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 Post subject: Brandon Hardin
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Brandon Hardin
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Positives -- Great size and build, will have no problem with bigger tight ends and receivers in the NFL... Elite speed, ran a 4.38-40 at his pro day... Good at reading the quarterback's eyes and diagnosing plays... Great in the box safety with impressive tackling skills; an absolutely punishing tackler, just YouTube
his name and you will see some incredible hits... Great against the run and excels in blitzing... A beast on special teams, if for whatever reason Hardin does not pan out on defense he can be a consistent and impact player on special teams coverage... A great physical specimen with exceptional upside if he can stay healthy and make the transition to safety successfully... Has the potential to be part of a new breed of tall, speedy defensive backs... Despite missing the entire season, was invited to the East-West Shrine Game.

Negatives -- Played at Oregon State as a cornerback but will need to make his money at the next level playing safety... Has good speed but not enough to play tight man coverage against top end receivers... Needs more work on his fundamentals in coverage... Suffered a season ending shoulder injury, which teams will need to examine and keep their eyes on going forward... Sitting out the year will decrease his draft stock with the lack of recent game film... Is really a projection at safety, which will lower his stock come draft day... Was a combine snub which is concerning because the combine is great for teams to evaluate injuries and see players with less game film.

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 Post subject: Re: Brandon Hardin
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Hardin thick

What would a bear draft be without an underwhelming 3rd round safety pick?

For fucks sake, I know I'm not an expert but how many years in a row does your OL have to suck before your realize they suck.

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 Post subject: Re: Brandon Hardin
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 Post subject: Re: Brandon Hardin
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good dolphin wrote:
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What would a bear draft be without an underwhelming 3rd round safety pick?

For fucks sake, I know I'm not an expert but how many years in a row does your OL have to suck before your realize they suck.

Evidently, they really do think they have enough talent there. It clearly wasn't a priority. I guess we'll just have to see...

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 Post subject: Re: Brandon Hardin
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Would have rather had OL here.

But I do love the combo of height and speed on this kid.

They need some big, fast DBs to deal with the WRs in their division

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good dolphin wrote:
Hardin thick

What would a bear draft be without an underwhelming 3rd round safety pick?

For fucks sake, I know I'm not an expert but how many years in a row does your OL have to suck before your realize they suck.

Did you miss the part where they say he will be a special teams beast? You can never have enough beasts on special teams.

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 Post subject: Re: Brandon Hardin
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I like the positives but agree the highly rated OT Massie would give the OL much needed depth.


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 Post subject: Re: Brandon Hardin
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RFDC wrote:
Would have rather had OL here.

But I do love the combo of height and speed on this kid.

They need some big, fast DBs to deal with the WRs in their division


His highlight picture above is a guy making a reception as he trails the play

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 Post subject: Re: Brandon Hardin
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I like the pick a ton. They've gotta address the line with one of these picks, but I'm always a fan of improving your safety depth, especially when your starters are Conte and Wright.

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RFDC wrote:
Would have rather had OL here.

But I do love the combo of height and speed on this kid.

They need some big, fast DBs to deal with the WRs in their division

NFL Network saying he's the sort of guy to counter TEs.

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 Post subject: Re: Brandon Hardin
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good dolphin wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Would have rather had OL here.

But I do love the combo of height and speed on this kid.

They need some big, fast DBs to deal with the WRs in their division


His highlight picture above is a guy making a reception as he trails the play


Good call as one highlight picture tells the whole story.

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Dewskie wrote:
I'm always a fan of improving your safety depth, especially when your starters are Conte and Wright.


And if he's healthy is also a plus.


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 Post subject: Re: Brandon Hardin
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MattInTheCrown wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Would have rather had OL here.

But I do love the combo of height and speed on this kid.

They need some big, fast DBs to deal with the WRs in their division

NFL Network saying he's the sort of guy to counter TEs.


Yeah thats a good point too.

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I like the pick a ton.

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RFDC wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Would have rather had OL here.

But I do love the combo of height and speed on this kid.

They need some big, fast DBs to deal with the WRs in their division


His highlight picture above is a guy making a reception as he trails the play


Good call as one highlight picture tells the whole story.


slow on the uptake regarding the purpose of a highlight, I see

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 Post subject: Re: Brandon Hardin
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8th year in a row selecting a safety.


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 Post subject: Re: Brandon Hardin
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Dewskie wrote:
I like the pick a ton. .


Well, at least it will be clear that one of us is right and the other is wrong when this draft is analyzed

I thought we ended the taking guys with debilitating injuries with the hopes a miracle cure occurs when Angelo walked out the door.

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8th year in a row selecting a safety.

That is tremendous depth.

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 Post subject: Re: Brandon Hardin
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I hope they don't draft an OL at all.

Mac will be great to listen to on Monday.

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 Post subject: Re: Brandon Hardin
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His highlight picture above is a guy making a reception as he trails the play


There's not that many photos of Hardin out there, so I just went with that one, which is obviously less than flattering.

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 Post subject: Re: Brandon Hardin
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Well, at least it will be clear that one of us is right and the other is wrong when this draft is analyzed

I thought we ended the taking guys with debilitating injuries with the hopes a miracle cure occurs when Angelo walked out the door.


We have the same rest of the staff though. Needed to clean house.


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 Post subject: Re: Brandon Hardin
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Is this more to your liking dolphin?

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From Biggs twitter:

"Let’s follow spinning carousel of safeties for #Bears under Lovie Smith. Draft picks with 3rd rounder Brandon Hardin going back to 2005 – Chris Conte, Major Wright, Al Afalava, Craig Steltz, Kevin Payne, Danieal Manning, Chris Harris. Don’t forget woeful trade for Adam Archuleta and regrettable signing of Brandon Meriweather. Team has thrown numbers at position but has yet to solve it. They long for days of Mike Brown and Tony Parrish."


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I like the positives but agree the highly rated OT Massie would give the OL much needed depth.

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...are we seriously talking about cleaning house and firing people 4 months before the preseason?

*smh* I need to ignore this section more often.

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 Post subject: Re: Brandon Hardin
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RFDC wrote:
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again, the WR made a reception

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I stand corrected. Emery said Hardin is "medically sound".


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Lamar Miller is a freaking beast and still sitting there.

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...are we seriously talking about cleaning house and firing people 4 months before the preseason?

*smh* I need to ignore this section more often.


This was talked about the day Emery was hired. Wouldn't you expect him to bring in his own people?

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 Post subject: Re: Brandon Hardin
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Pretty sure I was saying that about 4 months ago. Jerry wasn't the only problem. Needed is in the past tense.

How do you seriously take a gamble on a 2 year injured safety when you have a OL that you need on right on the board?

Please ignore all you want!


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