Doug, there's a pistol range in Bass Pro Shops at Gurnee.
$10/hr.

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Umm...yeah, I know.

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Here's an example, from today's Tribune editorial, of why gun ban laws are kind of stupid:



Let's say I am holding a Beretta 9mm P92 at your head. Today, that magazine holds 15 rounds. Now, lets say I take out 5 bullets and hold that gun to your head. Feel safer? Feel like that gun is less lethal?

Magazine capacity is a pointless law to invoke. I can change to a fresh magazine in about 2 seconds. If I carry 3 magazines of 10 or two of 15, it makes no difference in the lethality of this firearm.

I am not against keeping guns from people with a criminal history or mental problems. But this kind of law does not help at all. It doesn't do anything to keep people from becoming victims of crimes. This law is completely pointless, except to provide a way for lawmakers to pat themselves on the back, like they've accomplished something.

It's laws like this that give a bad name to "Gun Control". The GC movement should shun silly laws like this and get to the real issues at hand.

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Why ban magazines? I doubt many gun owners can read them anyway.

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Yeah, they're too busy protecting you in the Armed Forces.

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I agree with you, DS. I think its kinda dumb too. I guess they are trying to manage what types of firearms are sold... kinda similar to banning automatic weapons. I agree with that type of regulation. You certainly don't need these weapons to hunt... the only reason would be self defense, but that also has its potential problems.

I simply think that if the hoodlum on the street buys a big gun, then the law abiding citizen buys a bigger gun. And then the gangs by bigger guns, then the police gotta get howitzers. I just don't know when it stops. Is the end game mutually assured destruction? I'd hate to live in a society like that. I'm not sure what is the right answer is... limit personal freedoms or have gun paranoia? I can't help draw the comparison to nuclear weapons... essentially the same thing on a bigger scale. Am I being too simplistic? Perhaps.

Irish Boy loves Friedrich Hayek.

I bet I could post anything and no one would notice...

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For the love of all things holy Darkside, lighten the hell up.

I'll leave your precious little gun thread alone from now on.

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Relax Killa.
You called me illiterate, I called you ignorant.
It's tit for tat. Totally fair game.

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Boobies
Hee hee hee.

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So you are an official gun owner now? I'll stop trying to be funny in relation to your posts now, sir.

slowly backs away....


PS: You said "tit."

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A firearm should not be required to be essential for hunting for it to be legal. Lots of people say, you don't hunt with it so why do you need it? Well, hunting is a small portion of what I do with firearms. Do you need a full auto for self defense? No. not today. Maybe in the future.

Ah, the guns/bigger guns/even bigger guns debate. If that were true, why don't the cops need howitzers today? Why is this escalation in armament slated for the future and not a part of history already? The 1911 Colt has been available for nearly 100 years, and no cops really seem to need to upgrade past that.
"Big" guns do not hold any advantage over "small" guns. I used to use a 12 gauge for deer hunting, and have found the 20 gauge to be more than sufficient, easier to cart around and generally easier to maintain. Bigger is no more lethal than smaller. That is something you'll never hear from media types or the politicians. You will learn that should you familiarize yourself with firearms.

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Nice.

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We need a handbag thread.

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Now I think you need to do some talking to Chicago's finest and see what they think about being well armed versus their competition. Escalation is on their mind according to the 3 cops I know... all of who had beats on the Southside at one time. Chicago cops have to purchase their guns... and last I heard, their income was slightly less than many drug pushers (or at least the amount of money they are willing to commit to firearms vs. feeding their family).

Separately, I didn't mean to imply bigger is better, but rather a more deadlier weapon (e.g., automatic vs. semiautomatic).

What kind of guns do these cops want?
I'm all for providing arms to Police, I don't think they should have to buy their own service weapons.

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FYI

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/19/washington/19scotus.html?pagewanted=1&hp


Second Ammendment +1

Thanks Muddy. I've been following this case fairly closely. Yesterday's developements were encouraging. Hopefully, this will take some of the air out of Daley's balloon.

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Doug looks like a Coach man.

Nah, he's Prada all the way.

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Sorry Dep. It was just there, you know?

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This took longer than I expected, but I'm glad it's finally arrived at the Supreme Court.

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/2009 ... cases.html
The Supreme Court announced this morning it will hear a challenge to Chicago's gun restrictions that will determine if local handgun bans are legal.

Last year, the high court ruled the 2nd Amendment gave individuals the right to possess firearms and struck down Washington, D.C.'s gun bans.

Left open was the question of whether states and local governments are required to do the same.

By agreeing to take up the cases National Rifle Association vs. City of Chicago and McDonald vs. City of Chicago, the high court potentially could set in motion a nationwide re-establishment of the right to bear arms. Those two cases challenge several Chicago gun laws, including the city's ban on handguns.

In the high courts decision in June of last year, it ruled 5-4 for the first time that the 2nd Amendment establishes the right to own a handgun for personal self-defense, not only as part of a state militia.

Mayor Richard Daley immediately condemned the court's decision and vowed to fight any attempt to invalidate the city's now 27-year-old gun ban.

Hours after the court's decision, the Illinois State Rifle Association sued Chicago and Daley in an attempt to overturn the ban.

One of the plaintiffs is Otis McDonald, an elderly man who last year lived in the Morgan Park area and told the Chicago Tribune he keeps a shotgun at home to protect himself from gangs that plagued his neighborhood.

After the court ruled in the Washington, D.C., case, Morton Grove, Wilmette, Evanston and Winnetka dropped their gun bans, in large measure to fend off costly lawsuits.

There was another shooting @ NIU today.

Awesome . . .

Teaches thieves a lesson.

This has 305 views and I bet it will be at 305K soon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... NC2VwyaPU#!