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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:00 am 
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I'm complaining about the people who are complaining about the new L cars. If you are too fat to fit in the seats, you probably should be standing anyway.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:22 am 
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Are you talking about the ones with the seats that only run along the side? I don't like those either. I like to face forward in moving vehicles.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:24 am 
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yes those are the new ones. I always opted for the sideways chairs on the old cars since my legs didn't fit in the other seats anyway.

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yes those are the new ones. I always opted for the sideways chairs on the old cars since my legs didn't fit in the other seats anyway.


If you're too tall to sit in the seats, you should probably be standing anyways.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:31 am 
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Post/avatar combo, lol.

I'm not incapable of sitting along the sides, but I prefer just plain old forward-facing seats. Aren't the new cars supposed to have a much higher capacity this way, though?

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Post/avatar combo, lol.

I'm not incapable of sitting along the sides, but I prefer just plain old forward-facing seats. Aren't the new cars supposed to have a much higher capacity this way, though?


Makes it easier for bums to stretch out.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 27, 2012 10:48 am 
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you can pack more people in without the row seating. easier entrace/egress with wider aisles.

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I live right next to the "garage" where these are stocked, so I see them daily. One of the big features about these trains were the LED destination signs, but the geniuses didn't realize that they needed to be color coded. So while the next batch of trains will color-coded destination signs, they will have to spend money on taking out and installing the signs on the first batch.

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you can pack more people in without the row seating. easier entrace/egress with wider aisles.


you also get the bonus of someone's junk pressed up against your face during rush hour

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I live right next to the "garage" where these are stocked, so I see them daily. One of the big features about these trains were the LED destination signs, but the geniuses didn't realize that they needed to be color coded. So while the next batch of trains will color-coded destination signs, they will have to spend money on taking out and installing the signs on the first batch.

I liked when the Pink Line trains were actually pink. Across the board, that'd be too much, but why don't they just nail some colored panels along the sides of the cars? That way, you can easily tell which line a Loop train is on, so that your non-local traveling companion doesn't miss the little destination sign in the front and wander onto a Green Line train to Englewood instead of the intended Brown Line train to Diversey. Not like that's ever happened to me or anyone I know.

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They should change the name from Pink Line to the Conga Line

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spmack wrote:
I live right next to the "garage" where these are stocked, so I see them daily. One of the big features about these trains were the LED destination signs, but the geniuses didn't realize that they needed to be color coded. So while the next batch of trains will color-coded destination signs, they will have to spend money on taking out and installing the signs on the first batch.

I liked when the Pink Line trains were actually pink. Across the board, that'd be too much, but why don't they just nail some colored panels along the sides of the cars? That way, you can easily tell which line a Loop train is on, so that your non-local traveling companion doesn't miss the little destination sign in the front and wander onto a Green Line train to Englewood instead of the intended Brown Line train to Diversey. Not like that's ever happened to me or anyone I know.


A lot of train lines that occasionally share cars, like the Brown & Orange.


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Couldn't you just switch the colors out while they're not in service, then?

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Hatchetman wrote:
you can pack more people in without the row seating. easier entrace/egress with wider aisles.


you also get the bonus of someone's junk pressed up against your face during rush hour


You had that on the old cars too!

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Has anyone ever seen people going from car to car while the train is in operation? About a month ago I was on the L and a group of 4 or 5 kids opened the door in the back of the car and moved to the next car to join some people they knew. I'm 99% sure that the L doesn't have the enclosed connection from car to car like the Metra does. The stretch of track we were going on wasn't exactly smooth either. It kind of shocked me- I had to make sure with someone I was riding with the next day to confirm that I wasn't imagining things, hallucinating, or dreaming.

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I thought it was "EL"?

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Has anyone ever seen people going from car to car while the train is in operation? About a month ago I was on the L and a group of 4 or 5 kids opened the door in the back of the car and moved to the next car to join some people they knew. I'm 99% sure that the L doesn't have the enclosed connection from car to car like the Metra does. The stretch of track we were going on wasn't exactly smooth either. It kind of shocked me- I had to make sure with someone I was riding with the next day to confirm that I wasn't imagining things, hallucinating, or dreaming.



I used to do that shit all the time when I rode the L every day in law school and then later in life when I was running from the US Marshalls and/or chasing down guys with one arm and bad jerry curls.

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back in the day (1970s) I think going from car to car was freely permitted.

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I thought it was "EL"?

The CTA signage says 'L' but I can't be bothered to hit the apostrophe key twice every time I mention it.

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you can pack more people in without the row seating. easier entrace/egress with wider aisles.


Thats why Rahmster got em, fit more people in!

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Which lines have them? Red/Blue/Brown? I can't imagine there's a need to pack people in on the Green or Pink, unless you're just going to run fewer cars on them.

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Curious Hair wrote:
Which lines have them? Red/Blue/Brown? I can't imagine there's a need to pack people in on the Green or Pink, unless you're just going to run fewer cars on them.

Right now they are only on the Green and Pink lines. They will eventually move to to the Orange and Red Lines.

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I thought it was "EL"?

We speak English here, Paco.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
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That's only the orange line, Frank.

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Has anyone ever seen people going from car to car while the train is in operation? About a month ago I was on the L and a group of 4 or 5 kids opened the door in the back of the car and moved to the next car to join some people they knew. I'm 99% sure that the L doesn't have the enclosed connection from car to car like the Metra does. The stretch of track we were going on wasn't exactly smooth either. It kind of shocked me- I had to make sure with someone I was riding with the next day to confirm that I wasn't imagining things, hallucinating, or dreaming.


Technically, it's not supposed to be done, like panhandling & eating/drinking. There are chains that connect the train cars, but nothing else to enclose you.


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Hatchetman wrote:
you can pack more people in without the row seating. easier entrace/egress with wider aisles.


Thats why Rahmster got em, fit more people in!


Trib article said the decision on these was made 10 years ago. Rahmster's guy kind of implied were it up to him he may have done it differently.

From http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/loca ... ?track=rss

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Claypool, who joined the CTA as part of the Emanuel administration last year, did not select or approve the center-facing seating, and he did not say whether he would have chosen that design if it were up to him.

"The decisions for the 5000 Series were made nearly 10 years ago, based on extensive engineering and design review," Claypool said. "Without doing the same kind of research and analysis they did 10 years ago, we don't know what factors would guide a decision today."

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