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While I wouldn't bank on Culpepper getting the boot out of Miami just yet and there's no way I would name Daunte as a starter if I ran an NFL organization, here are some teams that might give him that shot in training camp.

- Baltimore Ravens - McNair did a nice job last year, but he's a year older and has another DUI under his belt (I know he was the passenger)

- Jacksonville Jaguars - Any Jags fan knows that the relationship between Coach Jack Del Rio and Byron Leftwich isn't the greatest. Del Rio even tried to demote him by naming Garrard as starter even when Leftwich was ready to come back.

- Washington Redskins - Yes they have Jason Campbell and Mark Brunell, but they also have Dan Snyder. This guy gives away money like it's going out of style. I don't agree with the potential move, but don't be shocked when Daniel decides he can't wait another year and opts for his 5th or 6th quick fix that'll go wrong.

- Chicago Bears - Now, the main reason this won't happen is because the bears have a lot of money invested in Brian Griese...and the Bears are cheap. There's no way this happens, but its a Chicago board so what the hell? With that said, it was the QB position that hurt them the most (the games they lost last year usually included those horrific games played by Rex)

- Minnesota Vikings - Sure it'd be weird for Daunte to go back to his old employer. But let's keep in mind this is a different team than the one he was on. no Randy Moss, No Dennis Green or Mike Tice. These are completely different surroundings than before. They desperately need a QB for right now. Would the fans welcome him back?

- Atlanta Falcons - Here's a way to light a fire under Mike Vick's ass. Sign Daunte Culpepper and let them battle it out in camp. Maybe the investment would be worth keeping Vick focused and out of trouble.


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While I wouldn't bank on Culpepper getting the boot out of Miami just yet and there's no way I would name Daunte as a starter if I ran an NFL organization, here are some teams that might give him that shot in training camp.


I think he's going to get signed as a backup for a little more than backup money. Maybe he gets a chance to compete for a starter's job.

Either way, he would be a great insurance policy for a team with a great QB without a halfway decent backup (Cinci, Indy, New England). If the Colts could sign him for $1M - $1.2M (Sorgi makes $850K) wouldn't you take him? I guess it would require some type of salary adjustment before a potential trade, though.


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I'd definitely take him as a backup. but Daunte is going to want to go to a team he can compete for a starting spot on.


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I like the Atlanta idea, especially if Vick gets a suspension for the Dog Fighting he's been involved in. Maybe Oakland to be a stop-gap for a year until Russell is ready.

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Woodridge Ryan wrote:
I'd definitely take him as a backup. but Daunte is going to want to go to a team he can compete for a starting spot on.


Unless he's got a no-trade clause, it's not up to him.


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NSJ, the talk is Miami is going to flat out drop him. I wouldn't even bring this up if that wasn't the rumor right now.


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i've read the same Ryan.

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I see that nas, but I started a thread that wasn't directed to him just being a Bear. Since green is signed now, it makes this topic a bit more relevant for discussion.


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I believe Atlanta would be crazy not to go after Culpepper if he's released. They don't know what's going to happen with Vick and they don't have a backup after trading Schaub. All Vick excells at is scrambling / running so I wouldn't be surprised if Culpepper would be able to unseat him as the starter.

I still wouldn't mind seeing him in a Bears uniform, but like everyone has stated already, there's no room for him :shock: .


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Darren, is it just me, but wouldn't Vick almost be more productive as a receiver? Just throw him some 5 yard outs and see what he can do. however, I have no clue how good his hands are. Can't be much worse than the rest of that team. I always wanted to see that when Schaub was there, but of course too much money in Vick. At this point, they're almost at a point where the might as well try something different.


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Woodridge Ryan wrote:
Darren, is it just me, but wouldn't Vick almost be more productive as a receiver?


Sounds like a racialist stereotype to me.


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Hell, at this point I wish it was. I was such a HUGE fan of Vick's in college. Even in the NFL he had some great games (that playoff game in Green Bay is one of my fave games ever). I just think at this point he's pretty much proven that he can't start at QB in the NFL. He's way too talented to not be on the field however.


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It's pretty amazing what's happened to Culpepper in the last few years.


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Have there been any reports as to what his attitude is like these days?

Is he willing to work to earn a starting job somewhere or does he feel it's his right, regardless of his status?

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Vick can run but has been a disappointment as a QB in the NFL.

Who are you talking about Nas? I am confused now...


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What? He got injured? He played bad in 4 of his last 11 games. If he were healthy I would take him over any of our quarterbacks


"Next on 'Nas Uses Misleading Statistics to Argue His Point': Daunte Culpepper is still a good quarterback."

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His 2003 season was good and 2004 was outstanding. If not for Peyton Manning he would have been the QB face of the NFL.

