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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:37 am 
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Colvin's stats: .291/7/19/.323/.564/.887 in 117 AB's in 46 games.

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Stewart: .201/5/17/.292/.225/.627 in 179 AB's in 55 games.

I always liked Colvin and felt Quade screwed him by not playing him last year. Looks like he is re-establishing himself as a hitter whereas Stewart is seemingly on his way out of the league.


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Colvin's stats: .291/7/19/.323/.564/.887 in 117 AB's in 46 games.

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Stewart: .201/5/17/.292/.225/.627 in 179 AB's in 55 games.

I always liked Colvin and felt Quade screwed him by not playing him last year. Looks like he is re-establishing himself as a hitter whereas Stewart is seemingly on his way out of the league.



Colvin is only okay. I'm fine with the trade. It didn't work out for the Cubs, but having Colvin in the OF is not that big of a deal.


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Eh. The trade helped both Colvin and the Cubs. Colvin was not going to be part of the future of this team. He needed a new start somewhere. The Cubs needed a short term option at 3B.

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He did flash some legit power.


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I liked Colvin. This is a bad trade, imo.


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#Cubs Ian Stewart to see specialist re wrist. May have nerve damage

Wow. Sounds serious.


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It doesn't matter if Theo made any bad moves because the Cubs were going to be bad this year anyway. The only moves that matter are the ones he makes now. Now. Now? How about now? Maybe now?


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Didn't Colvin hit below .100 for a good chunk of last season? This trade makes no difference. Good for him for putting together a solid year so far. It probably wont last.

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It doesn't matter if Theo made any bad moves because the Cubs were going to be bad this year anyway. The only moves that matter are the ones he makes now. Now. Now? How about now? Maybe now?


You are such an ass. You are the same guy that was saying the Cubs should trade Colvin for a bag of balls if they could get it.

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And now you trade Ian Stewart for that bag of balls :P

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And now you trade Ian Stewart for that bag of balls :P


Bullshit. He is worth at least 2 bags of balls

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Traded a heap for another heap, thought the second heap might return to what it started as. didnt work.

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Keyser Soze wrote:
It doesn't matter if Theo made any bad moves because the Cubs were going to be bad this year anyway. The only moves that matter are the ones he makes now. Now. Now? How about now? Maybe now?


You are such an ass. You are the same guy that was saying the Cubs should trade Colvin for a bag of balls if they could get it.

:lol: @ "You are such an ass"

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I was actually the guy who said they needed to play Colvin more because they never gave him a real chance and I didn't like the trade but revisionist history is more fun so lets go with that.


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Keyser Soze wrote:
It doesn't matter if Theo made any bad moves because the Cubs were going to be bad this year anyway. The only moves that matter are the ones he makes now. Now. Now? How about now? Maybe now?

Every move matters. Some are less crippling. This one wont set the franchise back too much, but its still bad.


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I was actually the guy who said they needed to play Colvin more because they never gave him a real chance and I didn't like the trade but I am still an ass so lets go with that.

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There's a stat I thought I saw on the "MLB on FOX" broadcast about 2 weeks ago when the Cubs & Giants wore 1912 throwbacks. Ian Stewart got off to a fast start in Colorado. In his first 3 seasons with the Rockies, Stewart hit 36 homers from 2007-2009. Since 2010, Stewart has smacked only 23 homers, not only splitting time with the Rockies, but also for their Triple "A" affiliate in Colorado Springs before getting traded to the Cubs in the offseason. Needless to say, Stewart hasn't been the same ballplayer since.


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There's a stat I thought I saw on the "MLB on FOX" broadcast about 2 weeks ago when the Cubs & Giants wore 1912 throwbacks. Ian Stewart got off to a fast start in Colorado. In his first 3 seasons with the Rockies, Stewart hit 36 homers from 2007-2009. Since 2010, Stewart has smacked only 23 homers, not only splitting time with the Rockies, but also for their Triple "A" affiliate in Colorado Springs before getting traded to the Cubs in the offseason. Needless to say, Stewart hasn't been the same ballplayer since.

