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What have I said about gays & minorities?
I don't go after anyone here or engage in the childish name calling & fighting. I try to stay on point & avoid conflict, but many here aren't capable of that. That is their problem not mine.
People who can disagree with each other & still conduct an adult discussion are rare around here.
Also, you are making some far reaching assumptions.


On so many levels :lol:

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I dont think Scorehead's feelings on Lovie are racially motivated.


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Scorehead wrote:

What have I said about gays & minorities?
I don't go after anyone here or engage in the childish name calling & fighting. I try to stay on point & avoid conflict, but many here aren't capable of that. That is their problem not mine.
People who can disagree with each other & still conduct an adult discussion are rare around here.
Also, you are making some far reaching assumptions.

Ill leave the race thing to others.

I know at one point you longed for the days when you could call someone a "burrito"


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Certainly you would acknowledge that the Dems plan is to increase the number of US citizens who are dependent on the government, right? The dems just love the families with multiple generations who have never ever had a job or graduated from high school, with Grandpa, Grandma, Mom, Dad, & a few kids all living in a 3 room apartment who are all on welfare & food stamps. Actually scratch the Dad...no one knows who it is & he isn't around. These Families love the dems too.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Did anyone hear this today? Is there a more arrogant miserable prick than Lovie in professional sports today? Good lord he treats people like shit. Reporters are just trying to do their jobs & Lovie craps all over them.
I expect people who ascend to a position like Lovie has to have some decorum & to treat others with respect & dignity. Heck, I expect all people to treat others with respect & dignity.
Treating people like shit is another bad human trait.

I would be willing to accept this from nearly anybody but you.


Why is that?

Based on some of the things he's said on this board about a multitude of different types of people (namely gays and minorities). He's shown that he hasn't exactly exercised the ability to treat others with respect and dignity. Scorehead is a socially-intolerant and close-minded person and such a comment coming from him is very ironic. That is all.


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So, we are in agreement that 'Dat Lubbee Smit' is an arrogant douche but it's just that Scorehead shouldn't be the one to point it out?


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Certainly you would acknowledge that the Dems plan is to increase the number of US citizens who are dependent on the government, right? The dems just love the families with multiple generations who have never ever had a job or graduated from high school, with Grandpa, Grandma, Mom, Dad, & a few kids all living in a 3 room apartment who are all on welfare & food stamps. Actually scratch the Dad...no one knows who it is & he isn't around. These Families love the dems too.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Wow. Missed that gem.


Just kill those families and we'll ALL be a lot better off


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So, we are in agreement that 'Dat Lubbee Smit' is an arrogant douche but it's just that Scorehead shouldn't be the one to point it out?

Yes.

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I agree that Lovie is arrogant in his treatment of the press and the fans.


Is there an NFL coach that is not arrogant?

During their regular press conferences on a routine basis?

Mike Smith
Marvin Lewis
Jason Garrett
Romeo Crennel
Leslie Frazier
Andy Reid

That's just off the top of my head. Even some of the all-time pricks like Pete Carroll and don't regularly belittle the press that is assigned to follow them, do they?

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Certainly you would acknowledge that the Dems plan is to increase the number of US citizens who are dependent on the government, right? The dems just love the families with multiple generations who have never ever had a job or graduated from high school, with Grandpa, Grandma, Mom, Dad, & a few kids all living in a 3 room apartment who are all on welfare & food stamps. Actually scratch the Dad...no one knows who it is & he isn't around. These Families love the dems too.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

He'll probably say that he was misquoted.

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So, we are in agreement that 'Dat Lubbee Smit' is an arrogant douche but it's just that Scorehead shouldn't be the one to point it out?

Yes.

If you agree that he's right, but you don't like him for personal reasons... who is really being intolerant here?

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Even some of the all-time pricks like Pete Carroll and don't regularly belittle the press that is assigned to follow them, do they?
In a room full of guys like Mulligan, Holmes, Zaidman, Hub, etc...do you really expect Lovie to be friendly?

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Darkside wrote:
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So, we are in agreement that 'Dat Lubbee Smit' is an arrogant douche but it's just that Scorehead shouldn't be the one to point it out?

Yes.

If you agree that he's right, but you don't like him for personal reasons... who is really being intolerant here?

Ill take that one as if you were addressing me.


I dont want David Duke's opinion on race relations. He might be right, but I wont know or care.


Obviously Im exaggerating but you understand the point.

I also would not want Hawk Harrelson's thoughts on umpires or Jesse Jackson's thoughts on Jewish New Yorkers


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Even some of the all-time pricks like Pete Carroll and don't regularly belittle the press that is assigned to follow them, do they?
In a room full of guys like Mulligan, Holmes, Zaidman, Hub, etc...do you really expect Lovie to be friendly?

Good point. It's a tall order......( and you forgot Biggsy and Grobber :lol: )



.....but somehow many, many other people manage to do it.

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spanky wrote:
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I agree that Lovie is arrogant in his treatment of the press and the fans.


Is there an NFL coach that is not arrogant?

During their regular press conferences on a routine basis?

Mike Smith
Marvin Lewis
Jason Garrett
Romeo Crennel
Leslie Frazier
Andy Reid

That's just off the top of my head. Even some of the all-time pricks like Pete Carroll and don't regularly belittle the press that is assigned to follow them, do they?

