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PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:53 pm 
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If anywhere close the 7 years at $60 million and this is an awesome deal for Theo and company. "Hey 23 year old 2 time all-star who just had his first long slump and hangs w a guy making Romney money....how bout a long term deal". Only increases trade value if Baez or others continue path.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:16 pm 
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Castro will be another Soriano.


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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
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No disrespect but your stuff is bad on too many levels to rap.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
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Castro will be another Soriano.

I don't think Cub fans would hate Soriano if he only made less than $9M/year during his tenure here. I don't like Castro that much, from what I know, but this seems like a great contract without much downside.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 9:50 am 
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He will never have the power numbers Soriano had..unless he is using PED's.. If I am Castros agent I tell him 3-4 year deal..no longer.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 10:37 am 
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Castro will be a career 300 plus hitter..take more walks in the future and get that obp up..he should also be a 15-20 hr a year player..and his defense is better now then sorianos ever was...If soriano was making 8 or 9 million a year nobody would criticize him..that goes for any sport when a guy is stealing money.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2012 12:02 pm 
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Castro is also younger than all the prospect call ups from this year just to put this into perspective. He has pissed me off to no end this year with his general approach at the plate and his lack of concentration in the field and on the basepaths.....but there is so much time to fix these things. He needs a good role model though to remove all of the Aram influence.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
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Soriano is a terrible influence on Castro...this club since he came up has been a fucking embarrassment with Lou and Quade.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
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Soriano is a terrible influence on Castro...this club since he came up has been a fucking embarrassment with Lou and Quade.


Aram is light years worse than Soriano. Soriano is a chill and low key guy but he puts in an effort to try and get better. Aram was a piece of shit. He was all about Aram and Aram's power stats and Aram's money. I hope they grab a recently retired omar vizquel as the infield coach or someone that Castro will respect and was a very good latin player in his time.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
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Fuck Soriano, he is a fucking butcher and would rather stay here on a loser then relocate to a better team..he swings at garbage and has Castro out clubbing with his over paid ass..Aram produced ..4 or 5 years he knocked in 100 and was average with his defense and paid accordingly.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
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Seems like a good deal. I mean how much will 9-10 million be in 2017?


I wasnt sure if Theo liked Starlin. Guess so.


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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Seems like a good deal. I mean how much will 9-10 million be in 2017?


I wasnt sure if Theo liked Starlin. Guess so.

I didnt think so either. He doesnt exactly fit the moneyball profile .

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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
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badrogue17 wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Seems like a good deal. I mean how much will 9-10 million be in 2017?


I wasnt sure if Theo liked Starlin. Guess so.

I didnt think so either. He doesnt exactly fit the moneyball profile .

But really Moneyball wasnt so much about OBP as it was finding value in the market. Castro is valuable.


I think.


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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
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Epstein is no dummy, he knows if Castro makes small improvements yearly he will underpaid on that deal, maybe even as soon as next season or 2 years in.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
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rogers park bryan wrote:
I wasnt sure if Theo liked Starlin. Guess so.


We still don't really know if he likes him or not. This contract would be very trade friendly down the road as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Seems like a good deal. I mean how much will 9-10 million be in 2017?


I wasnt sure if Theo liked Starlin. Guess so.

Really? It's a great deal for the Cubs from what I can tell but in no way does it represent the idea that Theo likes Starlin. It's the NBA equivalent of the Rondo deal, except Rondo's deal is even more team friendly. And rondo has been rumored in trades since the week he signed the deal.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
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This is an awesome deal for the Cubs.

Although you could ask - if Cubs are giving Castro ~$9MM for next 7 years, why didn't they go harder after Cespedes, who Oakland is giving $9MM per for 4 years.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
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Yeah, I guess the deal itself doesnt mean Theo loves Castro.

I think he does though. I mean as much as people like to point out that he's not a high obp Theo kind of player, he's a great hitting SS. That's the kind of player everyone loves.


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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
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I think the jury is still out on whether he's a shortstop.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I think the jury is still out on whether he's a shortstop.

Well, right now he is.

Whatever he becomes, he looks like a guy that is going to hit and hit and hit


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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
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312player wrote:
Epstein is no dummy, he knows if Castro makes small improvements yearly he will underpaid on that deal, maybe even as soon as next season or 2 years in.


He is arbitration eligible over the next three years. There is not much chance he'd be seeing 8+ million during his arbitration years. Castro exchanges a possible big payday in his first year of FA for a good money up front and stability.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
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312player wrote:
Soriano is a terrible influence on Castro...this club since he came up has been a fucking embarrassment with Lou and Quade.


I said a couple of months ago that the danger in conceeding seasons under Epstien's plan was that good players like Castro and Rizzo would be infected with a losing mentality. I think Castro is already bordering on this.

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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
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good dolphin wrote:
312player wrote:
Epstein is no dummy, he knows if Castro makes small improvements yearly he will underpaid on that deal, maybe even as soon as next season or 2 years in.


He is arbitration eligible over the next three years. There is not much chance he'd be seeing 8+ million during his arbitration years.

I havent really thought about it, but what makes you say that?


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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
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I have this suspicion that Theo signed Castro to this deal specifically to trade him.

He found out something during trade deadline talks and he's making him more valuable by attaching such a long affordable contract


Is that crazy? There might even be a rule about trading a free agent in his first year.


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 Post subject: Re: Castro new contract
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I don't think its crazy. If he sticks around and the Cubs are paying at or under market value for a guy like Castro, its a good deal. If Castro ends up getting traded to bring in another superstar or a bunch of other prospects, it could still be a good deal.

Seems like its a pretty solid deal from the Cubs POV all the way around.

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