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He should've went to the Eagles, so we could call him "Eaglo Jeffrey"


My God Colonel, did you steal Jeff's black book?

Steal it? I wrote the damn thing! :P

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He should've went to the Eagles, so we could call him "Eaglo Jeffrey"


There was no earthly reason for me to laugh as hard as I did at that.


It must have been the delivery. Timing is everything.


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Emery is cuming hard in the press conference on this guy per Biggs:

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I'm amazed you can type with Ted Thompson's dick in your mouth.

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I'm amazed you can type with Ted Thompson's dick in your mouth.

How would that affect my typing?

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I'm amazed you can type with Ted Thompson's dick in your mouth.

How would that affect my typing?


I would hope seeing as that it's your beloved GM you'd throw some hand in there as well, give him the full treatment.

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I'm amazed you can type with Ted Thompson's dick in your mouth.

How would that affect my typing?


typically selfish lover not cupping the hairy apple bag

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 Post subject: Re: Alshon Jeffery
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I like this one. After a month in Bourbonnais, he won't be fat. Hearing that he had the "Best hands" of any WR in the draft is very encouraging. So now we have Bennett and him to pick up some key 3rd down receptions and keep the chains moving.

I think with Marshall and Jeffery, Devon will get some chances on lessor cornerbacks for a few go route TDs this year.


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I like this one. After a month in Bourbonnais, he won't be fat.


I dunno, there is a buffalo wild wings right off the bourbonnais exit off 57.

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 Post subject: Re: Alshon Jeffery
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The guy was not fat at 240lbs. Hes a big guy. Almost a TE frame that apparently bulks up easily. He would have certainly added some padding, but fat players don't jump around like that.

That was the rub. Some scouts thought about bulking him up and turning him into a speedier and more athletic Greg Olsen after his senior year. Previous to his senior year, scouts liked him more than other SEC standouts like Julio Jones, etc. Id love to see him in a speed camp to increase his separation.

And his hands are massive! No wonder the one-hand catches are so prevalent.

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The guy was not fat at 240lbs. Hes a big guy. Almost a TE frame that apparently bulks up easily. He would have certainly added some padding, but fat players don't jump around like that.

That was the rub. Some scouts thought about bulking him up and turning him into a speedier and more athletic Greg Olsen after his senior year. Previous to his senior year, scouts liked him more than other SEC standouts like Julio Jones, etc. Id love to see him in a speed camp to increase his separation.

And his hands are massive!

He was at 216 for the combine so he lost weight...but there were some preseason pics last year and he was fat.

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 Post subject: Re: Alshon Jeffery
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I saw the pics, to me that is a little padding, nothing crazy. And he played at 230 according to him.

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Jeffery said he weighed “like 230″ pounds last year at South Carolina, and noted that was the heaviest weight at which he’s played.

“I think that was too heavy for me,” he said. “When I get to the NFL, I have to make a better transition. I think 215, somewhere around there is better for me.”

Now that he’s proven that he isn’t fat, Jeffery has to show he isn’t slow. A good 40-yard dash should cement his first-round status. A bad one could doom him. He said he’s practiced running the 40, but hasn’t looked at his time. Jeffery hopes he can run in the 4.5 or 4.4 range.

Jeffery’s happy to have lost the weight, as he said the whole pre-draft process has taught him better eating habits. His favorite food is lasagna, but these days, he just drinks a lot of water. The whole time that people have been wondering whether he’d have a stock-killing weigh-in, he was exercising and eating right. Is he mad that people had the wrong idea of him?

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I like the Jeffery pick a lot. The Bears haven't had a big WR who can go across the middle & go up & actually battle a DB for the ball in forever. He's not a burner, but either was TO. I'll be shocked if this kid isn't a starting WR for the Bears this year. Watch some of the You Tube clips of this kid. He catches everything & is a great jumper & battler.
Now the Bears need to draft a couple of OL.

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He is also a Spurrier WR FWIW.

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He is also a Spurrier WR FWIW.


What is that worth?

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He is also a Spurrier WR FWIW.


What is that worth?

I remember a hell of alot of them being "good" in college and being nothing in the league. I can't remember a single one that was an impact NFL guy.

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He is also a Spurrier WR FWIW.


What is that worth?

I remember a hell of alot of them being "good" in college and being nothing in the league. I can't remember a single one that was an impact NFL guy.


I doubt that Spurrier has a hex on his WR's.

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I'm glad they addressed WR. Whether it will pay of or not, of course nobody knows, but this team sorely needed one.


This.


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A guy who is 6'4" is not fat at 230. Megatron is listed at 6'5" and 240, what a fat ass.

Guys UMN is going to shit on any thing the Bears do, that is just what he does. Stop walking into his deal.

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A guy who is 6'4" is not fat at 230. Megatron is listed at 6'5" and 240, what a fat ass.

Guys UMN is going to shit on any thing the Bears do, that is just what he does. Stop walking into his deal.

Are you seriously saying he looks like Calvin Johnson? I guess I must have influenced all the college football analysts and draft gurus in saying he was not in grate shape last year. I also said he lost all the weight at the combine and was down to 216. If you are honestly happy with this pick then that is great.

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Are you seriously saying he looks like Calvin Johnson?


Where did I say he looked like Calvin Johnson dipshit?

I said a guy that height is not fat at 230.

Basically any WR 6'4" or taller is over 220.

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Are you seriously saying he looks like Calvin Johnson?


Where did I say he looked like Calvin Johnson dipshit?

I said a guy that height is not fat at 230.

Basically any WR 6'4" or taller is over 220.


You are the one that brought up Johnson as your example.

Do you understand anything about body composition? Being tall does not mean you are absolved of being fat. I guarantee you that the body fat percentage of Calvin Johnson is far lower than that of Jeffery. The pre season picture says it all but its too big to post here.