After Moss departed and his injury he didn't look quite the same. MN didn't want him and he had at least 3 really good seasons there. Miami wants to flat out drop him after a year.

2 years ago he was one of the premire QBs and now most teams seem to be considering him for the back up. It was a quick descent and I'm not sure what was the biggest contributing factor.

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Nas: If he were healthy I would take him over any of our quarterbacks


Even Rex? :shock: :lol: Is it cuz he's black? Kidding aside that is a pretty HUGE if.


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Culpepper is likely done.
his knee ligaments had the consistentcy of mashed potatoes and it's taken him nearly two years to rehab. if he was healthy and as good as he is "suppossed to be" then why the rumors of the Dolphins dropping him?

sorry guys...many of us are pretty smart, but football execs we are not.

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"Next on 'Nas Uses Misleading Statistics to Argue His Point': Daunte Culpepper is still a good quarterback."


:lol: :lol: :lol:


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Woodridge Ryan: Darren, is it just me, but wouldn't Vick almost be more productive as a receiver? Just throw him some 5 yard outs and see what he can do. however, I have no clue how good his hands are. Can't be much worse than the rest of that team. I always wanted to see that when Schaub was there, but of course too much money in Vick. At this point, they're almost at a point where the might as well try something different.


Receiver, running back, somewhere other than quarterback. I was a fan of his in college but I honestly didn't think he'd have a HUGE impact in the NFL. Too short, too much happy feet to be an effective passer.


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- Chicago Bears - Now, the main reason this won't happen is because the bears have a lot of money invested in Brian Griese...and the Bears are cheap. There's no way this happens, but its a Chicago board so what the hell? With that said, it was the QB position that hurt them the most (the games they lost last year usually included those horrific games played by Rex)


Bears are cheap ?


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I'm just looking at the 4 games from last year and none of them were any good. They were 1-3 against 4 shitty teams. He was sacked 21 times in 4 games. Just because he has a decent QB rating in certain games doesn't mean that he played well. Granted, I didn't watch a lot of Miami last year, but all I remember is how every analyst said he was playing terrible.

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Nas wrote:
Well I won't let your eyes get in the way of you making a point.



Nas, can you attribute your quote to the user? It's confusing to follow the thread without it.


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No. If you read the thread you should be able to keep up. It takes enough time to erase a name. This hasn't been an issue since the quote function has been down for a year. I'm not trying to be a dick either


Like the phoenix in your avatar, the quote function has returned, Nas. Check the suggestions section.

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OK, Nas - let's throw this scenario out there. Right now the Dolphins want to salvage their Daunte signing by trying to trade him. If you had control of the Bears, would you try this and what is the MOST you'd be willing to give up. I'll hang up and listen to your answer.


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I'm just looking at the 4 games from last year and none of them were any good. They were 1-3 against 4 shitty teams. He was sacked 21 times in 4 games. Just because he has a decent QB rating in certain games doesn't mean that he played well. Granted, I didn't watch a lot of Miami last year, but all I remember is how every analyst said he was playing terrible.


Well I won't let your eyes get in the way of you making a point. Getting sacked is usually not the quarterbacks fault. After the 1st game of the season he had a QB rating of at least 83.5 in the next 3 and only had 1 interception. He still had a high completion percentage.


In this case, it looks like it is the QB's fault. Joey Harrington was sacked 15 times in 11 games behind that same o-line.

And did YOU watch all 4 of his games last year? I'm starting to suspect that you don't watch sports, that you just rely on stats to make your points. It's like you're one of those guys on one of the Matrix ships that stares at the screens of green codes all day. You do that, and make babies. :wink:

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Culpepper didn't look all that good before the injury, if I remember correctly. He's lost his mobility permanently, which is a loss of a significant weapon in his arsenal. He never was the most precise pass-thrower in the league, either. I'm sure he still has a cannon for an arm, but unless they adjust the NFL rules to prohibit the use of a pass rush and allow him to play from one of those old-people motorized scooters, I'd rather not see him anywhere near the Chicago organization.

Actually, forget that. I do want to see him back near the Bears- in Green Bay, preferably.

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It wasn't just the stats, Nas. He actually looked better, IMO, in the Steelers game than he did in some of the games that came after that. And it wasn't just the mobility (or lack thereof); it was the bad decisionmaking and inaccuracy too. He needs tools to be effective. Miami does not have them, nor does Chicago.

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Nas wrote:
When does getting sacked make you a bad quarterback?


When you're taking too long to throw the ball.


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Woodridge Ryan wrote:
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When does getting sacked make you a bad quarterback?


When you're taking too long to throw the ball.


Have you tried the quote fix, Ryan?


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