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There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

Strikeouts are important because lots of things can happen on batted balls. For example, they can sneak under Kevin Orie's glove.

But what is rarely discussed are the long-term effects of high strikeout pitchers, i.e. they generally throw a lot of pitches. The days of Tom Seaver and Juan Marichal throwing 150 pitches to complete a twelve or fourteen K game are pretty much over. There is a lot of discussion about the reasons behind this, but just from observation, my guess would be the changes in wind-ups. Pitchers really don't wind up these days. What we call a wind-up now for most guys was similar to pitching from the stretch for guys in the 50s and 60s.

I tell ya Stoney, man who threw the hardest out of the stretch that I ever faced? Sam McDowell

:lol: This is stupid.


Pitcher A goes out and gives up one hit, has one HPB, and gets the W by pitching a complete game shutout.

Pitcher B goes out and gives up no hits, no walks, no HPB, and gets the W by pitching a complete game shutout.

The question; did Pitcher A or Pitcher B have the better game?
The only correct answer is Pitcher B.

/thread

I am not a legal expert, how many times do I have to say it?

I am not a legal expert, how many times do I have to say it?

I'll take something that has only been done 3 times over something that has been done 21 times.

3 is more rare than 21.

My stats win.

:lol: This is stupid.


Pitcher A goes out and gives up one hit, has one HPB, and gets the W by pitching a complete game shutout.

Pitcher B goes out and gives up no hits, no walks, no HPB, and gets the W by pitching a complete game shutout.

The question; did Pitcher A or Pitcher B have the better game?
The only correct answer is Pitcher B.

/thread

Its obviously not as black and white as you make it seem.

Bill James considers it the greatest game ever pitched, but maybe you know more about Baseball than him.


This pretty much renders that whole Buerhle vs Wood discussion useless.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

Strikeouts are important because lots of things can happen on batted balls. For example, they can sneak under Kevin Orie's glove.

Because it is black and white; 2 base runners to none. And even if you say Orie had an error, Wood still plunked a guy, so it would be 1 base runner to none. 1- 0, black and white. That's just the way I feel about it.

I am not a legal expert, how many times do I have to say it?

Because it is black and white; 2 base runners to none. And even if you say Orie had an error, Wood still plunked a guy, so it would be 1 base runner to none. 1- 0, black and white. That's just the way I feel about it.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

Do you believe that maybe I was baiting you and others from that thread with that comment?

That's fair.

The White Sox have one of the greatest wins in MLB history! Only three games has ever gone 25+ innings and the White Sox won one!

There have been more than three game 7 World Series wins!

I'll take something that has only been done 3 times over something that has been done a lot of times.

I think it's expected based on their approach and differences in arm strength and velocity that Buerhle would pitch to contact more, thus be more likely to have pitches hit hard.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

And would also be more likely to give up hits, but don't tell trickybeck, DB, or Roger that.

Bad analogy

One rare occurance is due to very few people having the talent to do it.

The other is a rare occurance because very few offenses are bad enough to go scoreless that many innings.



By your logic, being the only 50/50 guy ever wouldnt matter because there has also been only one guy to 5 errors in one inning and thats not good.

I take it, you think every pitching shutout in history is better than every pitched game that the pitcher gave up one run, then as well?

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

Im pretty hammered right now.

This is quite possibly the most csfmb-ey argument in the history of the csfmb. Which is saying a lot.

I am not a legal expert, how many times do I have to say it?

Do you always have to stick your nose into everything?

Do you always have to stick your nose into everything?

Well if you throw a complete game shutout, you cannot get the loss.

I have seen nothing from you that allows me to think you consider it possible that a perfect game was better than what Wood did.

It wasn't an analogy.

It was pointing out that the fact that something has happened less than another thing doesn't mean the thing that happened less is better.

No I do not agree. I attribute his disappointing career (compared to what it might have been, but still a decent career) to injuries. I would name Corey Patterson as the most disappointing player. He had all the tools to be an exceptional player. But he saw himself as a 30/30 type guy and tried to hard to pull the ball and hit homers, rather than spraying the ball all over the field and using his speed more. He would be my choice hands down.

I don't like white rappers.

Patterson was certainly a disappointment as he was overhyped coming through the minors. Wood on the other hand was put up there with Prior as the next Schilling and Johnson starting tandem. Wood actually showed his potential with how sick his pitching was. Patterson never really showed any domination. I guess it depends on how you measure disappointment.

Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.