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In Part 3 of my sit down with Bret Hart, we discuss how it was Bret's idea for Goldberg to give him a concussion, that Bret actually fathered all of the kids instead of Stu, and about how he invented chocolate cake.

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WWE Turning New Corner Without Austin

Posted by Mike Mooneyham on June 15, 2002

Steve Austin
By Mike Mooneyham
June 15, 2002
Steve Austin has retreated to Texas, The Rock’s in movies, and the rest of the WWE crew is coming apart at the seams.
The increasingly bleak situation may be too daunting a task for even Ric Flair to handle – not that he wasn’t asked.
The 53-year-old Flair, who had been building heat for weeks as the top heel on the Raw roster, was forced to suddenly shift gears and turn babyface on last week’s show for a main-event bout with Vince McMahon over total control of the company.
The match-up, though, made little sense in light of Flair’s storyline feud with Austin, who defeated him the previous week on Raw to set up a scenario in which Flair would have to be the Texas Rattlesnake’s “servant.” After dropping cage matches to Austin on consecutive nights during Raw’s weekend house show swing, Flair was asked to “do the honors” once again Monday night, but this time to the 56-year-old McMahon.

How many losses will Flair have to endure before the increasingly inept writing team figures out that’s not the way to put heat on one of its major characters? Like in WCW, Flair has had to put over everyone and everything except the proverbial kitchen sink, and in this case there’s no WCW to blame. And, as in WCW, Flair has at times delivered extraordinary interviews, even against the backdrop of the annoying “What?” chants that have only served to disrupt the quality of WWE promos over the past six months. Nobody seems to be listening anyway.
The WWE’s woes, however, extend far beyond the mishandling of Flair’s character. The Austin situation portends an even deeper problem within the ranks of the company.
The WWE officially announced on Thursday that Austin was no longer an active member of its talent roster. Its Web site noted that Austin had failed to appear at the June 10 Raw in Atlanta, “instead choosing to return home to San Antonio without notice and without company approval.” The story also mentioned Austin taking a “two-week hiatus” after Wrestlemania, which the story claims he also did without permission.
“Although Steve was unhappy with his character’s creative direction, Steve made the personal and unprofessional decision not to report to work to address his concerns,” said the Web site. “Therefore, Stone Cold Steve Austin is no longer an active member of WWE’s talent roster.”
Austin’s second defection in the past three months was the result of growing frustration over what he considered sub-par writing and lame storylines. One proposed angle in particular – a match with “Next Big Thing” Brock Lesnar last Monday night on Raw – prompted him to walk out that afternoon and book a flight back to Texas, forcing McMahon and the creative staff to rework the show at virtually the last minute.
Austin, though, isn’t the only one who has become increasingly critical of the company’s creative direction, which in recent weeks has focused on overdone and stale “evil owner” storylines and shock-inducing toilet humor. Even Vince McMahon admitted in a recent interview that the company was in a state of flux and may have fallen into a “comfort zone” with the success of the late ‘90s.
While Austin’s recent antics have caused friction in the back among workers who believe that lesser talent would have been fired on the spot for walking out, there’s no argument that hot-shoting an Austin-Lesnar match on free TV doesn’t make good business sense, not to mention the fact that Lesnar simply has not yet gone through enough quality opponents to justify such a bout.
The flip side is that not only did it leave McMahon and the writing staff in the lurch, it disappointed thousands of Atlanta fans who paid good money to see the WWE’s top draw. With the roster already diluted as a result of the heretofore failed “brand extension,” having Austin bail out at the last minute certainly did nothing to curry favor with the company’s paying audience.
One of Austin’s best friends, Jim Ross, on Friday expressed his feelings concerning the situation by saying, “Walking off the job and ending his career with this company at his own hand is damn hard to swallow and I still do not fully understand why this method of protest was selected by one of the fiercest competitors in the business’ history.” Ross also wrote on the WWE’s Web site that the company needed more “positive people” who cared more about the company than “their own careers and fragile egos.”
“As the head of our Talent Relations department, if I am unable to accomplish this goal, maybe it is time for old J.R. to head back to Oklahoma and go fishing,” Ross said in closing. “However, I will not walk away from this task at hand without a fight and when I leave I will give my notice in person.”
One thing’s for certain – the WWE needs to regroup and rebuild. A change is not going to happen overnight; it may not come for months and possibly even longer. Signing Bill Goldberg isn’t the answer, either. The WWE has botched one moneymaking angle after another over the past year, and until it effects some major changes from within, there is no guarantee that it won’t botch another.
- The Rock, who was scheduled to work his first match in months at a WWE show Saturday night in Honolulu, received considerable mainstream publicity during his weekend swing in Hawaii. The Rock, who attended a Samoan ceremony there, will play Hawaii’s legendary King Kamehameha in an upcoming movie.
“I’m proud to announce – I just got the call from my agent today – Sony Pictures has purchased the rights and will be in development for myself to play King Kamehameha in a movie based on his life,” The Rock told a gathering of friends and members of the press last week.
According to the Honolulu Advertiser, it is believed to be the first film exclusively on Hawaii’s king who united the islands and ruled from 1795 to 1819. The Rock said the film would be shot in Hawaii, as will another of his upcoming action-comedy productions, “Helldorado,” with filming on the latter scheduled to begin in late August or early September.
The WWE’s Honolulu show sold out in only two hours.


