I'm just gonna go ahead and start off by saying this is a visually stunning film. Similar in a way to "Avatar", see this in 3D and just be amazed by the visuals and the atmosphere. The opening sequences are hypnotic, strange, gruesome, but fascinating.

then people start to talk.

the dialog's pretty brutal. i really, really wish that these sci-fi exploration movies weren't full of the same garden variety standard cliches. the inexplicably angry and touchy geologist who looks like a cyberpunk for some reason; the arrogant bastard (who curiously is the main character's husband and goes from being somewhat likeable to total doucher in a very short period of time); the sarcastic guy (who usually wears glasses); and of course...the black guy. actually, he's the captain, and he turns out to be one the better ones. then you have the ice princess played by charlize theron.

and...the ferengi-named noomi rapace whom i already am unimpressed with (especially since she bitches about having to audition). she couldn't hold a candle to ripley, although she does have one of the most...unbelievable...scenes in film history. this one really gives the original "chestbursting" scene in "alien" a run for its money.

the android, played by michael fassbender, was also a strong character...but why is every android in ridley scott's universe that isn't named bishop a snooty asshole? the guy's clearly anti-android. and there's really no reason for him to be somewhat villainous in the way that the original android in "alien" was.

so...scott has tried to play this off as "not really an 'alien' prequel" but he is really kidding himself. there are so many parallels...including the very last scene which is a dead giveaway.

the movie delivers visually, and it does make a good monster movie. it's somewhat clumsily paced in the third act, though, and when you think it should end it goes a little bit farther.

i just wish they'd give the characters more personality rather than just your average collection of stock soon-to-be-victims. and, i was kinda hoping there'd be a little more philosophy in it.

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You are too kind W_Z. Ahoy! Spoilers Ahead!!




























I think this movie was really awful. And I was so hyped into seeing this. Running a close 2nd to Dark Knight Rises on my movies of the year list. Which for some reason is giving me the fleeting sensation that it will underwhelm too. Specially after my #3 movie GI Joe 2(Yes I very much enjoy the first one) was moved to March of next year which means it must of gotten horrendous first/test screenings and had to be redone.

Let me start with the worst part. Our girl Noomi has the monster taken out of her by the surgery machine and stumbles upon Old Man Weyland in a side room. I heart Guy Pearces' acting and really liked the viral TED speech his character gave. So dissapoint no Young Weyland in the film. Sad face. OMW gives her the "shake it off champ" speech, which was clouded at best.

#2. Stringer Bell knows damn better than to leave the bridge empty when you have two of your men riding out the storm in the cave/ship. She is a hot white girl, but tell a friend "I'mma be tappin' that" and get him to watch the ship. And no followup as they cut to Our Girl Noomi and her fella waking together.

More to follow... I hate myself for wanting to like this flick so much.

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well, far be it from me to surgically remove your distaste from this film, don...(hahaha says the audience)...

i see where you're coming from...especially the young guy pearce. but i do think that was done on purpose. evolution is at the heart of this film, with its very very VERY small understanding of philosophy...and take a look at how little can change in so many decades of supposed growth.

yes...hard as it is to believe...there is a little depth to this story. even with damon "i'll dismantle one of the best TV shows of all time myself" lindelof at the co-helm of this script project.

that being said, how can you not admire the look of this film? now i realize that doesn't inherently give a movie a pass but this movie was absolutely jaw dropping at times with its ability. i think that credit has to be due.

scott may be a bit autumn in his years but he can still get the job done, i think.

and...as i said...as a monster movie...is this really that awful comparatively?

I just wasn't feeling the scope of the film. Also, Going from intro(which was great), to flashback, to the scrambled get everybody on the ship thing. It just felt like something was missing from this film. Maybe there is another 45 of film on the cutting room floor that will make the directors cut. Longtime Ridley Scott guy, just didn't feel the need to watch it again to see what I missed. The evil robot, If I hadn't read up on so much of the movie, would of felt completely lost. No pun intended...

There were plot points implied and not fleshed out. The two sci-idiots that get whacked first was just dumb, but knew that somebody had to die first. Why did the space jockey want to go and take the ship to Earth anyways??? I read some other reviews that was getting pretty outlandish on the philosophical scale. What did happen to the SJ's in the holograms? What was up with the holograms? Couldn't they have what they were running from?? Ahhhgggg...

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Really looking forward to seeing this Monday (hopefully)...took everything I had to not go see it yesterday.

well, certainly there were plot holes...the damn thing was co-written by damon lindelof...can we expect anything less from this hack?

as a monster movie, though...it does work for me. that's why i said i had a level of disappointment if this were meant to be *more* than that...which maybe it was trying to be but it didn't quite get there.





















*SPOILER*

Ultimately, the humanoid race that created us was a curious one. they wanted to explore, and earth was another planet that was inviting because it had an atmosphere. luckily they waited till after our ice age i guess...and it's comforting to know that in the year 2094 we still have an atmosphere. the line from david about destroying something in order to create something else, is probably the closest this movie gets to having a point. the thing i didn't like is that they never gave us a reason *why* any of these guys wanted to destroy anything. the whole idea of civilization is building, not destroying. destroying comes from greed. so what made this race greedy? what was their drive? and where...oh...where...were the females?

but see, when you start getting into that...you're diving too much into it. the movie is a thriller overall and in that regard i thought it did its job quite well.

Lindeloff has been brought in to rewrite World War Z.

So that'll suck.

