

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I'm an idiot too. A newspaper subscription costs................almost nothing. I still read a paper almost daily.
It's still easier to find stats/standings/results in a paper than online. Assuming that you have a paper.
I do not tip my paper delivery guy.

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If it takes more than seconds in either case you're doing it wrong.

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No tip should ever be required for carryout. You are doing all the work. Now, if I have to pay cash because for some stupid reason the place think it's 1995 and they can get away with being cash only I'll throw the coins in the jar because I can't stand having coins with me.

With wait staff, unless it's obvious, you should give them the benefit of the doubt. It's often bad management that leads to bad service. Also, they may be new. Now, if they are sitting at the bar talking about how they were so drunk last night then you can enjoy your lowered tip. Never less than 12% though. That sends a message without putting them on a diet of ramen noodles.

I agree with douchebag. Newspapers are terrible.

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Along the same lines: (Since most of us don't tip carry-out) Everybody goes through the effort of actually putting a "0" or a "'--------------------" on the gratuity line, right? I love when the employee sighs as your doing that.

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Along the same lines: (Since most of us don't tip carry-out) Everybody goes through the effort of actually putting a "0" or a "'--------------------" on the gratuity line, right? I love when the employee sighs as your doing that.
If you don't, make sure that you do. A couple of years ago before band practice, Darko, drummer jesus and I met for breakfast. IIRC, Darko put the bill on his card and we paid him cash. We also left cash for tip, but the server had changed the amount run on his card to include the tip. He can verify, but I think thats how it all went down.

I rarely tip at carryout. If its a big order like for a party or something I will.

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It's not tipping I believe in, it's overtipping.
Spaulding is right, if you go to same carryout place and tip well you get extras. Not like happy ending extras, but the pizza place gives us some garlic rolls, chinese place throws in some extra stuff because they know us and we tip well.
My haircuts are 22 and I give her 30. but she has a big rack that rubs against me so it is worth it.
I dont think it is wrong not to tip the carryout person, but it cant hurt if you do.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:20 am 
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Reading the actual paper is a completely different experience than reading online. You have to seek stuff out online. And I don't care who you are, it's human nature to simply seek out those things in which you are already interested. So there's going to be a lot of stuff you're not getting. You may not care, but that doesn't mean it isn't important.
Most news is unimportant. In reality, there are only a few things a year that happen that really matter.

For example, here are todays top stories from Chicago Tribune.
CME CEO Donohue to step down next month -No
Updated 9 minutes ago
Prolific burglar cyberstalked those who crossed him, prosecutors say-No
Updated 7:05 a.m.
Body discovered in Chicago River in Avondale neighborhood-No
Updated 2 minutes ago
Oak Park attack motivated by Trayvon Martin killing: official-No
Updated 7:14 a.m.
Murdoch admits to cover-up over tabloid's phone hacking-No
Updated 15 minutes ago
Healthcare reforms lead to $1.3 billion in rebates: study
Updated 18 minutes ago
Court convicts ex-Liberian president Taylor of war crimes-No
Updated 7:34 a.m.
United Continental posts steep quarterly loss-No
Updated 7:22 a.m.
Motorcyclist killed in Schaumburg crash-No
Updated 5:28 a.m.
Americans increasingly back gay marriage, gun rights
Updated 5:05 a.m.
Judge ends home confinement early for ex-Ald. Vrdolyak-No
Updated 4:07 a.m.
Pompei's mock draft; predicts Bears taking Illini's Mercilus-No
Updated 12:01 a.m.

I put No's next to everything that either I don't care about now, or won't care about or remember in a week.

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Personally Brick, I support gay marriage, gun rights, and married gays with guns.

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:25 am 
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Personally Brick, I support gay marriage, gun rights, and married gays with guns.
I do too, though one of those will never affect me personally as I probably will never purchase a gun.

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Vincent Antonelli wrote:
It's not tipping I believe in, it's overtipping.
Spaulding is right, if you go to same carryout place and tip well you get extras. Not like happy ending extras, but the pizza place gives us some garlic rolls, chinese place throws in some extra stuff because they know us and we tip well.
My haircuts are 22 and I give her 30. but she has a big rack that rubs against me so it is worth it.
I dont think it is wrong not to tip the carryout person, but it cant hurt if you do.


