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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 10:57 am 
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There was a ton of Goff love on this board, a metric ton. He didn't get his shot at a full time position or he blew it or whatever so the love died down. Now "The Haters" hear him more and dislike him more and "The Lovers" hear him more and find that he wasn't all that and a bag of chips like they thought.

SomeGuy, I'd like to officially blame you as the catalyst for the negative vibes in all things related to Team BernStine.

You should really be ashamed of yourself.


Ashamed?

Either way I don't figure myself as some vanguard or whatnot...people were just too scared to speak the truth, express their true feelings about the show or even level solid criticism. They were hidden away in undisclosed locations hiding from a certain group of people that, no matter how bad things got, would always lecture us on how good and awesome the show was even when it entered into a, seemingly, terminal decline. Any peep of negativity would result in a signal flare in the sky and a massive beatdown and silencing of those who dared speak truth to power.

It isn't like that anymore. Sure the old, broken down and powerless regime that once held the reigns of this fair board squawks from time to time...but it's mostly background noise or a death rattle from a once powerful operation.


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SomeGuy, we could be a powerful force if you would only choose to let go of your selfishness and agree with me on everything.

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SomeGuy, we could be a powerful force if you would only choose to let go of your selfishness and agree with me on everything.


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Jeez, did he block all of you on twitter or something?

Yeah, the Goff hate is reaching Holmes-like levels on this board.

So....I guess its not just me. Must be Jason.


Why do you defend him so much or take exception to it?

Well OFB, this is starting to remind me of Eminem's song "Stan" in a way. Seems like a lot of the board liked Goff, but since he hasn't shown the same love back to a lot of you, it is now a sour grapes kind of thing.....sort of like a hot chick that turned you down, and you look for things to dislike her about now.

Why cant it be that Goff has changed for the worse? (Something you've at least partially agreed with)

and btw, why do you always take exception to the hate/criticism of Blacks hosts but not Zaidman or Teinowizc?


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Why cant it be that Goff has changed for the worse? (Something you've at least partially agreed with)

and btw, why do you always take exception to the hate/criticism of Blacks hosts but not Zaidman or Teinowizc?


I agree with this. Or maybe Goff was always like this and we just didn't know...

Again, this board was in full "We Love Goff" mode a year or so ago and now it has shifted a bit. There are legitimate criticisms that are being leveled at Goff around these parts and there is nothing wrong with that. I mean, he was being built up on here and everyday there was talk about him getting a prime time gig, it was even hinted at by BernSTINE, Boers and Mac. It never happened, I wonder why?


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 20, 2012 12:20 pm 
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I like Goff.

I just don't like when he falls back on lazy methods of arguing his point, particularly after a guy hangs up and he defines who that guy was.


That's very much true. Goff has to "label" you after a sports conversation. That's always the case with him. Every conversation is just so heavy with him. He projects too much meaning to shit. Always on edge. You're gonna have a heart attack going through life like this, Goff. I can't imagine your reaction to a real crisis.

Goff's want to label those that don't agree with him is a fall back for his own insecurities. It's a classic defense mechanism.

Ya know, Jason, you might not like to hear the definition of yourself. Truth might hurt. So don't carry yourself as better than everybody. You're not. Just some advice.


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Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote:
I like Goff.

I just don't like when he falls back on lazy methods of arguing his point, particularly after a guy hangs up and he defines who that guy was.


That's very much true. Goff has to "label" you after a sports conversation. That's always the case with him. Every conversation is just so heavy with him. He projects too much meaning to shit. Always on edge. You're gonna have a heart attack going through life like this, Goff. I can't imagine your reaction to a real crisis.

Goff's want to label those that don't agree with him is a fall back for his own insecurities. It's a classic defense mechanism.

Ya know, Jason, you might not like to hear the definition of yourself. Truth might hurt. So don't carry yourself as better than everybody. You're not. Just some advice.


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Goff seems to spend a lot of time branding himself. He's the NBA Expert, so he'll tell you why you're basketball stupid, but he's also The Cool Young Guy, so don't call him the NBA Expert, because he never asked for that title. He's the SCORE Stuff Brothers Don't Do Expert, but don't call in and mention race, because jeez everything is about race with you flatbrim-hating white people. He's the Social Media Guy, but he'll block your ass if you so much as breathe a word about that one time when (in his capacity as NBA Expert only don't call him that) he blew the biggest story of the year. Just calm the fuck down and do your thing, man.