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You are the one that brought up Johnson as your example.

Do you understand anything about body composition? Being tall does not mean you are absolved of being fat. I guarantee you that the body fat percentage of Calvin Johnson is far lower than that of Jeffery. The pre season picture says it all but its too big to post here.


What I understand the most is that no matter what the Bears do you are going to shit on it. That is your schtick around here regarding football.

So some scout says this dude is carrying a little extra weight and you jump on that to call him a fat WR that will never do anything.

And whoever the Bears take in the 4th you will look for whatever negative is stated about him and shit on that dude as well.

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You are the one that brought up Johnson as your example.

Do you understand anything about body composition? Being tall does not mean you are absolved of being fat. I guarantee you that the body fat percentage of Calvin Johnson is far lower than that of Jeffery. The pre season picture says it all but its too big to post here.


What I understand the most is that no matter what the Bears do you are going to shit on it. That is your schtick around here regarding football.

So some scout says this dude is carrying a little extra weight and you jump on that to call him a fat WR that will never do anything.

And whoever the Bears take in the 4th you will look for whatever negative is stated about him and shit on that dude as well.


If the Bears make a good pick then I would acknowledge it as such. You act as if I am the only one that thinks their picks have been questionable.

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A guy who is 6'4" is not fat at 230.


He's actually a hair under 6'3".

Also:

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That's some padding - not fat.

The actual draft comparison to Brandon Marshall is pretty close. This could easily be Jeffery minus the 40-time and the hands. Jeffery's YAC hasn't really been mentioned in scouting reports, but it is obviously there after watching video.

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Brandon Marshall has excellent size and has shown a willingness to catch passes going into traffic. Brandon can take the hard hit and hold onto the ball or he can reach out and pluck the ball away from his body. He has the ability to use his body to cut-off/shield defenders from ball and make tough catches. When Marshall goes up aggressively, he has shown the hands to catch the high pass easily. He has the natural size and strength to be a strong runner after the catch when he runs aggressively. Brandon Marshall and can drag tacklers for extra yards after intial contact. He was Central Florida's go-to-receiver and learned to use his hands and strength to fight through jams well.

Brandon Marshall despite his great 40-time, Marshall does not show quickness, speed or explosiveness in routes. He has enough speed but in terms of quickness to the ball he struggles to get separation in routes because his routes. Not a great route runner, his routes are not sharp and he runs very upright. He does not have the playing speed to stretch the field and get separation on deep routes. Brandon Marshall does not have natural hands and he tends to allow easy passes into his body, fights the ball, and drops some passes he should catch.


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[Jeffery] uses his size, good strength and a very effective jab step to quickly gain clearance against press corners. Doesn't possess elite straight-line speed, but can lull defenders asleep with his long-strides and sneak behind the coverage for the long ball.

Hands: Possesses a rare combination of hand-eye coordination, body control and hand strength. Can make the circus grab look easy and already has compiled an impressive number of dazzling one-handed grabs (Alabama, Arkansas, Kentucky). Good flexibility to extend and pluck the ball high and wide, as well as behind him. Tracks the ball well over either shoulder. Does have a tendency to let passes get into his chest too often and will drop more balls than he should due to the fact that he's trying to elude defenders before he has the pass secured. This appears to be simply a concentration issue as Jeffery has already demonstrated the natural pass-catching skills usually reserved for Pro Bowl receivers.

Route running: If there is an area of concern for scouts, this would be it. Many of Jeffery's routes in South Carolina's offense are relatively simple quick screens, slants, crossers and fades. He does not possess the elite speed, which may allow NFL cornerbacks to squat on underneath routes. He runs with good balance and is a developing route-runner, but isn't always capable of shaking off cornerbacks to gain real separation due to the fact that he lacks true explosiveness out of his cuts. When he is asked to run double moves, Jeffery often rounds off his cuts, gaining freedom more due to a series of shoulder fakes and adjusting his speeds, rather than exploding out of his breaks. To Jeffery's credit, his size and body control make him open even when he is effectively covered. He understands how to position himself in front of the defender and is remarkably effective in plucking the ball out of the air in jump-ball situations even when pitted against some of the top cornerbacks in the country (Alabama, Florida).

After the catch: A nightmare for most collegiate cornerbacks to handle once he gets the ball in his hands. While perhaps lacking in top-end speed, Jeffery has good acceleration for a receiver of his size and can expose cracks in the defense because of it. He has above average elusiveness when in the open field, as well. Where he'll make his money in the NFL, however, is because of his strength and balance. Jeffery often spins by, runs through or simply bounces his way out of prospective tackles and fights for additional yardage. He possesses a stiff arm that some running backs could take pointers from. At times when doing so, however, he allows the ball outside of his frame, exposing it for defenders to rip away from him (Florida State).

Blocking: A bit inconsistent in this area. Uses his size and strength to shield off defenders, helping his teammates with some big plays. Considering his physical tools, however, he isn't (yet) the dominator in this regard that he someday could be...

Intangibles: Originally committed to a different USC -- Southern California -- out of high school before switching back to his local Gamecocks. Was a key member of a Calhoun County high school basketball team that won four consecutive state titles.

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He's got his warts, but the presence of Jeffery and Marshall are gonna open up all kinds of room for Hester and Bennett.

This is going to be the best guy from this Bears draft class imho. (The jury will be out on the tweener for a few years, whereas I expect instant production from Jeffrey). Darryl Drake will have fun with Marshall and Jeffrey. lol....

A fifth round pick isn't jack dick either btw - a complete roll of the dice. Better to be aggressive and go up and get your guy vs. watch him get snagged by somebody else. TJ Yates and Denarious Moore got drafted in the 5th last year. The Bears drafted Nathan fucking Enderle. lol...

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