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The only thing that's unknown is if Bernstein will engage. He really doesn't want to take part in these things. Quite franky, he doesn't care. He wants to make his 500k and watch everybody around him self destruct. That's his joy.

That being said, he might do it for the fun of it. Not to defend Larry and Goff. Cuz he doesn't think much of them. Just to do it. Maybe to satisfy his ego a little bit.

That would be something if he did. A "Mac vs. Bernstein" war would be the all timer in Chicago radio history.

I think Bernstein would win. Sorry, Mac. He just would.


Bernstien has never carried a radio station. The B and B show was lagging well behind MJH in ratings. B and B does not even get the top ratings of all the shows at their station. Bernstien is a paper tiger with a niche show. I like his work but I don't think the lack of Bernstien's presence would change the popularity of the station one bit.


I wasn't talking about them battling over listeners. I was just saying Bernstein would defeat Mac in one of these stupid Score fights.


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The only thing that's unknown is if Bernstein will engage. He really doesn't want to take part in these things. Quite franky, he doesn't care. He wants to make his 500k and watch everybody around him self destruct. That's his joy.


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Really disappointing if Mac actually got his panties in a bunch over anything with Goff and Lawrence....maybe he should get back on the booze cause he's really tallying up the tiffs over there....Mulley, Zach, now Goff and Lawrence? Being sensitive is not a good look for any host...

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Really disappointing if Mac actually got his panties in a bunch over anything with Goff and Lawrence....maybe he should get back on the booze cause he's really tallying up the tiffs over there....Mulley, Zach, now Goff and Lawrence? Being sensitive is not a good look for any host...


Is that Rick Mirer in your avatar?


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Being sensitive is not a good look for any host...

Sure it is.

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RE: What was the straw that broke the camel's back with Mac


I think Mac was pretty miffed when he found out how often and the context in which they were doing the DAMAHNA thing while he was out with depression.

I think the plan to go with "his own guys" might have been born there.


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You betcha it is Mr. Mirer.....and I get it makes for compelling radio, but Mike Murphy was also in that boat

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RE: What was the straw that broke the camel's back with Mac


I think Mac was pretty miffed when he found out how often and the context in which they were doing the DAMAHNA thing while he was out with depression.

I think the plan to go with "his own guys" might have been born there.


I agree. You couple that with the fact that it was coming from a radio youngin' like Goff who is a BernSTINE guy (And Mac isn't a BernSTINE fan) and you get what we have here.

The war is on.


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The war is on.

Im such a nerd for sports radio for thinking this but man that would be the best thing ever if theere was an all out feud between shows (but they still somehow were forced to do transtion)


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The war is on.

Im such a nerd for sports radio for thinking this but man that would be the best thing ever if theere was an all out feud between shows (but they still somehow were forced to do transtion)


Im with you, totally and completely.


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Mully & Mike Murphy Transition style if I remember correctly?

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What if a Score ambush were put on Larry and Goff? What the hell would their reaction be?

For Example:

-What if a Score host said "Ja Sa Go" every time a reporter totally fucks up a report on a major sports story? How would Goff feel?

-What if a Score host said "La Ra Ho" every time there is a story about a white anchor women being stalked? How would Larry feel?

You know damn well they would cry and run to Mitch. They wouldn't take it as good natured fun. They want to dish it, but they can't take it.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
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The war is on.

Im such a nerd for sports radio for thinking this but man that would be the best thing ever if theere was an all out feud between shows (but they still somehow were forced to do transtion)


This scenario took place during Ditka's last days as Bears head coach. North/the Monsters were staunch Ditka supporters whereas Boers/the Heavy Fuel Crew ranked among his major critics. The disagreement over Ditka's coaching ability spilled over into many areas and spawned a serious of epic transition battles between these two radio goliaths.

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Why the fuck is ZZ allowed to pre-record his shit for Mac's show? Beause Mac hurt his feelings? Who the fuck is running that place? Ive worked with lots of goofs i couldnt stand. I couldnt pre-record my job. I had to deal with the assholes. Grow up Zach. And grow a set Mitch.

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Why the fuck is ZZ allowed to pre-record his shit for Mac's show? Beause Mac hurt his feelings? Who the fuck is running that place? Ive worked with lots of goofs i couldnt stand. I couldnt pre-record my job. I had to deal with the assholes. Grow up Zach. And grow a set Mitch.


You mean since Mac called Zach a Bears apologist on air? Mitch is awfully lucky that AM1000 sucks so bad. I wish they would raise the bar up the dial so the Score would be forced to do the same.

