Dont remind me of that. Any bad move he made was because he had to compete with the Yankees. Yeahh.... that's the ticket.

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Hey, why don't you cool it with attitude and the name calling and the capslock.

Yeah because there are GMs out there who have no bad contracts in their history.

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Are we gonna get the Hawk and Kaner show for a third straight fucking day? Move on Bernstein. Everyone knows you're argument is never wrong, and hearing Terry just repeating it is wearing my ass out.

Then Bernsie says that some people want to argue the otherside "just because". Coming from him, that's ironic. Pot meet kettle.

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Yet for how many years did B&B look at Mac knowing he had a problem?

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Elections have consequences.

guy just dropped a bullshit

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Of course, they all have. But, if this isn't the worst contract in baseball today, then it's certainly in the team photo, right alongside Carl Crawford's deal. It is tough for me to call him the smartest guy on the block, with two colossal failures like that on his resume.

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He sure did. I love the internet feed.

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It's very much like Elmhurst Steve accusing people (myself, Brick, etc.) of "only seeing what they want, to further their agenda". Everyone of his arguments is like that.

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**ATTN - bigfan*****

turn off your radio

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Boy, if Steve Stone says "we" or "Paulie" one more time, I'm going to think he's a plumber from Steger. Geez.

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followed up by Carl Crawford for 142 over 7

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It was to block the Yankees.




It is my only defense.

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Interesting that you let those two deals sway your opinion. Never mind the moves made that culminated in two world series wins.

So I take it the whole Swisher/ Gio Gonzalez situation eliminates Kenny in your estimation right? Cause that was probably more damaging than either Theo deal.

Im not so sure about that.

Hope you're right. Afraid you're not. At least not right now.

A Toti Fields reference from Boers. Congratulations Terry, you are now eligible to work as a comedian on a cruise ship.

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You could make an argument that the informational advantage which helped him direct a team to 2 world series has been evened out much like what we have seen with Beane. If he is the smartest guy on the block he will be able to adjust. He has not thus far. I really don't expect that he will either based on his later career in Boston.

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Interesting that you let those two deals sway your opinion. Never mind the moves made that culminated in two world series wins.

So I take it the whole Swisher/ Gio Gonzalez situation eliminates Kenny in your estimation right? Cause that was probably more damaging than either Theo deal.[/quote]

KW has lost considerable esteem among Sox fans since 2006. Gio Gonzalez was not nearly as blatantly bad as Hudson. But those are trades, which are a different animal than FA signing.

He stepped into one world series win. The second was due in large part to taking advantage of other teams not being able to overspend in the draft.

There are many holes in the Theo, Boy Genius story.

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I feel icky when Dan talks about money donations. Anyone else?

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Don't ever yell at him again. I'm warning you. Do not yell at that man. Not on my watch.

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I'm not trashing Theo, I'm just disputing Bernsie's proclamation of smartest guy on the block, simply because he says so. I think he is a very good GM. He drafted Pedroia, Ellsbury, Buchholz, Bard, etc. That post was more a commentary on Bersnie's over the top love of Theo, than Theo. This is the B&B section, not the Cub section.

I never said that Kenny was the best GM around. He has made some very good deals, and some very poor ones. What does Kenny have to with Theo? Didn't you just criticize me for this? Something along the lines of me not being able to articulate my position without taking a shot at the other side.

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Incorrect. His first two acquisitions were a big part of the 04 team


And the 07 WS was due more to the trade with the Marlins that netted Beckett and Lowell combined with prudent drafting.

Im not taking a shot at the other side, but your original comment read like you didnt think much of Theo because of 2 FA signings. I think Williams is another GM with success but some obvious mistakes.

The lesson learned from both is that neither should be deified to the point that you put scrutiny on hold and simply rely on their decision making because they won a WS.

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But one of them won 2 and had his team in the playoffs


And I dont know why people dont credit him for 04. They were a good team but he also signed Schilling, Ortiz (when he was a NOBODY), and Millar

Pretty sure those guys helped out in the 04 title run

I think he did a great job drafting in Boston. It really can't be disputed. However, those signings were huge mistakes, and they count when you grade his overall job. Boston is in a bad spot now, because of that bad paper. Just look at your local heroes, and how hampered they have been because of bad paper. Hendry's stink is still on this team. It takes two or three great drafts just to fix those mistakes.

With the changes in the new CBA, and the fact that the Cubs just can't spend like the Red Sox (NESN is a cash cow), things will be more difficult for the object of Bernstein's affection. We will see if he is or isn't the smartest guy.

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Wow. Terry and Dan seem to be oblivious to the amount of suffering going on in this country since late 2008. They hold the unemployed with total contempt and don't realize how bad the job market is, even for college graduates. Many at that station are similiar to celebrities or musicians in that they attained a higher income by entering a small job market (sports media) that serves millions. But in they're minds, they're deserving while everyone else is lazy.

Fair enough

I think people are over selling how much over spending on the draft was part of Theo's plan

He made the right picks.

Im not sure Boston is in a bad spot because of those deals.


Anyway, Theo's job is not to over spend on players. Its to find the any advantage he can. He has a history of doing that (SABR, Drafting, International Scouting)

I hope/expect he'll continue to be ahead of the curve

"If Englewood is so bad, why don't people just move somewhere else?"

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Dammit! I missed the good stuff! How I am supposed to let the acid and vitriol boil over?

Gimmie da' gist and what time was it at?