By who?

People on other social networks. Not here.

Dont you think you need a little more than 3 post season appearances in 12 years?

Oh, Im not giving him this year's title yet.

That would be different. 4 for 13 with two titles is worlds different than 3 for 13 with one

Sox fans are the biggest homers. Any vaild critique is seen as HATING.

I know but all joking aside....Sox fans are waaaaaaay bigger homers than Cub fans.

Its not even close. Which is weird because people act like the opposite is true.

Kenny- Best GM in the league
Coop- Best pitching coach that ever lived
Homerun hitters in the steroid era- 100% clean without a doubt
1 title in 95 years= Elite Franchise

Cooper gets WAAAAY too much credit from Sox fans.
Kenny gets WAAAAY too much credit from Sox fans

Im told Kenny is the best GM in baseball

Who says that?
Answered in an ensuing post but a couple Score guys

Because making the post season 3 of 12 years is very good "considering the resources he has"

Many teams would kill for that.
Eh...not sure about that. Yeah, shitty teams would like it, but no GM would state that as a goal.

Not sure when people will understand the Sox have had a top payroll for most of KW's time here.

Who argues against that? Those numbers are easy to verify.
Well, they say Kenny has "limited resources"

Chus, those look like good trades right now....jury still out

Of course, but there is very little downside to any of them. I'm gonna go ahead and call the Youk deal a win. He is only owed about $2 million from the Sox for three and a half months.
Ok.


Also, they wanted Greinke and couldnt get him because they didnt have the prospects. Dont we have to count that one against Kenny?

So did several other teams. Only one could get him. I'm not about to make the claim that the Sox farm system is better than that of the Angels.
Right, I just think you cant ignore that. That has to go against Kenny.

Im not talking about you but it seems Kenny gets a lot of excuses made for him

He does from some people, but overall he gets more criticism than praise in this town. He swings and misses sometimes, but when he does make contact, the results are positive.

He's in a small market (Not really, top payroll)
No players come back to haunt him (Even though some are all stars)

Gio Gonzalez would look really good towing the rubber on the south side every five days.
Right

I actually had someone tell me Daniel Hudson being hurt right now means that wasnt a bad trade.

Horrible trade. I was against that from day one.

And that Chris Young ended up being Youkalis. (Nevermind the 5 years in between those moves. Definitely couldnt have used an athleteic All Star centerfielder)

I need more than an athlete in center field. Brian Anderson was a hell of an athlete.


I dont know man. I think Kenny is very good. But his supporters seem to insist he's the best and anyone who disagrees is a hater.

I don't hear that. He gets a lot of criticism, and much of it is deserved.

Also, they say well "Cashman and Theo had open checkbooks"

Theo did in Boston. Most teams can't give $224 million to Carl Crawford and John Lackey, and still be able to field a decent team. Denying that Boston and the Yankees have a competitive advantage isn't accurate.
Where does it end? The Phillies payroll has been higher than the Red Sox for a while. Im not saying that doesnt help. But if you're ranking GM's you cant just throw those guys to the side.

Ok, so you are disqualifying anyone with a bigger payroll? Then yeah, Kenny is the best. If you take away all the GM's that are better.

I'm not disqualifying anybody from anything. My point is that the White Sox are NOT the shittiest organization in baseball, and I don't think I am making a crazy statement.

Also, lets remember that Jim Hendry went to the playoffs three times in 9 years. And contrary to popular belief his payroll was LOWER than the White Sox for both 2007 and 2008

He gave out a lot of bad paper, ($90 mil for Z, he bid against himself for Soriano). The Cubs have zero playoff wins since the start of the 2004 season, and they are still digging out of the hole where Hendry put them.
I think a GM's job is to get a team to the playoffs and its mostly happenstance after that. He put together 4 real good teams.


So how is it that Kenny is the best and Hendry is terrible?

Again, I'm not sure who said that.
Almost everyone on this site seems to think Kenny is awesome and Hendry sucked.

(Again, not aimed at Chus, just ranting off of a post he made)

Secondly, many Sox fans have called the Sox a good organization. They are not. I dont know why its so difficult for Sox fans to comprehend. 103 years without a title is bad. 86 years is pretty terrible too.

Yes, Im saying that 1 win in 96 tries is not that good.