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Tall Midget wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:

The war is on.

Im such a nerd for sports radio for thinking this but man that would be the best thing ever if theere was an all out feud between shows (but they still somehow were forced to do transtion)


This scenario took place during Ditka's last days as Bears head coach. North/the Monsters were staunch Ditka supporters whereas Boers/the Heavy Fuel Crew ranked among his major critics. The disagreement over Ditka's coaching ability spilled over into many areas and spawned a serious of epic transition battles between these two radio goliaths.

That's great

I wish Score history was on Youtube the way a lot of stuff is now.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:

The war is on.

Im such a nerd for sports radio for thinking this but man that would be the best thing ever if theere was an all out feud between shows (but they still somehow were forced to do transtion)


This scenario took place during Ditka's last days as Bears head coach. North/the Monsters were staunch Ditka supporters whereas Boers/the Heavy Fuel Crew ranked among his major critics. The disagreement over Ditka's coaching ability spilled over into many areas and spawned a serious of epic transition battles between these two radio goliaths.

That's great

I wish Score history was on Youtube the way a lot of stuff is now.


I don't know how old you are, or is you attended any Score remotes in the early to mid 1990's, but they were unbelievable, with guys coming in from out of town, I remember going to a HFC remote at Ron Santos old restaurant...the place was huge. I cant remember where it was or what it is now, but the entire bar was jammed with Scoreheads...completely packed. They did a live WYC with all the regulars at the time like Cleveland Mike, Cheesehead Scott, Raffy from Berwyn (RIP), & Bob somebody I forgot his moniker, he sounded like a south sider with a heavy Chicago accent. Anyway, these events were out of control & an absolute riot.
I would pay good money to be able to see an archive & video of events from the early days.

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Beardown wrote:
What if a Score ambush were put on Larry and Goff? What the hell would their reaction be?

For Example:

-What if a Score host said "Ja Sa Go" every time a reporter totally fucks up a report on a major sports story? How would Goff feel?

-What if a Score host said "La Ra Ho" every time there is a story about a white anchor women being stalked? How would Larry feel?

You know damn well they would cry and run to Mitch. They wouldn't take it as good natured fun. They want to dish it, but they can't take it.


Another cromulent point from Beardown. I assume Jason would block the offender(s) from his Twitter and Leery would pay someone to hold him back from hitting them.

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What if a Score ambush were put on Larry and Goff? What the hell would their reaction be?

Cry and go running to their mommies.


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And grow a set Mitch.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Not gonna happen in this lifetime.


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I don't know how old you are, or is you attended any Score remotes in the early to mid 1990's, but they were unbelievable, with guys coming in from out of town, I remember going to a HFC remote at Ron Santos old restaurant...the place was huge. I cant remember where it was or what it is now, but the entire bar was jammed with Scoreheads...completely packed. They did a live WYC with all the regulars at the time like Cleveland Mike, Cheesehead Scott, Raffy from Berwyn (RIP), & Bob somebody I forgot his moniker, he sounded like a south sider with a heavy Chicago accent. Anyway, these events were out of control & an absolute riot.
I would pay good money to be able to see an archive & video of events from the early days.


I've never been to a remote, but you bring up some great memories for me, Scorehead. Some of those guys--especially Rafael from Berwyn and Cleveland Mike--were fantastic callers. In the first 5-10 years of the Score, there were so many guys like that. Callers were treated with respect and were given ample time to speak. As a result a whole roster of "stars" were born. The station embraced this system because it was "the voice of the fan" speaking out against a "sports establishment" dominated by a soft print media that coddled irresponsible and apathetic sports ownership.

With the corporate consolidation of radio and the ascent of Bernstein at the station, that dynamic rapidly changed. Internalizing the aesthetic of reality television (which itself is a cultural expression of social darwinism and a rejection of the concept of a common good), Bernstein quickly turned sports talk into a mechanism for questioning the behavior of relatively powerless sports fans rather than a tool for criticizing the most powerful figures on the sports landscape. Effectively, Bernstein waged an ideological war on sports fandom by attempting to discredit its foundational concepts, the idea of collective experience and the common good. Bernstein believes in neither and as such is perfectly aligned with the reigning free market/privatization/austerity-driven orthodoxy of the contemporary moment. This value system explains his valorization of white collar identity and his dismissal of blue collar culture. Bernstein's hatred of the working class isn't based on class prejudice alone; rather, it penetrates much deeper--he is revolted by an entire type of experience (collective joy, pain, happiness and sorrow) and a way of looking at that experience (that big problems can be resolved by regular people if they band together) that together form the basis for a social category known as the working class.

