Come on now, you don't really have all those guys ahead of Mullin? At the very least he has to be around the Worthy spot on that list

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You really reached for those last 4.

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Richmond and Dumars isn't a stretch in 1991. Dumars especially.

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Neither put up Chris Mullin numbers. I think its pretty clear that RPB either only thinks about Mullin in the twilight of his career, or just hates white guys with crew cuts.

Dumars averaged 20pts, 5asst, 2reb in 91.
Richmond averaged 23, 4, 5.
Mullin averaged 25, 5, 4.


Richmond wasn't nearly as much of a stretch as I thought. Dumars was.

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There's not any debate over who had the better career between Isiah and Mullin, no one (including me) ever said there was.

There's also no debate that Bird was not talented enough to be on the team, but was selected because of his meaning to the game in general. Same with Magic to a lessor extent. Isiah has no such status. A great player, an all time great, but not someone in the running for the league's Mt. Rushmore in terms of what he meant to the game and the growth of the game at home and internationally.

And you are wrong, the idea was not to put the best team together based on the previous 4 years, it was to put the best team together based on the exact moment the team was formed (with the obvious two exceptions of Bird and Magic).

Under that criteria, Mullin, who was coming off a 2nd team all NBA season obviously qualifies. At the time the team was selected and even in the year following the selection and leading up to the actual games he was without a doubt a top 10 player and easily better than Isiah as I proved with the stat comparison.

As for your list of 10 players better than Mullin, I would put Mullin ahead of everyone on that list except Hakeen and possibly Kevin Johnson. And I don't think its even really debatable. The only one who even comes close stats wise is Dominique and his shooting percentage was far lower than Mullin's while averaging 2-3pts more.


Some of those names you have above Mullin are downright laughable. Petrovic? And you call me a moron?

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Makes me kinda sad that those Golden State teams didn't win anything. They were really talented. It's the Don Nelson effect. I've said this before, but if they had a real coach they would've been championship-caliber.

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You're right, I should have left off Mullin

Rodman and Petrovic are not reaches. Maybe Richmond.

RFDC the list is not in order. Hakeem would not be below KJ and Isiah


BC, if you are going to hold me to what I say so intently, I said he was a top 20 player in the NBA, not a top 20 player eligible for the team.


I always considered Mullin to be the one who would have been left off for Isiah.

I dont know why that's so crazy. The other 10 guys were better and Isiah would have to take someone's spot


Tom Chambers would have been a better fit. Better dunker.

Laettner is clearly the guy who should've been left off. Not really sure why they felt the need to include a college player. Just a complete waste of space.

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With every post you make in this thread you come off dumber and dumber.

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The only guy where an argument could be made for him to make the squad is Mitch Richmond.

Petrovic played for Croatia, so that wasn't happening.
Hakeem wasn't an American
Tom Chambers

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rpb going Campsing.

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I hate to say it, but this little gif adds some credence to Bernstein's words about Thunder fans.

So we agree, if it was the best players Isiah would have been there. Cool.



See that's where I disagree. I think Isiah was part of that ERA. If you're looking the late 80's-90's it was Magic, Bird, Michael, and Isiah as much as people might hate him.



Is that forumla written or spoken of somewhere? I always took Magic and Bird's inclusion to mean it was a "That era" group



I never made a statement about who was better in just that one year.


Well, I added those guys as a top 20. If I were doing it without arguing against the Chris Mullin fan club, Id have Mullin 14th or 15th. Depends how you view what Rodman did.


That was a shot at some of my fellow boardmembers who went crazy when I said Petrovic may not have been a legit hall of famer.

Yeah, well BC asked me which players in the NBA were better.

Pretty sure Hakeem was better, Douchebag

Assuming the college rule is in place and you are adding Isiah, who do you remove?

btw, it sure seems like Mullin was the weak link on the team...


12.9 – Chris Mullin’s scoring average, fourth highest on the Dream Team



5.3 – Karl Malone and Chris Mullin’s rebounding average, which led the Dream Team

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People are taking bits of what I say here out of context.

First people said I said 12 guys not on the dream team were better

Than that there were 20 players eligible for the team better


The only thing Ive said here is that If Isiah goes on, Mullin comes off.

Thats it.

Some of your reactions to the names are interesting. Richmond is underrated still today, I guess.

Chambers was my token white.

Which of the 11 NBAers would you take off for Isiah?

If they were picking a legends team based on who in the NBA had the best careers then yes, Isiah would've been on the team.

Isiah is no where near the class of Bird/Magic when it comes to what they mean for the game of basketball. Not even in the discussion.

If you honestly need to see a written formula to show you why Bird and Magic (to a lesser extent) were picked for the team, then you are even more clueless than I thought.

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After looking up numbers I said Richmond was better than I thought in 1991.

Not quite as good as Mullin though.

Larry Bird was the token white.

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Shakes, it's a sports debate. Why do you have to end every statement with an insult?

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I think that Chris Mullin definitely deserved to be named over Isaiah Rider.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

So Magic and Bird were special but the rest of the team was picked strictly on 91 stats? That doesnt make sense.

Like I said, Magic and Bird's inclusion signaled to me that it was a Dream team from that Era which Isiah clearly would have been on.

Ill ask you again, which one you would take off (We both know its Mullin)

Now, Now, I believe I called him a moron first.

Im just fighting him in his own style, all good

B and B would likely pick Rider

Have you listened to a word I've said?

The answer is simple...NONE.

HE. WASN'T. GOOD. ENOUGH. TO. MAKE. THE. TEAM.

The only person who didn't make the team who has a legit complaint is Kevin Johnson and the only player who would've come off for him is Magic. But, that was obviously never going to happen since Magic is a basketball god.

If you want to talk about who deserved to be there solely based on talent, then obviously Bird comes off and he's replaced by Dominique.

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No one.

He wasn't getting picked cause it was right after the Pistons walked off the court with 8 seconds left when the Bulls beat them.

He was viewed, rightfully so, as a giant peenus.

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