Supposedly the season has already been filmed, and Colton looked way too fat to have been on there.

Plus, why? He only seemed strategic because he left without getting voted out. He led one of the dumbest moves in Survivor history by giving up team immunity. I don't need another season with someone that dumb.

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Ahhhh, not too many balck guys on Survivor. They should do a season of only balck guys.

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They did that once and it was also one of the worst seasons in history. Think the winner was named Earl. Good player, total lack of drama.

Blacks typically suck at Survivor. There are some exceptions, but overall they have been less than impressive on the show. That one chick who I think won or did well recently, heavy chick, she was very good. But, on the flipside you have Vecepia, the worst winner in the history of the game. As for the guys, other than Earl, I have a hard time remembering any black men who didn't suck on this show.

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I doubt the season was already filmed. Usually the fall season films over the summer. Its the winter/spring season that films prior to the previou season's finale air date.


Colton brought a lot of drama and was responsible for spearheaded several of the votes, those traits alone make him worth watching. Never said he wasn't an idiot, but at least he tried to play the game and made a lot of hateful comments as well.

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How about a Polish one?

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oh ok, thanks for the link. Good to know I was right in terms of what is the usal SOP for Survivor. Interesting to see that Probst is trying to move into the daytime talk circle. I think if he leaves the show is done. I don't see how you can replace him, he's like the Michael Jordan of reality show hosts.

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What is interesting is that they are doing two right in a row. I bet that it's an all-star or "battle of the champions". I bet they want to do a battle of the champions but obviously they had to get enough seasons in to get another 16 people who could do it.

I can't even imagine what it would be like to have Survivor without Probst. The best they could probably do is get Rob or another former player.

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Here is a question for you guys, do you think the show would be better if everyone understood the game completely or would it be better if no one had even seen the show? Right now, we are getting too much of a mix. When we have smart players, the dumb ones become fodder and we get subjected to a string of wasted episodes. The only time we had a cast of players who had never seen the show was the first season and they were all run over by the one guy who had a clue how to play the game.

So, what if they had a season where you had to be a Survivor expert to be in the cast. The casting process involved questions about strategy as opposed to questions about what's the wildest thing you ever did in college. Would the game be better or would it become too technical?


On the flipside, what if they lied to the applicants and made them believe they were applying for a different show. Then, instead of going to an island for some bachelor type rip off they dropped them off on the survivor set and turned them loose. What type of game would we get then?

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I think a cast that is all skilled and knowledgeable is better. The more "talent" the more interesting.

Would you rather watch a basketball game with 5 pros and 5 people who don't know much about the game or 10 pros?

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Rob is the name that immediately came to mind for me as well. He'd do fine, but does he have the same sharp wit that Probst has during tribal councils? Rob is no idiot, but I doubt he could question people with surgical precisioin like Probst does.


I'm torn on the whole all star idea. I don't like seasons where people already know each other going in. YOu have secret alliances as well as preconceived impressions of other cast mates. Great players from other seasons are automatically at a disadvantage because they come in with huge targets on their backs.

Plus in all stars you inevitably get some people who don't really care to be there and are just mailing it in. Bringing in a whole cast of prior winners might take away the hunger to win for some while others might want to win even more just so they can say they are the best of the best.

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yeah I agree. I think my point is that it has to be one or the other. If I had to watch a bball game my first choice would be to watch 10 pros play. But, if my second choice was to watch 5 pros and 5 people who sucked or watch 10 people who sucked I'd take the latter since at least then you would have an even playing field.

So it has to be one or the other, but they have to get away from bringing in a cast where half the people are just fodder waiting to either be voted off or dragged through the entire game as a voting pawn by the people who know how to play.

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I forget the circumstances of Russell's evacuation, but I believe he had a heart problem at one of the challenges and collapsed. He was kind of the leader of the purple tribe in Samoa and many believe they wouldn't have necessarily blown up after the merge at the hands of Russell Hantz if he was still around.

Penner was a New York actor on the white tribe on Cook Islands. He gave very strategy-centric confessionals and would argue with Probst during challenges (like here for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHd-Q9dJkpw). On Cook Islands, he stole chickens from another tribe at the start of the game, ran the Aitu tribe with Yul after the shuffle, mutinied with Candice to his own detriment, and then handed the game to Yul by turning on his alliance with the other white players at the merge after they didn't believe that Yul had the idol. On Fans vs Favorites, he failed to persuade Cirie to his and Yau Man's side and was in the minority of the Favorites early. After the tribal shuffle though, it looked like he may have formed better bonds with a few of the Fans than Parvati and could have taken control had his tribe ever had to vote someone out or had he lasted to the merge. He was taken out though due to a knee infection.

they ought to go back to the simple days, no island, no idol.....

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and the reward at the challenge was a single piece of pizza.

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They need to do something to break up the strings of episodes where nothing surprising happens. Like every other season, there were easily five to six episodes that were a waste of time as you knew who would be eliminated if the women won or the men won or in the individual challenges, it was basically down to the point they would eliminate one of two people and if one of them one the immunity, then no biggie, they will vote him off the week following. And then they try to edit the episode to create this artificial drama that never materializes in the vote -- maybe 5% of the time, if that?

I'd love to see some random junk thrown in like a giant wheel that has each survivor's name on it and they spin it as the first thing at the vote off meetings. And they can change what it means each time -- so maybe one time it is for switching tribes -- they spin the wheel and instantly one of the players switches teams and doesn't have a vote, or someone else instantly joins the team as a swing vote (maybe they get immunity when they join for that round?) Maybe they could even do it for bribes -- your name comes up, and if you switch teams, you'll get 10k to take home no matter what. Or you get a pizza to take to your new tribe, or something like that. I'd like to see them switch up the team dynamics a bit. I guess once you get to the individual game though, this may not work as well.

How about for the individual game, you get ping pong balls towards something. So the challenge could have one guy earning 10 ping pong balls, the second guy earning seven, the third gets 5, etc. and at the vote off whoever's ping pong ball comes up gets immunity, but you don't know it until then. Or you keep the immunity the same, and whoever's ping pong ball comes up gets to cast two votes, but the players don't know who it is unless they are told when they are at the voting station.

There's a lot of ways to breathe life in the show, but I think at the same time they don't want to stray too far from the proven path.

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All you're doing with those suggestions is taking a game that already is has too much luck involved in it and basically turning it into a full on lottery.


No wonder CSFMB Survivor fell to pieces 2 seasons in.

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I thought it fell to pieces because I didn't know how to cast it correctly?

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I gave up after quite a few weeks and only caught a few mins of the show from there. They keep having these boring as shit seasons where nobody wants to make a move and just will let people walk into the finals without at least trying to make a major move. I'll watch next season for sure but if Colton is on again, it will be a one and done for me. I can't stand watching him.

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ONe change they should consider is gettig rid of the prize money for the runner ups. $100,000 (the rumored prize for 2nd) is a helluva consolation prize and can lead to people being happy to just make it to the final 2 or 3. Make it an all or nothing prize and it should result in more intense gameplay towards the end.

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