Perhaps his wrist issues are to blame


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SHARK wrote:
There's a stat I thought I saw on the "MLB on FOX" broadcast about 2 weeks ago when the Cubs & Giants wore 1912 throwbacks. Ian Stewart got off to a fast start in Colorado. In his first 3 seasons with the Rockies, Stewart hit 36 homers from 2007-2009. Since 2010, Stewart has smacked only 23 homers, not only splitting time with the Rockies, but also for their Triple "A" affiliate in Colorado Springs before getting traded to the Cubs in the offseason. Needless to say, Stewart hasn't been the same ballplayer since.

Perhaps his wrist issues are to blame

I know he's now on the DL, but it might be more than that. He wasn't good that last year or two in Colorado.


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SHARK wrote:
There's a stat I thought I saw on the "MLB on FOX" broadcast about 2 weeks ago when the Cubs & Giants wore 1912 throwbacks. Ian Stewart got off to a fast start in Colorado. In his first 3 seasons with the Rockies, Stewart hit 36 homers from 2007-2009. Since 2010, Stewart has smacked only 23 homers, not only splitting time with the Rockies, but also for their Triple "A" affiliate in Colorado Springs before getting traded to the Cubs in the offseason. Needless to say, Stewart hasn't been the same ballplayer since.

Perhaps his wrist issues are to blame

Can Helton use that excuse too?

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I think Ian Stewart will be out of baseball real soon whereas I see Colvin being around for awhile.

In a useless year like this, it would have been nice to give Colvin 500 AB's with the Cubs.

Oh well.

Bad trade.

They better not fuck up Dempster and/or Garza.


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Basically, DeJesus took the spot Colvin would have been in. If you like Colvin better than DeJesus, the trade was a mistake. I think it's fairly inconsequential. Even if they deal Soriano (not likely, but possible) it would just mean having a spot for LaHair to go to when Rizzo is promoted. I would rather see Colvin hitting than Stewart though. Stewart has been awful.

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Ian Stewart is epically awful. Colvin is the better ballplayer. Trading decent players for worse players is a bad strategy. Let me just keep holding my breath until they bring up Josh Vitters in 2020

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Phil McCracken wrote:
Ian Stewart is epically awful. Colvin is the better ballplayer. Trading decent players for worse players is a bad strategy. Let me just keep holding my breath until they bring up Josh Vitters in 2020



Tyler Colvin was worse last year than Stewart has been this year.


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Big Chicagoan wrote:
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Ian Stewart is epically awful. Colvin is the better ballplayer. Trading decent players for worse players is a bad strategy. Let me just keep holding my breath until they bring up Josh Vitters in 2020



Tyler Colvin was worse last year than Stewart has been this year.

Wrong. Tyler Colvin was recovering from almost getting impaled to death and a 4th outfielder Stewart is not a starting 3b in this league and is a bigger rally killer than Soriano. Colvin is meh. Stewart blows.

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Ian Stewart is epically awful. Colvin is the better ballplayer. Trading decent players for worse players is a bad strategy. Let me just keep holding my breath until they bring up Josh Vitters in 2020



Tyler Colvin was worse last year than Stewart has been this year.

Wrong. Tyler Colvin was recovering from almost getting impaled to death and a 4th outfielder Stewart is not a starting 3b in this league and is a bigger rally killer than Soriano. Colvin is meh. Stewart blows.


Colvin sucked last year. Big time. Probably the worst stats of all players in the league last year.

I'm not saying Stewart is good, because he's not. But Colvin is nothing more than Blake Dewitt in the OF. Not to mention that Stewart put up two straight years of really solid numbers at 3B before he was injured last year. The trade was clearly reasonable for both teams. Unfortunately for the Cubs, Stewart's wrist injury has still lingered and he has not returned to form. Colvin is playing okay for the Rockies, but not good enough for anyone to care.


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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Colvin sucked last year. Big time. Probably the worst stats of all players in the league last year.

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Tyler Colvin has 3 hits a HR-5 RBI's and it's only the 4th inning. He's also hitting over 300 (season)...Guess that didn't work out for Theo


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Tyler Colvin has 3 hits a HR-5 RBI's and it's only the 4th inning. He's also hitting over 300 (season)...Guess that didn't work out for Theo


He is a 4th OF for the Rockies. Not an everyday player.


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