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Goff seems to spend a lot of time branding himself. He's the NBA Expert, so he'll tell you why you're basketball stupid, but he's also The Cool Young Guy, so don't call him the NBA Expert, because he never asked for that title. He's the SCORE Stuff Brothers Don't Do Expert, but don't call in and mention race, because jeez everything is about race with you flatbrim-hating white people. He's the Social Media Guy, but he'll block your ass if you so much as breathe a word about that one time when (in his capacity as NBA Expert only don't call him that) he blew the biggest story of the year. Just calm the fuck down and do your thing, man.

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Hmmmmmm, ZZ doing another pre-recorded Bears segment on the Mac show......


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To me, Goff has always been a terrific listen and remains so.


agreed and I neverr have considered him arrogant.

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For some reason Goff comes off a lot more annoying on the B and B show.

He seems more jovial in the solo shows.


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For some reason Goff comes off a lot more annoying on the B and B show.

He seems more jovial in the solo shows.


Correct.

When he is on the BernsSTINE show he, at times, comes off as someone looking for approval or trying to hard to be like BernSTINE or when he chimes in to take a counter position for the sake of it.


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Ok, let me ask you guys a hypothetical question.....lets just say Doug makes a platinum record, or I make a critically acclaimed movie :lol: , and as a result of that, we didn't have much time for the board, or respond back to texts/emails/PM's....would you all then turn on us, too?

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To me, Goff has always been a terrific listen and remains so.


agreed and I neverr have considered him arrogant.


I think his chime ins on B&B are great. He's solid as a fill in guy, and when he gets to drive the bus I think he does just fine. Some of youse guys seem to have a personal problem with him. I'm not trying to be his best buddy, I just want to be entertained. He delivers that for me.

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Goff seems to spend a lot of time branding himself. He's the NBA Expert, so he'll tell you why you're basketball stupid, but he's also The Cool Young Guy, so don't call him the NBA Expert, because he never asked for that title. He's the SCORE Stuff Brothers Don't Do Expert, but don't call in and mention race, because jeez everything is about race with you flatbrim-hating white people. He's the Social Media Guy, but he'll block your ass if you so much as breathe a word about that one time when (in his capacity as NBA Expert only don't call him that) he blew the biggest story of the year. Just calm the fuck down and do your thing, man.


Goff makes more ignorant, bigoted and racist comments than any Score caller or texter. Goff might be the only person in the history of the world that fights racism with racism. I think he looks like a fool, but nobody at the Score calls him on it.


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Ok, let me ask you guys a hypothetical question.....lets just say Doug makes a platinum record, or I make a critically acclaimed movie :lol: , and as a result of that, we didn't have much time for the board, or respond back to texts/emails/PM's....would you all then turn on us, too?

What an awful analogy


You are becoming blind defender of all things Goff


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Ok, let me ask you guys a hypothetical question.....lets just say Doug makes a platinum record, or I make a critically acclaimed movie :lol: , and as a result of that, we didn't have much time for the board, or respond back to texts/emails/PM's....would you all then turn on us, too?





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Ok, let me ask you guys a hypothetical question.....lets just say Doug makes a platinum record, or I make a critically acclaimed movie :lol: , and as a result of that, we didn't have much time for the board, or respond back to texts/emails/PM's....would you all then turn on us, too?


I've never corresponded with Goff here or anywhere else. My opinions of him have nothing to do with the frequency of his CSFMB appearances and everything to do with his work on the air.

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Ok, let me ask you guys a hypothetical question.....lets just say Doug makes a platinum record

I always get overlooked. :(

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Ok, let me ask you guys a hypothetical question.....lets just say Doug makes a platinum record

I always get overlooked. :(

Perhaps because you're so short. If I were you, I would wear a taller hat.

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Oh, Darko. We're standing face-to-face...figuratively. You're like 6'0" right?

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Oh, Darko. We're standing face-to-face...figuratively. You're like 6'0" right?

Something like that.

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Oh, Darko. We're standing face-to-face...figuratively. You're like 6'0" right?

Something like that.

Kamps and Ivan only have about two inches on me. At least that's what it seemed like.

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Oh, Darko. We're standing face-to-face...figuratively. You're like 6'0" right?

Something like that.

Kamps and Ivan only have about two inches on me. At least that's what it seemed like.

Yeah, but they're not taller than you.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
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Oh, Darko. We're standing face-to-face...figuratively. You're like 6'0" right?

Something like that.

Kamps and Ivan only have about two inches on me. At least that's what it seemed like.

Hi Kid!!!


I thought about taking that to the Eupemism thread, but I am not going to. :D

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Yeah. You know I did that on purpose. It's not quite the same when it's purposely done.

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I still like Goff. My stance on him is that many of his opinions are over the top and I disagree with them, but that's kind of the job.

Doug sucks now, so he'd still suck if he had a hit record.

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