Kerry Wood doesn't have the talent to throw a perfect game, or are we to assume that he chose not to go 27/27 at some point in his career?

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Ok. Enjoy your simplicity

That's true

after 9 pages, apparently not...

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So, no one argues with me that Jake Peavy is one of the 15 greatest pitchers of all time?

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Big Z threw a no hitter, I think there have been 270 no hitters in the history of baseball. I do not consider Z's game one of the best 270 games ever pitched.

He threw against a team that just didnt give a shit.

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We are talking about perfect games here, bigfan. Pay attention to your before you get into the big boy discussions.

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Ill admit I wanna hear where this is going. He's 16th on my all time list. Why?

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Peavy is the 15th best redneck in Chicago



All this whole argument boils down to is how much you value pitcher strikeouts


Its ok that we disagree

Actually Frank I started the thread and it is just the greatest game ever pitched. Now if that needs to be a perfect game for you, that's fine.

Did you do a bench press today, thus feeling a little puffy chested? Was it one of those padded bars for the females?

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I believe the answer to the 2nd question is one (1).






I'm gonna need a dump truck to get al of my prizes home from Darkside's house.

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With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Threw a perfect game in a WS?

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No, struck out twenty batters. I see the second question now. My mistake. Clemens did get twenty too though, didn't he?

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

That sounds right. Maybe Randy Johnson too?

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So minimal that 60 (SIXTY!) pitchers have struck out 4 batters in an inning.

http://www.baseball-almanac.com/feats/feats19.shtml

60 times. And that is just for 4 strikeouts in an inning. Apparently drop third strike happens WAY more often than you thought.


Ironically enough, the last Chicago pitcher to do this was Kerry Wood in 2002 against the Dodgers.

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Greatest inning ever pitched.

Jake Peavy is 11th in strikeouts per 9 innings pitched. If the number of strikeouts in 9 innings indicates the "greatest game ever played" wouldn't the number of strikeouts per 9 innings indicate the "greatest career ever played".

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How many opposing pitchers did each guy strike out in doing so?

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I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

Are you kidding me?

You are saying that its occured 60 times over a period of 124 YEARS and you think thats significant?


So approximately 22,000 innings, it happened 60 times. Thats a percentage of 0.002.

I dont think, you are thinking these things thru anymore.

Thats one fatal flaw of GameScore.

Doesnt account for who the opponent is. (Wood's was an offensive powerhouse anyway)

I think more than 22,000 innings have been pitched in the history of baseball.

Im sorry, youre right. I grabbed the (way) wrong number.

Its actually about 2.7 million full innings.

So, yeah, pretty rare

BC was technically correct with his statement.

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It was a joke.

Please don't IMU another thread.

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It's 4 strikeouts in an inning. 3 strikeouts in an inning doesn't even happen every game. It just does to show that drop 3rd strike happens a lot more often than Bryan cares to admit.

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No, it does not. Not even close.

You apparently dont understand simple arithmetic.

Players reaching on a dropped third strike is extremely rare and does nothing to devalue strikeouts.


That you are aruging it is significant, is ridiculous.

I am going to put this in giant bold letters so that maybe you can read it or understand it this time round;

I AM NOT DEVALUING A STRIKEOUT
Nor am I trying to.

You said a strikeout eliminates all chance of a runner getting on base. I said it does not. Drop 3rd strike happens, and it happens way more often than you though. Happens apparently way more than I thought too.


Still, perfect game > a 20K game

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NO IT DOES NOT.

In 2010, it happened on .0004% of strikeouts.

Its absolutely miniscule and to be dismissed when judging the value of strikeouts.

I was talking about why Strikeouts are better and you piped in with a silly thought about dropped third strikes. When I explained to you how they dont happen enough to register, you kept digging in.


You just posted that something happened 60 times out of roughly 4 million chances and said "it happens more than we think"


If you thought it was less than .0004% of the time, why would you even bring up such a rarity?

Because you were trying to get me on semantics (Its not 100%, its 99.99999!!!!) or you were trying to devalue strikeouts.


Either way your position is silly.

Good day, sir