- For all of the Jarretts’ talk about wrestling tradition and commitment to producing hard-working young talent, within a one-week period they signed Rick Steiner, Scott Hall, Buff Bagwell and Brian Christopher to short-term contracts, a sure sign that the fledgling company has not learned from history.
While they also signed a number of valets to enhance the “TNA” part of the company name (the first event will feature a lingerie battle royal including Francine, Bobcat and Electra, although that match will not air until the second week on pay-per-view), the nostalgic “NWA” contingent will be represented by former world champions Dory Funk Jr., Harley Race and Ricky Steamboat.
Not surprisingly, advance ticket sales for the group’s inaugural show Wednesday night in Huntsville, Ala., have been sluggish (less than five hundred tickets had been sold a week before the show), which means that the promotion will probably have to give away more tickets than they sell in order to make the building look respectable for its debut. NWA-TNA launched a major ticket giveaway when it recently announced that everyone who showed up at the Huntsville Speedway this weekend would get complimentary tickets to the pay-per-view.
NASCAR Winston Cup points leader Sterling Marlin, who is also scheduled to appear on the PPV, told the Huntsville Times on Friday: “I’m not going to get in there and hit anybody in the head. I think I’m just supposed to present the belt to the pile-driving winner or something. Huntsville is close to the house, so they asked me if I’d come.”
The Nashville-based company also announced that it will run live weekly every Wednesday night starting on July 3 at the Nashville Municipal Auditorium. Ticket prices have been dropped to $10 for every show starting with the Nashville card.
Other names signed (at least for the first event) include Ken Shamrock, Konnan, Steve Corino, Norman Smiley, Vampire Warrior, Devon Storm, K-Krush, Gran Apollo, Lenny and Lodi (who will be managed by Joel Gertner), Ron and Don Harris, Christian York and Joey Matthews. “Minister” James Mitchell, formerly known as The Sinister Minister in ECW, James Vandenberg in WCW and Daryl Van Horn in Smoky Mountain Wrestling, also has joined the roster.
- Diamond Dallas Page (Page Falkenberg) announced last week that he is retiring from wrestling. DDP, 46, made the decision after meeting with Vince McMahon prior to Tuesday night’s Smackdown taping in Greenville. Page had been advised by some doctors to not return to wrestling due to neck problems, with his doctor in Atlanta warning him that one bad bump could snap his spinal cord and cause him to become paraplegic. Corrective surgery would have required a lengthy rehabilitation process.
Page suffered the neck injury during an April match against Bob Holly. An MRI taken shortly after the injury occurred revealed that Page has degenerative discs and bone spurs.
- Shawn Michaels, one of pro wrestling’s top workers of the ‘90s, is expected to gradually work his way back into the ring, although it’s not a given at this point. A serious back injury took Michaels out of the business several years ago, at which time he said he’d never come back unless he could perform at 100 percent.
The time off apparently has benefited Michaels, who recently attributed his youthful look to his newfound faith.
“To be perfectly honest, that’s bringing the Lord into my life,” Michaels told the WWE Web site. “That is why I look so happy. That is why I look healthier than I’ve ever looked. I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior, and it has completely changed my life. It has given me a new life, a new energy, a new perspective on everything, which is what he does. It was the first time ever that I ever walked into that dressing room and never worried about if anybody liked me or not. And it felt the most comfortable since I’ve ever been in there. I saw Kevin (Nash) and Kid (X-Pac). I had spoken with Kevin about it. I wanted him to know that before I came back – for him to know that things were not going to be the same exactly for me. There would be no going out and doing this, or doing that. I’m not going to use profanity. Those things just aren’t a part of my life anymore.”
The new NWO, however, is minus founding member Scott Hall. “I pray for him,” said Michaels. “I miss him. I have made myself available to him, to do anything for him that I can. We all think about him. Me, Sean (Waltman) and Kevin were talking about him the other night. It’s a shame that he couldn’t be a part of this with us. But we’re all still friends. I’m thinking about packing up after the next show and going to see him in Florida, if he’ll let me in.”