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wz, i'd like to hear your thoughts on the movie after reading this (long read but i thought very interesting):

http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html

Some of this makes alot of sense, some of it is reaching...


I'm in the same boat as you: visually awesome film. Acting was overall bland and uninspired. As a monster movie= enjoyable. As a sci-fi philosophical epic that it tried to be = poor.

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The Promethea, a giant silk moth, is one of my favorites. Not many people realize that we have moths this large that live around here. Add to that the Cecropia and the more rare Luna moths and you have quite something.





Oh, sorry, this thread was about Prometheus, never mind.

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fixed.

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rewrite? I thought it was already done filming???

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Supposedly doing reshoots starting in the fall.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/damon-lindelof-world-war-z-prometheus-brad-pitt-335241

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The title of this film led me to believe it would be about a search for the origins of man and perhaps some shocking discovery for our creation. That belief appears to be untrue reading these reviews. Sounds like the movie is more "Ancient Aliens" than "2001: A Space Odyssey."

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Interesting take on it. The movie has seen very mixed reviews, from awesome to bad and in-between. Reading many of the reviews it was pretty apparent that a lot of people expected many different things from Prometheus and that weighed heavily on the reviews. I'm still going to see it but I guess the bar was lowered a bit.

I've also heard on the internet(!) that the theatrical release has plenty of footage cut from it, especially from the middle portion of the movie. Not surprising and I'd be interested in seeing it as a directors cut down the road. Plus on the magic internet I read somewhere (Can't remember) that this is the first of 3 movies or something like that like. Again, random stuff but who knows.

It seems that a lot was cut from the movie.


http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/24147/-prometheus-disc-has-30-mins-more

thanks for the link, but i'm not reading all of that...i read the first few paragraphs. once i got to "space jesus" i checked out.

what i think is more interesting is that the xenomorphs are possibly evolving from other species. i don't like the idea that it's all just some kind of mass creationism. i don't think that works. i do think there's something to what he said about the opening sequence. it is about exploration, self-sacrifice...but the engineers seem to have a muddled relationship when it comes to us.

the fact is, the script doesn't give us enough evidence to really explore something that deep. it's vague enough to allow people like that guy to come up with psuedointellectual ideas that really don't have a lot of actual depth or meaning. and again, the characters could've been used better.

There was a decent amount of stuff cut from the final movie plus I have a feeling there will be more movies...at least it's been talked about or rumored or whatnot. I haven't seen the movie yet, will do that in the next day or two but I'm hopeful that I will enjoy it. I some reviews would be more positive if there wasn't a staggered release of the film.

Enjoyed the hell out of this...excellent presentation and I found all the creatures to be very well done...even if one of them looked like a catfish the first time I saw it.

Doesn't hurt that trailers for Skyfall, Dark Knight Rises and a six minute preview of Spiderman were attached to the IMAX version. Will be going back again.

Nothing in this film makes any sense, and the characters are stupid and erratic. That's kinda a problem for a film. It did look great, however.

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A Personal Relationship with Jesus?

I'll start out by saying I appreciate Noomi Rapace shaving her armpits for this role (and letting the name Lisabeth follow her).

I have no problem suspending disbelief for sci fi. I accept that everything in fantasy cannot be explained within a two hour movie. However, I expect that my human characters act naturally. When you fly across the universe and set down on a alien planet, I would expect the characters to be filled with as much wonder as I am watching them set down. Instead, everyone acted like they just landed in teh Arizona desert and were looking to explore. Shaw cries when at the beauty of a cave painting but landing on a planet is mundane. The geologist should have been soiling himself from the moment he stepped out of the ship. Then, of course, they finally meet an alien and neither human nor engineer is astonished by its find.

Visually stunning. I loved the look from start to finish.

The story has so much opportunity to be bigger than it is but simply settles as a summer blockbuster monster movie. I would be ashamed of myself as a writer to be given the opportunity and a blank slate to explore philosophical themes only to have produced this work. This could have gone in so many directions but went nowhere.

I give it 2.5 flippers for the look and the monsters.

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The robot was really disappointment to me. He is effectively asking the same questions the humans are asking and is treated to some flippant response on the ship. However, he certainly would have had all of these discussions with his father beforehand.

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Interesting take by the guy. It seems a bit forced. When I see the mural I see a guy giving the heisman to both the snake form of the alien, the tentacled form and then the humanoid form. I would have said the Space Jesus theory was outlandish if it hadn't come from Ridley Scott himself. I did, however, also feel there was an analogy to the mount of olives before jesus arrest when the engineer drinks the cup.

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This about sums it up: http://youtu.be/-x1YuvUQFJ0

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Meh.

No.

Why are the white aliens tall and jacked while we are small fat asses. Why are the engineers white but the evil alien offspring black. Why is a woman who just had lower abdominal surgery able to run around while it took pussy Chris Bosh weeks to come back from a strain? Why is a woman who had lower abdominal surgery on her reproductive organs not have still have white undergarments

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I mean, yeah, I mean, like, why is there a plot with stuff, places, more than 2 people...I mean that's a lot of names. And what's up with that story that we have to follow? There some stuff in it and I had to pay attention....that's just dumb. And why is there a rocket ship and what's up with that guy that does that stuff? Ugh, so confusing!

I want my four minutes back.

What a defense of the innumerable plot holes!

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A Personal Relationship with Jesus?

Use your brain, what else can a man say.

The movie isn't a masterpiece nor perfectly written but the story is there for you, just pay attention.