He's (sorta statistically) better than Harper at least!

I love that IMU has been secretly injecting Jackson with HGH in order to look better in his argument. From a Cub fan POV, we are all winners.

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Lies.


You started the thread with this;
Brett Jackson has played 20 major league games. That is not a "sufficient amount of data" any way you slice it for an everyday player.

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From these stats I project Jackson to have a career stolen base total of zero.

I hear beeping you are backtracking so much.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

20 is sufficient data for a relief pitcher, not for Brett Jackson. You can be a hypocrite all you want I guess.

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It's a simple question and you fail to answer it. I will ignore your thoughts further as they are meaningless as you continue to twist it around.

Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't believe you had an qualifiers on it besides the fact that Jackson's ceiling is Mike Trout. Any reasonable person would expect that you think that is referring to projected career numbers and not what they did as a rookie. However, maybe I am wrong and I would like you to clarify. You refuse to answer because you know that you will look like a fool if you say that you think Jackson will have as good of a career as Trout and then he doesn't.

Let's get to the "Hard-Hitting Truth". I don't think Jackson will have anything close to as good of a career as Trout and I will enjoy bringing this fact up for the next few years if I am right. Feel free to take the other side of the argument but don't pull an Elmhurst Steve and cop out now and then twist yourself back into the discussion later if it works out for you.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Let's not say things we can't take back!

Good catch.

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I'll be surprised if Brett is as ever as good as Reggie.

What is Josh Vitters ceiling?

Im thinking Mike Schmidt or Brooks Robinson

I'm thinking AAA, if he's lucky he'll be a "AAAA" player

Is this a reference to physical size??

In any case, it's nice to see the lad making contact more frequently. As far as how recent success may translate....lets take a step back and just let him finish out the season. Sometimes a guy gets a run against pitching that is a bit shy of stellar and pads the stats a bit. But he's a really solid outfielder, has good speed and a decent arm. I just hope he continues to put the ball in play.

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Go Cubs!!!!

This is like comparing a shitburger to God.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

I think my Hinrich Lebron comparison is apt.


I hope Jackson is that good

I am reading thru all of this, but from the jist of it, please tell me IMU is not comparing Jackson to Trout. IMU if you are, it will not end well.

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Yes I believe there's no other conclusion to draw.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

It's not hard to remember since it's stupid right now.

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Anybody here seen my old friend Bobby?
Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

IMU, I like you and I like the fact that you believe some of the stuff you type.

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That's a lot different than saying a guy is "better" than another guy. If a dumbass GM built a team around Deng, it would be worse than one built around Anthony.

IMU: The Skip Bayless of CSFMB

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Can you tell me where he's gone?
I thought I saw him walkin' up to The Hill
With Matthew, Tulsi, and Don

He's proven no such thing. Carmelo has technically gotten 1 game further in the playoffs for their career. Carmelo hasnt played with a player near the caliber of Rose. Deng is a great role player. Carmelo is a legitimate All Star that failed to reach his potential as a superstar. Every GM would rather have Melo over Deng, all things being equal. In a vacuum, Melo is a much better basketball player than Luol Deng is.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Really not a bad analogy.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

IMU, the Deng comparison was terrible and this one is worse.


First you were arguing the ceiling thing. (Like of course he COULD be Trout, we'll just see)


Now that Jackson has lit up the MLB to the tune of a .781 OPS, you're going way overboard.


Trout is a special player. It seems like you think he's just some guy that's having a good year.

Trout, at age 20, is playing better than everyone else in MLB. He's a 9.1 WAR. That's higher than the MLB leader the last 3 years and 3 full wins ahead of the next guy.

To expect Trout to fall off to the level of Jackson is silly.



Jackson might not make the MLB team next year.

Replace Brett Jackson with Gordon Beckham and go read some threads about him in 2009. I was one of them that was fooled into thinking Bacon was going to be a hellava run producer in the middle of the lineup for the Sox.

So much for your "sample size"


Maybe Jackson will be great. Maybe he will be just ok. Maybe he will end up being a .230-.240 hitter with 8-10 HRs and 50-60 RBI. I do not see anything that tells me that 24 year old Brett Jackson will have as good or better a career than Mike Trout unless Trout gets hurt.

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If Melo was on the Bulls instead of Deng, they would have beaten Philly even after Rose's injury

I was an idiot with Beckham-- who won Rookie of the Year while learning a new position at the big league level-- but you are smart with Brett Jackson?

I would rather be an idiot then.

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Umm... with all due respect are you sure you want to type this after some of the stuff I just read?

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They wouldve if Noah didnt get hurt too.

But its a good point. We needed Deng to come up big and he came up small. Deng will almost certainly never be the 2nd best player on a championship team. Melo could be the best if he had a 2011 Mavs-type of supporting cast around him like Dirk had.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

IMU is absolutely sure he wants to call someone an idiot at any and every opportunity, deserved or not.

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Trout is great, Jackson will be a serviceable MLB player if he can hit above .250. But I'm pretty certain Trout's on something.

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