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^ That's terrible, terrible news..

The Extreme Rising promotion that runs 6/29 in Corona, NY, and 6/30 in Philadelphia, sent out a release saying that theywould
not be using Raven on the next shows, apparently in response to rumors that theywere. Regarding Sabu, they said that at their
urging, Sabu went into a rehab center on the West Coast in May. They said Sabu was very apologetic and is in regular contact
with both Shane Douglas and CodyMichaels, who are running the show. They said he asked for another chance after an
apparent overdose that hospitalized him the afternoon before the first show. They said if he completes the program and if his
doctor okays it, they are open to using him in the future. They said he is not scheduled for the next set of shows, but it is
possible he could be added.

Paul Guay, who wrote the movie “Liar, Liar,” is currentlyworking on the screenplay for the Bruno Sammartino movie and told us
that the movie will be completely different from anywrestling movie there has ever been.

Julie Hart, the ex-wife of Bret Hart, best known for her appearance in the movie “Wrestling with Shadows,” has signed a deal for
an autobiography, tentatively titled “Hart Strings.” She had been working on-and-off on the book for at least a decade, long
before Bret’s book came out.

A new member of the Wild Samoan wrestling family is Tamiko Fatu, the son of Rikishi, who lives in San Bruno, CA and is 18 or
19 years old and looks just like his father facially. He’s been training at Rikishi’s wrestling school in Simi Valley, CA.
The new ECWPress book called “Shooters: the Toughest Men in Professional Wrestling,” byMMAwriter Jonathan Snowden
has just been released. It goes back to Gotch-Hackenschmidt, through the 20s and the Lou Thesz/Gagne/Hodge era, Billy
Robinson, through Japan to Inoki-Ali, the formation of the UWF, UWFI, Pancrase, Brock Lesnar and more.

Lisa Moretti (Ivory) did an interview on the RingBelles web site. Regarding coaching Tough Enough, she said she was against
Linda Miles winning season two. She said she always brought it up when theywould sit down and decide who got cut. She
said she thought Miles had great charisma, but she had an ego problem. She even said that she (Moretti) would shoot herself
in the foot so she would have an injury, that’s how bad she wouldn’t want to share a locker room with Miles. Miles was a starter
on the Rutgers basketball team, which was a strong program. She did not do well in OVW, to say the least, but still got brought
up and there were times when the agents would want her to come early for more training since theywere using her as a
manager (Shaniqua) but ultimatelywanted her wrestling. And she’d no-show the training. She ended up not lasting very long.
She also said she was asked out on a date byRicky Steamboat at Cauliflower Alley in Las Vegas in March, but there was a
reunion of the GLOWgirls at the same time and they asked her out for lunch, so she stood up Steamboat to hang out with the
girls. She said after she was thinking, “Oh man, did In just blow it?” She called StacyCarter, one of the women on the roster in
the late 90s, “a poison.” She said that she used her Jerry Lawler card to get in, then snuck her way into an angle as China’s
Mini Me. And then she even got the women’s title. Moretti didn’t finish the story, as when Carter was fired, Lawler quit the
company in support of his wife. The company kept wanting Lawler back, and every time a deal was almost made, Lawler would
bring up Carter and when they said theywanted him and not her, Lawler would turn down the offers. She ended up leaving him,
which is what opened the door to his returning.

Former WWF announcer Sean Mooneywas hired as the weekend co-anchor at KVOA, the NBC affiliate in Tucson. He had been
working running his own production company in Tucson and had worked with Fox Sports Arizona after leaving the Northeast. He
had worked as an anchorman in New York and Boston after leaving WWF.

Regarding Ricky Steamboat’s speech at Cauliflower Alley, when he said how Verne Gagne got him hooked up with Stampede
Wrestling after his run in Florida was over, and he was told by a referee in Stampede Wrestling not to come up because he’d be
driving 3,000 miles to get there and nobodywas making anymoney, Ross Hart said that makes no sense. He said there’s no
way Steamboat would have been in contact with Stampede referees, because they used local people in each town they ran and
those local people didn’t even have contact with any of the wrestlers outside of the territory.

