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PostPosted: Wed Sep 05, 2012 8:20 am 
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The Show is on, the war is on. After the rousing success that was the Mac/Finfer pairing from 9/4 it seems that Meat may be back in the house to deliver the goods. We shall see.

-Possible follow up hay-makers by Mac aimed squarely at Goff. They better be huge and powerful because the one Mac delivered to Goff yesterday was destructive, indeed.
-Bad White Sox baseball.
-Bears talk
-Mac grumbles
-Meat does his strange vocal inflections.
-ELO and BTO are talked about.
-More shots are taken.

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My guess is Spiegel tries to remain neutral. As much as he hates bernstein, he yearns for his respect. Respect he shall never receive.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
My guess is Spiegel tries to remain neutral. As much as he hates bernstein, he yearns for his respect. Respect he shall never receive.


I agree. He always just pokes at the bear, nibbles at the edges and all that. He's trying to tell BernSTINE, "Hey, I know stuff about numbers but I also think scouting is good." Like he is smart enough to recognize both sides...he may be but 'STINE only recognizes one.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
My guess is Spiegel tries to remain neutral. As much as he hates bernstein, he yearns for his respect. Respect he shall never receive.

He's going to have to take a side eventually.


Sooner or later he'll realize Bernstein's love is unattainable and turn to Mac.


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SomeGuy wrote:
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My guess is Spiegel tries to remain neutral. As much as he hates bernstein, he yearns for his respect. Respect he shall never receive.


I agree. He always just pokes at the bear, nibbles at the edges and all that. He's trying to tell BernSTINE, "Hey, I know stuff about numbers but I also think scouting is good." Like he is smart enough to recognize both sides...he may be but 'STINE only recognizes one.


As much as I disagree with many of bernstein's views on baseball and I know he doesn't understand a lot of the data he spews or what it actually means, Spiegel seems to think that his view is valid simply because he's a baseball fan and bernstein really isn't, even when bernstein is logically beating him about the head and shoulders with cold, hard facts.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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My guess is Spiegel tries to remain neutral. As much as he hates bernstein, he yearns for his respect. Respect he shall never receive.


I agree. He always just pokes at the bear, nibbles at the edges and all that. He's trying to tell BernSTINE, "Hey, I know stuff about numbers but I also think scouting is good." Like he is smart enough to recognize both sides...he may be but 'STINE only recognizes one.


As much as I disagree with many of bernstein's views on baseball and I know he doesn't understand a lot of the data he spews or what it actually means, Spiegel seems to think that his view is valid simply because he's a baseball fan and bernstein really isn't, even when bernstein is logically beating him about the head and shoulders with cold, hard facts.


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Agreed....funny that Speigs is pretty adverse to confrontation, while Mac goes after it like a shark sniffing blood...

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Agreed....funny that Speigs is pretty adverse to confrontation, while Mac goes after it like a shark sniffing blood...

Spiegs doesnt mind confrontation....as long as he has the upper hand. (With a caller, an intern)


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Oh ya, the callers for sure...but not with the old bulls (Terry).....but he does some good tangos with the 3 live jews crew (Bernsie, Roz, Rosenbloom)

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Oh ya, the callers for sure...but not with the old bulls (Terry).....but he does some good tangos with the 3 live jews crew (Bernsie, Roz, Rosenbloom)

Right.

Not so much with Bernstein though.

Bernstein fights him with one hand tied behind his back. He never fully goes in. If he did, Speigel would probably cry or quit or both


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rogers park bryan wrote:
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Oh ya, the callers for sure...but not with the old bulls (Terry).....but he does some good tangos with the 3 live jews crew (Bernsie, Roz, Rosenbloom)

Right.

Not so much with Bernstein though.

Bernstein fights him with one hand tied behind his back. He never fully goes in. If he did, Speigel would probably cry or quit or both

Matt just doesn't seem to have the stomach to continue arguments with Dan. Even when he's right, he'll back down when Dan gives him the begininngs of a Bernsie fight.

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Speigel backs down because arguing anything with Bernsie is like clapping with one hand holding a mace.

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Speigel backs down because arguing anything with Bernsie is like clapping with one hand holding a mace.

Word... except for that "you know what? Fuck you" caller... he absolutely owned Bernstein...

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You trapped a fish?! What the hell man, that doesn't count!