Ill bet fans in other cities would put Lovie on the same list.

Its one of those things where you dont notice unless you are watching constantly


I file it under "who cares" personally


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Darkside wrote:
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So, we are in agreement that 'Dat Lubbee Smit' is an arrogant douche but it's just that Scorehead shouldn't be the one to point it out?

Yes.

If you agree that he's right, but you don't like him for personal reasons... who is really being intolerant here?

Um, to re-state my original premise:

Scorehead's assessment of Lovie is correct, but such a statement coming from Scorehead is laughably hypocritical on his part.

Or are you arguing just to argue here?

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If you agree that he's right, but you don't like him for personal reasons... who is really being intolerant here?


If you agree with his stated basic premise, but completely disagree with the (primary likely/believed) methodology & inspiration behind his premise, it isn't intolerance.

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Certainly you would acknowledge that the Dems plan is to increase the number of US citizens who are dependent on the government, right? The dems just love the families with multiple generations who have never ever had a job or graduated from high school, with Grandpa, Grandma, Mom, Dad, & a few kids all living in a 3 room apartment who are all on welfare & food stamps. Actually scratch the Dad...no one knows who it is & he isn't around. These Families love the dems too.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Wow. Missed that gem.


Just kill those families and we'll ALL be a lot better off


So is it that you don't believe that this situation exists, or that you don't like the fact that I said it?
Surely you know that for many neighborhoods in the city, there are numerous Families in this situation.

Maybe your right...maybe we should just continue to ignore it & not say anything.
Fuck it, just keep giving everyone free stuff!!! Yea!!!

Oh yea...Lovie Smith is a prick.

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Ok. I just think that when it comes to that kind of stuff that we should be better than the guy we don't like that's all. I mean, I don't like a certain dude here at all for personal reasons but when he's right, or I agree with him, I'll give him props.
I understand where he's coming from I guess. I wouldn't agree with the mindset though.

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Ill bet fans in other cities would put Lovie on the same list.



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Or are you arguing just to argue here?

Just asking a question. I didn't see it as an argument at all.

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Its a Monday press conference. I'm sure he hates it (as do a lot of other coaches) and he would only talk to the media like that after games.

I really don't care either way. He's an ass, so take him for what he is. I laugh at his statements, generally. I couldn't care less how he talks to the reporters so long as the Bears win.


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As much as you would love to bury your head in the sand, I'm sure Batavia has their share of this as well.

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From the outside looking in, and in all seriousness, I find Lovie to be a pretty cool dude.


Given that I actually like him much more now than I did on his first day, I generally agree with this.

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Even some of the all-time pricks like Pete Carroll and don't regularly belittle the press that is assigned to follow them, do they?
In a room full of guys like Mulligan, Holmes, Zaidman, Hub, etc...do you really expect Lovie to be friendly?


The reporters you mentioned are always nice to Lovie. None of these guys has gone off on him or called him out. Actually, I miss the days when there were reporters who had the balls to call a coach out.

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The reporters you mentioned are always nice to Lovie. None of these guys has gone off on him or called him out.
:lol: So Lovie acts like a jerk to a bunch of pussy reporters. What's the big deal?

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If you agree that he's right, but you don't like him for personal reasons... who is really being intolerant here?


If you agree with his stated basic premise, but completely disagree with the (primary likely/believed) methodology & inspiration behind his premise, it isn't intolerance.

I see. So you agree with his conclusion, but don't think disregarding his opinion based on who he is is intolerant because of assumptions you've made on his methodology, even though he did state his thought process in reaching that conclusion?
I find that interesting. Thanks for answering. I'll see myself out now. Didn't particularly care about this much... just found the posts interesting.

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Certainly you would acknowledge that the Dems plan is to increase the number of US citizens who are dependent on the government, right? The dems just love the families with multiple generations who have never ever had a job or graduated from high school, with Grandpa, Grandma, Mom, Dad, & a few kids all living in a 3 room apartment who are all on welfare & food stamps. Actually scratch the Dad...no one knows who it is & he isn't around. These Families love the dems too.

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Wow. Missed that gem.


Just kill those families and we'll ALL be a lot better off


So is it that you don't believe that this situation exists, or that you don't like the fact that I said it?
Surely you know that for many neighborhoods in the city, there are numerous Families in this situation.


No. I dont think there are many families that have gone generations without a job or HS diploma.

I also dont know why you have a problem with Dems loving "those people"

How should they feel about "those people"? Hate them?


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I like Lovie. I think the man wins games. He wins the respect of his players.

He owes NOTHING to reporters. So if he cops a bit of a tude with them I'm cool with it... just like I would be/was when Ditka was basically a cock to everyone all the damn time, and the fans ate it up.

I don't get it... he's given shit for being too mellow, then for being a twat. Well which the fuck is it?

I will say what I think his biggest weakness is in my opinion. His fucking staff. With the exception of Dave Toub, his choices of coaches have been questionable at best. Shitty to have let Rivera go, and since then, I don't think he's hired a good coach yet. It shows in his sickly offense.

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Uh, KS?

Yeah, SomeGuy?

Strange things are afoot at the CFSMB.


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Uh...

Tice was/is a good Oline coach (As Ocoord, obviously it remains to be seen)
Marinelli is a good defensive coach


Martz, Babich, Turner, etc weren't the best but he's had some decent coaches here under him.

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