Davey Richards, 29, did an interview with Inside Wrestling where he said he was going to retire sometime in 2013. He said
something would have to go verywrong in his life if he was still wrestling in 2014. It’s notable because I can’t ever recall anyone
who worked as hard as he did and was as good as he is ever retiring so young. Granted, the time he came along in didn’t allow
him to make huge money at it (although in other eras his height would have worked against him but he’d have had a solid well
paying gig in Japan from the mid-80s until a decade ago, and actually did have at least a gig there now that just fell apart). It is
generally figured he’s done in Japan after he no-showed the 5/3 PPV show and a jr. tag team title defense, and they found out
he was doing indies that weekend in the U.S., and then pulled from the Top of the Super Junior tournament. But that’s going to
be a big loss to ROH since Richards has been pushed as the company’s top guy until the return of Kevin Steen.

The other McMahon no longer in the company, Shane, got publicity. YOU, the company he is the CEO of that is attempting to
introduce PPV to China, is now listed on the NASDAQ exchange. They even rang the bell at the start of trading this past week.
McMahon has reached deals with several Hollywood studios to bring PPVmovies, and obviously leading to PPV sports, to
China. But it’s not going to be easy.We’ve spoken to Americans who have worked in business in China, including Mark
Fischer, who headed NBA operations in that country and now works for UFC, and he didn’t believe PPVwould work in China
because people are used to seeing everything free. Other I know familiar with that market say that while the market looks
awesome because of the sheer number of people, it is so hard to do business there and get money out. McMahon’s company
lost $4.8 million over the last quarter, and things must be tough financially since McMahon on 5/10 loaned the company $3
million. Still, movie studios are scared because the movie business was down 5.4% in U.S. attendance and they are looking for
ways to recoup that money overseas. The idea is that as China gets a working middle class with disposable income, they’ll be
willing to pay a few bucks for movie PPVs and eventuallymore than a few bucks for sports. Others have noted the burgeoning
working class in China is more a media myth than reality, and that most of the country is still very poor. The problem is pirated
movies are easily accessible in China for almost nothing. If this venture works, the upside is gigantic.

Paul Levesque (HHH) is now listed as the Executive Vice President of Talent Relations. instead of Laurinaitis. It’s a change
formalizing what has been the case for a while, since Laurinaitis has worked under Levesque, and Levesque has hired new
people like Canyon Cemen, the former Stanford volleyball star, and Jane Geddes, who worked in the office with the LPGA and
was a former star golfer. Geddes is Vice President of Talent Relations and is doing a lot of the work Laurinaitis had been doing.
Cemen is running Talent Development and reporting to HHH. Laurinaitis has little or nothing to do with that department, and it
was Laurinaitis who put together the FCWprogram. Laurinaitis has had many of his duties of late reduced and the expectation
is his job will be changed in some form down the line as Levesque puts his own hires in key positions. He’s still booking the
house shows, although the writers are more involved in that as there is a movement to make the house shows more like the
television shows. He’s also doing talent payroll but spending more time going on the road as talent.

Del Rio is out of action due to what was described as a severe concussion suffered on the 6/5 Smackdown tapings when
Sheamus threw him into the WWE insignia on the stage.

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When it comes to developmental, there is a lot of concern about what is happening since Tom Prichard was let go with no
explanation to those there. Those in FCWwere told that developmental is changing, for the better, with a different structure, and
a different schedule. The idea is verymuch to structure the entire developmental process and talent relations like WWE is a
major sports company, which is ironic since this is all HHH’s department, and Vince runs away from the sports comparisons.
They are also looking at trying to open up a relationship with the U.S. Olympic committee, to where they’ll have an “in” for
prospective Olympic athletes who either don’t quite make the team, or better yet those who do well but are in sports where there
are no professional leagues. The feeling is they’d be interested in the wrestlers, of course, as well as possible weight men,
whether they be shot putters, discus throwers or Olympic lifters. Historically, there aren’t a lot of shot putters I can recall who
became wrestling stars, with Jim Neidhart and Ken Patera, who were national place winners coming to mind. I can’t recall a
world class discus guy, although both Fritz & Kerry Von Erich were stars in the discus at the college level. A number of
weightlifters over the years have done well in wrestling, Patera having the most success of the Olympic level guys.
This past week they brought in 23 to 25 athletes, some independent wrestlers with several years experience, but mostly
successful college wrestlers, most of who were graduating this year, recruited byGerald Brisco. The wrestlers, who in some
cases still have class time left to graduate, were told if they are signed that the companywould value them more if they
continued and finished their studies this year or finished their degree work as opposed to quitting and starting in
developmental right away. They did a lot of focus on basics like running the ropes and flat back bumps and did lots of agility drill
and cardio training to see their coordination, conditioning and drive, who mentallywasn’t going to quit and who stood out in the
pack. Bill DeMott and Regal were running the camp and evaluations were being done by Terry Taylor, DustyRhodes, Steve
Keirn, Norman Smiley, Jim Ross, Brisco, Ricky Steamboat and JoeyMercury. From there, the ones who got the best
evaluations are likely to be signed byCanyon Cemen.