Our egg rolls or fried rice is usually free. Every once and a while we get drinks salads or desserts from our pizza place. If it's a big order for having people over free cheese pizza or one of the ones we ordered will be free. Waiters and waitresses will give free apps, drinks, or dessert. Honestly we probably break even over the course of a year but everybody is happier. They bust their ass for us and I'm never thinking they did something to my food.


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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Reading the actual paper is a completely different experience than reading online. You have to seek stuff out online. And I don't care who you are, it's human nature to simply seek out those things in which you are already interested. So there's going to be a lot of stuff you're not getting. You may not care, but that doesn't mean it isn't important.
Most news is unimportant. In reality, there are only a few things a year that happen that really matter.

For example, here are todays top stories from Chicago Tribune.
CME CEO Donohue to step down next month -No
Updated 9 minutes ago
Prolific burglar cyberstalked those who crossed him, prosecutors say-No
Updated 7:05 a.m.
Body discovered in Chicago River in Avondale neighborhood-No
Updated 2 minutes ago
Oak Park attack motivated by Trayvon Martin killing: official-No
Updated 7:14 a.m.
Murdoch admits to cover-up over tabloid's phone hacking-No
Updated 15 minutes ago
Healthcare reforms lead to $1.3 billion in rebates: study
Updated 18 minutes ago
Court convicts ex-Liberian president Taylor of war crimes-No
Updated 7:34 a.m.
United Continental posts steep quarterly loss-No
Updated 7:22 a.m.
Motorcyclist killed in Schaumburg crash-No
Updated 5:28 a.m.
Americans increasingly back gay marriage, gun rights
Updated 5:05 a.m.
Judge ends home confinement early for ex-Ald. Vrdolyak-No
Updated 4:07 a.m.
Pompei's mock draft; predicts Bears taking Illini's Mercilus-No
Updated 12:01 a.m.

I put No's next to everything that either I don't care about now, or won't care about or remember in a week.


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:36 am 
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Spaulding wrote:
Honestly we probably break even over the course of a year but everybody is happier.


Whoa! Everybody's happier except the owner who is paying for your "free" fried rice so his thieving employees can get a tip on carry-out. When my guy Robert Irvine shows up with Restaurant Impossible he'll put a stop to that!

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Boilermaker Rick: Promoting ignorance on the CSFMB since 2006
:lol: Not really. I just believe I have only so much brainpower to share with the world every day. It would be a travesty to waste even a small amount of it learning that some ex-alderman from a city I don't live in can leave his house without asking for permission.

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spanky wrote:
Along the same lines: (Since most of us don't tip carry-out) Everybody goes through the effort of actually putting a "0" or a "'--------------------" on the gratuity line, right? I love when the employee sighs as your doing that.
If you don't, make sure that you do. A couple of years ago before band practice, Darko, drummer jesus and I met for breakfast. IIRC, Darko put the bill on his card and we paid him cash. We also left cash for tip, but the server had changed the amount run on his card to include the tip. He can verify, but I think thats how it all went down.

I rarely tip at carryout. If its a big order like for a party or something I will.

That's exactly how it went down. Bitch helped herself to a $10 tip on a $17 breakfast.
I almost always tip in cash when paying with a CC. Normally, on the tip line, I write "cash". This one damn time I didn't and she just added a $10 tip in there.
Credit card company was fantastic, they took damn fine and quick care of it too. Capital One.

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Whoa! Everybody's happier except the owner who is paying for your "free" fried rice so his thieving employees can get a tip on carry-out. When my guy Robert Irvine shows up with Restaurant Impossible he'll put a stop to that!


The chinese place are the owners. The pizza guy is the one that started "and take a free cheese pizza for da leetle ones" in a great Italian accent. An occasional free something is part of what keeps me a loyal customer with deep pockets. If they gave me something free last time or might this time sometimes I over order. They are being smart small business owners.

