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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:32 pm 
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The black pilot thing is totally unrealistic.


Ever since Norman Lear had All in the Family,Hollywood has loved putting balk actors in roles of authority to make up for the fact there are no big roles for most balk actors. I just heard that the young lady on SCANDAL is the first Black Lead of a dramatic TV show in over 30 years.

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He's a B grade actor that makes B grade movies....Whoopee!


Denzel's great movies just off the top of my head

American Gangster
Manchurian Candidate
John Q
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Remember the Titans
The Hurricane
Crimson Tide
Philadelphia
Glory
Malcolm X


Man on Fire needs to be on your list.


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Happens way to often with the some of the same people around here...

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 2:57 pm 
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It usually happens when the gimmick posters step out of their comfort zones as it were.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:00 pm 
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The turning point for Denzel washington may have been when he turned down the role of Jim Morrison in Oliver Stones epic biography "The Doors." The role eventually went to Val Kilmer, making him the star he is today.

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Well, this thread took a turn for the worse.
Good going, Pasta/Panther. :roll:

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Well, this thread took a turn for the worse.
Good going, Pasta/Panther. :roll:


What...I'm wrong???? You guys are just ignorant of facts. How many movies have you seen where the major stars are white and they throw in a token black in some kind of a "power" role as a police captain,Judge,etc.
Outside of Will Smith or Sam Jackson (to a lesser extent),most black actors are handed secondary or supporting parts. Heck,I think things have gotten worse since Sidney Poitier had many lead roles in serious movies. It doesn't matter to me what color the lead is,but most people making movies disagree.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:27 pm 
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You're pretty much confirming some feelings I have about you. It's fine for you to have any opinion you want. Just like it's fine for me to have mine...

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That's because all those balcks are getting tattoos, raping ery'body and playing in dat NBA instead of taking acting classes with Lee Straberg, amirite, JimmyP?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:30 pm 
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You're pretty much confirming some feelings I have about you. It's fine for you to have any opinion you want. Just like it's fine for me to have mine...


I just don't follow. I guess anytime a white guy dares to say anything about race,he's a racist. All I have said is I believe Hollywood is run by those who prefer white people as lead actors. I think it's wrong,so I just don't get it.

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Chappelle is as real as it gets.

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Chappelle is as real as it gets.


Maybe he is,but where the hell is he today?

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No. I just believe that when a person says a bunch of racist shit, you can assume they at least have a few racist thoughts or tendancies.

Who are you to say a black actor is "handed" a role of power like a police officer of whatever? Is it that ridiculous for you to believe that they could possibly have earned it? I know there aren't any actual black cops, judges, mayors, bosses or anything else like that out there, so maybe I see your point. :roll:

Just own it. You want to be Archie Bunker or whatever your schtick is around here, then expect that some may see you as a racist or a person who has some racist thoughts he's willing to share...

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Chappelle is as real as it gets.


Maybe he is,but where the hell is he today?

Doing what he loves...standup comedy. If he's okay with not being a "star" good for him. It's not for everybody. At least he recognized that and got the fuck out of there. I don't blame him. Hollywood is kinda twisted.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 08, 2012 3:39 pm 
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I wan't talking to you, so I really don't give a fuck what you think. Sorry. No offense. Talking to jimmy...

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Krazy Ivan wrote:
No. I just believe that when a person says a bunch of racist shit, you can assume they at least have a few racist thoughts or tendancies.

Who are you to say a black actor is "handed" a role of power like a police officer of whatever? Is it that ridiculous for you to believe that they could possibly have earned it? I know there aren't any actual black cops, judges, mayors, bosses or anything else like that out there, so maybe I see your point. :roll:

Just own it. You want to be Archie Bunker or whatever your schtick is around here, then expect that some may see you as a racist or a person who has some racist thoughts he's willing to share...


Nothing wrong with that except it is usually done for the wrong reasons. That is what I'm saying. It's the Hollywood mogul not giving a black actor a major starring role so they give them the smaller role of an authority figure. That is what I'm trying to say. If that makes me a racist to you, I don't know what I could do to change that.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Chappelle is as real as it gets.


I have all the respect in the world for Dave Chappelle. He walked away from millions of dollars for peace of mind. There aren't a lot of Hollywood types with his integrity.

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The point is to assume that something is just "given to" or "handed out" is ridiculous. You don;t know if that's true. This isn't the first time you've said something like that either.

Believe me, it isn't unique to you. I've heard it before. A lot. There are people who have no problem assuming that one is jsut "given" something they don't deserve based on their race.

If that's not what you're saying, my bad. But that's very much the way it comes across...

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I wan't talking to you, so I really don't give a fuck what you think. Sorry. No offense. Talking to jimmy...

I know, but there are also plenty of WHITE actors and actresses that are obviously and blatantly OWNED by Hollywood, and who only play a certain part.

I already gave you Pacino. There are thousands more.

It is a commentary and an insult to THE INDUSTRY.. .. Okay, and maybe the stupid people who get hyped up about the shit that the Industry is feeding them ... like Tough Guy Denzel.


None of that has anything to do with what I was talking to jimmy about, panther.

I get what you're saying, but I wasn't making an argument one way or another about "THE INDUSTRY" owning someone...

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I don't think that's what Jimmy was trying to say, but I can understand how it could be taken that way. His original point wasn't clearly stated.

I get what Jimmy's saying though.

I think it's just a misunderstanding.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
I don't think that's what Jimmy was trying to say, but I can understand how it could be taken that way. His original point wasn't clearly stated.

I get what Jimmy's trying to say.

I think it's just a misunderstanding.


I agree. I thought jimmy was trying to say that the playing field wasn't balanced and actors were getting secondary roles rather than the featured roles that they deserved.

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Krazy Ivan wrote:
The point is to assume that something is just "given to" or "handed out" is ridiculous. You don;t know if that's true. This isn't the first time you've said something like that either.

Believe me, it isn't unique to you. I've heard it before. A lot. There are people who have no problem assuming that one is jsut "given" something they don't deserve based on their race.

If that's not what you're saying, my bad. But that's very much the way it comes across...

In 10,000 posts,I know I have said a lot of stuff. 90% of it is BS. OKC labeled me a gimmick poster,yet he has started a lot of "gimmick" posts himself.
I in no way intended to insult anyone,but Hollywood is an imorral shithole.
I was pointing out racism not condoning it.

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Please forgive my ignorance in the matter, then.

I'm all juiced up on ice cream and Kit Kats... :(

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Please forgive my ignorance in the matter, then.

I'm all juiced up on ice cream and Kit Kats... :(


It's OK,I just had a Diet Dew and a bag of Fritos.

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I thought I was the gimmick poster


Is being bad a gimmick?

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...stole my joke. :(

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