There is at least talk of doing similar style tryouts in foreign countries, such as the U.K. and Australia.

The best talent in FCW(Dean Ambrose, Seth Rollins, Kassius Ohno, Antonio Cesaro) as far as being ready and being good in
the ring mostly came from the indie scene. But there is a belief that the indie scene is not producing enough talent with WWE
potential. That belief and obviouslyHHH putting together his management team, instead of using ex-wrestlers or people in the
business, but using people who were top notch athletes in other sports who went on to have management experience in
sports, tells you his direction. It’s a mentality that a lot have questioned. A number of people have asked how can Canyon
Cemen, who may be intelligent, professional and a top level legit athlete, but has never worked in the industry, be able to
evaluate talent and make talent decisions. And the feel for understanding wrestling is something that takes years, and even
with years, most people, even intelligent, have a hard time grasping it, particularly since what Vince wants constantly changes
and what the company needs and what gets over with the public also changes. They are going with the idea that getting top
level athletes and teaching them to be wrestlers will develop the kind of marquee guys that can be superstars, and if you look at
the biggest money stars historically in the business, in a high percentage of cases that would be correct. Even guys like Austin
and Rock, while not NFL caliber football players, were top level athletes suited for the business. It’s a harder process because
the success rate will be lower if you get guys starting from scratch. The argument is thatWWE can offer a decent pay to start for
guys coming out of college in a tough job market, with the potential to earn huge money. The wrestlers, unlike top level college
football players who have NFL aspirations, don’t have a sport alternative other than UFC, and UFC is not for everyone. But the
indie guys love the business and understand the business and a good looking college wrestler with a good body, even if they
grew up a fan, they are starting at such a lower level of understanding the crazyworld. Plus, the current product mix and lifestyle
is such that a lot of guys doing well today do not have “the look” and are more guys who grew up loving and being obsessed
with wrestling and wouldn’t let the detractors and naysayers get in their way, got experience the hard way, learned the business
from others and made it because they could outwork, outperform and outtalk guys with genetic and athletic advantages that
didn’t have the knowledge of a lifetime following the game and the same obsession to make it.While DeMott had been around
with the company since Tough Enough ended, there were a lot of surprises he became head trainer only because he was let
go from the position years ago due to complaints about him being too rough. DeMott’s feelings at the time was the guys weren’t
in good enough shape and the complaints theywere doing tons of cardio but not enough in the ring, and that only a small
percentage of the active roster at the time could have survived what DeMott was putting them through. Then again, at first, when
his name was on Tough Enough some were surprised for the same reason. The reports we’ve gotten is DeMott has tweaked
his coaching style a bit and learned a lot since his last tenure. I just figured for Tough Enough theywanted that big bad ass
intimidating coach as a TV personality and DeMott was very good at it on the old Tough Enough.

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Punk publicly on Twitter took issue with the 6/4 Raw, which was built around Cena vs. Cole with the idea they’d get Cole in his
underwear and humiliate him for ratings even though it wasn’t building future programs or the PPV. As noted, it was a reaction
to the bad rating the week before. You never know what will work, but historically the segments with “outsiders” doing matches
like Cole and Jim Ross have done well in the ratings, but this time it didn’t happen, although their segment did beat Punk’s
match with Kane. It was also in a better time slot to draw a quarter. Punk wrote, “You a wrestling fan or a ratings fan? I’ll take
coss over seg telling a good story over covering a non-wrestler with condiments any day.” The problem is coming off a show
that does bad ratings, Vince’s decisions are going to be ratings oriented primarily. The thing is, the minute I saw the direction of
the show around Cena vs. Cole, I understood what it was about, but also disagreed. There are times to adjust due to a bad
direction, and that rating was bad, but it was also a night with a lot of competition. But doing a Cena vs. Cole hotshot TV show
that doesn’t build anything in theorywould help the rating for the one show, but built nothing. It’s building something that’s the
answer. It really felt like WCWdecision making on the way down, and that’s the stuff you should learn not to do.

R-Truth is out of action with a broken foot. In storyline on Raw, they brought him out for an interview on 6/11 and Show knocked
him out. The decision seemed to be it was more important for Show to destroy Kingston, going for revenge later in the show, in
a match to build the PPV then do something to take the tag titles off them. Given the current value of the tag titles, it was the right
call for the week.

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Nice try Vince. You can't shut me down. :wink:

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