Same applies to restaurants we frequent. They also make more than enough to make up for it on alcohol. I probably average about $18-27 when I go out. If we go out with friends or parents our bar bill can be about 50% of our tab.


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I wonder how much you tip a guy for putting in hardwood floors.

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spanky wrote:
Along the same lines: (Since most of us don't tip carry-out) Everybody goes through the effort of actually putting a "0" or a "'--------------------" on the gratuity line, right? I love when the employee sighs as your doing that.
If you don't, make sure that you do. A couple of years ago before band practice, Darko, drummer jesus and I met for breakfast. IIRC, Darko put the bill on his card and we paid him cash. We also left cash for tip, but the server had changed the amount run on his card to include the tip. He can verify, but I think thats how it all went down.

I rarely tip at carryout. If its a big order like for a party or something I will.

That's exactly how it went down. Bitch helped herself to a $10 tip on a $17 breakfast.
I almost always tip in cash when paying with a CC. Normally, on the tip line, I write "cash". This one damn time I didn't and she just added a $10 tip in there.
Credit card company was fantastic, they took damn fine and quick care of it too. Capital One.

:lol: I'm still working on "Drummer Jesus". It's funny because it's true.

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I wonder how much you tip a guy for putting in hardwood floors.

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They also make more than enough to make up for it on alcohol. I probably average about 18-27 when I go out.

(Drummer) Jeezus, I thought I drank a lot...you are a lush.

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OKC, that's one of the reasons he didn't cut it with the band...
That and asking SSE if he wanted his autograph while in the bathroom. :lol:

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Spaulding wrote:
Guy Fieri wrote:
Whoa! Everybody's happier except the owner who is paying for your "free" fried rice so his thieving employees can get a tip on carry-out. When my guy Robert Irvine shows up with Restaurant Impossible he'll put a stop to that!


The chinese place are the owners. The pizza guy is the one that started "and take a free cheese pizza for da leetle ones" in a great Italian accent. An occasional free something is part of what keeps me a loyal customer with deep pockets. If they gave me something free last time or might this time sometimes I over order. They are being smart small business owners.

Same applies to restaurants we frequent. They also make more than enough to make up for it on alcohol. I probably average about $18-27 when I go out. If we go out with friends or parents our bar bill can be about 50% of our tab.


This raises another interesting conversation. Some people don't believe in tipping owners. I've known guys who didn't tip when the owner waited on us and I know there are women that don't tip at a salon if the owner is the one doing their hair. Should we be exempt from tipping owners? CSFMB- what say you?

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They also make more than enough to make up for it on alcohol. I probably average about 18-27 when I go out.

(Drummer) Jeezus, I thought I drank a lot...you are a lush.
Eh, depending on prices and/or what she is drinking, that may only be like 3 drinks.

We can drink $2-4 pints of beer and be fine. Sometimes the gals drink a martini or wine at the tune of $6-9 a pop. It can add up real quick.

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I drink wine, margaritas, and martinis. They run about 8-12 and I usually have 2. Some of you have seen I cannot hold my booze.


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I drink wine, margaritas, and martinis. They run about 8-12 and I usually have 2. Some of you have seen I cannot hold my booze.

You don't hold it son... you drink it!

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I drink wine, margaritas, and martinis. They run about 8-12 and I usually have 2. Some of you have seen I cannot hold my booze.

You don't hold it son... you drink it!


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How much does bad rum in a diet pepsi bottle cost these days??????

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I always tip well. Partly because I worked as a waiter at a country club in my younger days so I remember how it was to make BELOW minimum wage and depend on gratuity. To Insure Proper Service.(TIPS). 15% minimum even if service is subpar unless I am just ignored totally. Then they get a dollar. Usually 25% anywhere we go to sit down,order and eat. They remember. We go to a breakfast place called Riverside and the waitresses fight to wait on us because they know even if my nine year old daughter is being a total fuckstick and I am on two hours of sleep and a grouchy asshole they are gonna get paid damn well.


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How much does bad rum in a diet pepsi bottle cost these days??????

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