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What if a Score ambush were put on Larry and Goff? What the hell would their reaction be?

For Example:

-What if a Score host said "Ja Sa Go" every time a reporter totally fucks up a report on a major sports story? How would Goff feel?

-What if a Score host said "La Ra Ho" every time there is a story about a white anchor women being stalked? How would Larry feel?

You know damn well they would cry and run to Mitch. They wouldn't take it as good natured fun. They want to dish it, but they can't take it.


Another cromulent point from Beardown. I assume Jason would block the offender(s) from his Twitter and Leery would pay someone to hold him back from hitting them.


They would absolutly cry like babies. They're also off limits at the Score because people are scared that they'll be called a racist if a Score ambush is directed there way. Not even an ambush. Just some friendsly jabs. Goff and Larry have made it known that they'll use the race card. That's their shield. They do it all the time. It was extra thick at the end of yesterday's show.

No, Goff and Larry, I'm not racist cuz I said "race card". You know what I think? I think people who say that people who say "race card" are racists, are probably racists themselves. Because they are basically saying that they should be given a free pass to use the race card. And people who think they deserve a free pass to use the race card are most likely racist.


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-What if a Score host said "La Ra Ho"
"Ja Sa Go"

:lol: :lol: :lol:

I hope someone uses these. They both work well.


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I've never been to a remote, but you bring up some great memories for me, Scorehead. Some of those guys--especially Rafael from Berwyn and Cleveland Mike--were fantastic callers. In the first 5-10 years of the Score, there were so many guys like that. Callers were treated with respect and were given ample time to speak. As a result a whole roster of "stars" were born. The station embraced this system because it was "the voice of the fan" speaking out against a "sports establishment" dominated by a soft print media that coddled irresponsible and apathetic sports ownership.

With the corporate consolidation of radio and the ascent of Bernstein at the station, that dynamic rapidly changed. Internalizing the aesthetic of reality television (which itself is a cultural expression of social darwinism and a rejection of the concept of a common good), Bernstein quickly turned sports talk into a mechanism for questioning the behavior of relatively powerless sports fans rather than a tool for criticizing the most powerful figures on the sports landscape. Effectively, Bernstein waged an ideological war on sports fandom by attempting to discredit its foundational concepts, the idea of collective experience and the common good. Bernstein believes in neither and as such is perfectly aligned with the reigning free market/privatization/austerity-driven orthodoxy of the contemporary moment. This value system explains his valorization of white collar identity and his dismissal of blue collar culture. Bernstein's hatred of the working class isn't based on class prejudice alone; rather, it penetrates much deeper--he is revolted by an entire type of experience (collective joy, pain, happiness and sorrow) and a way of looking at that experience (that big problems can be resolved by regular people if they band together) that together form the basis for a social category known as the working class.



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What Tall Midget is trying to say is Bernstein's an asshole. That being said,the combination of him and Rozner sounded great recently. Dan actually sounded happy.

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I'm really surprised Bernstein likes baseball because it seems to be everything he dislikes: mediocre or bad teams beating good teams without logical reason, and great players being bad more than half the time.

I'm even more surprised he likes the Sox: fandom is blue collar, Chicagoans, and they are third or fourth fiddle in the city of sports. Bernstein always tries to align himself with the best.


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The war is on.

Im such a nerd for sports radio for thinking this but man that would be the best thing ever if theere was an all out feud between shows (but they still somehow were forced to do transtion)


You have definitely been listening to a lot of old Stern shows. Those were the days when he was on the muscle, and fighting with someone, usually management. When he does it now, it sounds so forced.

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The war is on.

Im such a nerd for sports radio for thinking this but man that would be the best thing ever if theere was an all out feud between shows (but they still somehow were forced to do transtion)


This scenario took place during Ditka's last days as Bears head coach. North/the Monsters were staunch Ditka supporters whereas Boers/the Heavy Fuel Crew ranked among his major critics. The disagreement over Ditka's coaching ability spilled over into many areas and spawned a serious of epic transition battles between these two radio goliaths.


Transitions between the Monsters and the HFC were must listen radio back in the early and mid 90's.

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Finfer is a tough listen. I've heard him on the weekends, and he always sounds like he has something in his mouth. Once again, it's a situation of Mac having his guy, who otherwise wouldn't get a job, sort of like meat.

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