:lol: :lol:

Pretty funny exchange right there.

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You trapped a fish?! What the hell man, that doesn't count!

:lol: :lol:

Pretty funny exchange right there.

You think the fish was traumatized from net scars!? :lol:


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SomeGuy wrote:
-Possible follow up hay-makers by Mac aimed squarely at Goff. They better be huge and powerful because the one Mac delivered to Goff yesterday was destructive, indeed.



Can someone give me the story on this? I didn't listen or read anything yesterday...

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Krazy Ivan wrote:
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-Possible follow up hay-makers by Mac aimed squarely at Goff. They better be huge and powerful because the one Mac delivered to Goff yesterday was destructive, indeed.



Can someone give me the story on this? I didn't listen or read anything yesterday...

I listened to a good deal of both shows yesterday. Not much happened either way from what I heard. I think SomeGuy is just referring to Finfer officially subbing.

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Mac: Finfer deserves it.

Goff: Cant say DaMaNeee any more

Boers: I can

Goff: Mac gets his news off message boards

Bernstein: They still exist?

CSFMB: :roll:


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The "i" before "e" rule applies to the spelling Matt Spiegel's last name. I see other have the same issue in remembering that.

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Mac: Finfer deserves it.

Goff: Cant say DaMaNeee any more

Boers: I can

Goff: Mac gets his news off message boards

Bernstein: They still exist?

CSFMB: :roll:



Where is the shot at Goff? Or is this a Beardown 'Read (way) between the lines' sort of thing?

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Seems like everyone is just running wild with this schtick lately. In small doses, it can be funny. But.....I don't know....

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doug - evergreen park wrote:
Speigel backs down because arguing anything with Bernsie is like clapping with one hand holding a mace.

agreed.

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Krazy Ivan wrote:
Seems like everyone is just running wild with this schtick lately. In small doses, it can be funny. But.....I don't know....



He went out of his way to comment on Finfer's professionalism and readiness for the gig. I doubt that was coincidence.

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rogers park bryan wrote:
Mac: Finfer deserves it.

Goff: Cant say DaMaNeee any more

Boers: I can

Goff: Mac gets his news off message boards

Bernstein: They still exist?

CSFMB: :roll:

Goff said "I get my news from message boards". He didn't say Mac. That was people here reading between the lines that it even had anything to do with Mac. It didn't come off that way.

I also think is "Finji deserved it" being interpreted as a shot at Goff is a ridiculous reach.

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I think "Finji deserved it" is a ridiculous reach.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
Krazy Ivan wrote:
Seems like everyone is just running wild with this schtick lately. In small doses, it can be funny. But.....I don't know....



He went out of his way to comment on Finfer's professionalism and readiness for the gig. I doubt that was coincidence.



Hardly a "huge shot at goff". Isn't Mac supposed to be up front and honest about everything? Wouldn't he just come out and say something rather than pussyfooting? I thought that was his thing?

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Where is the shot at Goff? Or is this a Beardown 'Read (way) between the lines' sort of thing?

The only thing I heard on the subject happened at 12:35 PM CST on Mac's show. Pretty bland statement where Mac states he has listened to Finfer on weekends. He is good and is going to fill in when Mac or Spiegs are out. No shots taken. They quickly digressed into Finfer stating that Mac should call in if he is listening...and that was about it.

I guess one could reach and suggest that Mac came to the conclusion that after listening to Finfer, Mac determined that Finfer is better than the Team Bernstein options. Mac could be upset at how Team Bernstein fill ins treat him (ala damaneel stuff), but he didn't say anything like that. At least that I heard.


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Beardown is the guy hustling all this stuff up. He is finally able to take "credit" for something and he's going to run it into the ground.

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Krazy Ivan wrote:
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Krazy Ivan wrote:
Seems like everyone is just running wild with this schtick lately. In small doses, it can be funny. But.....I don't know....



He went out of his way to comment on Finfer's professionalism and readiness for the gig. I doubt that was coincidence.



Hardly a "huge shot at goff". Isn't Mac supposed to be up front and honest about everything? Wouldn't he just come out and say something rather than pussyfooting? I thought that was his thing?



I wouldn't call it pussyfooting. If you listen to the show regularly it was obvious what it was. It's not something Mac would normally say. Believe me, Jason and Laurence know what it was.

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