I'm not going to argue over two players that would be DFA'd, or a 25th guy on a World Series roster. Colvin is putting a nice season together, and Stewart has been bad to awful.

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I understood why they made the trade, but I was a big Colvin fan. He'll certainly flourish up in Colorado, but he's not getting the majority of AB's. He'd be a near league leader in OBP if he had enough AB's.

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I always liked Colvin's power potential. Quade let him rot on the bench.

He was bad last year but its also true that Quade kept fucking with his AB's. They probably jumped the gun by trading him for an awful Stewart. If he was putting up decent numbers this year then they could have traded him for something of use. I really don't think the outfield is going to be an issue for the Cubs for the next decade once they get the kids up.

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I agree they are starting to stockpile some talent but Colvin instead of DeJesus would have kept with the young talent theme. And the great Hendry did not step in and tell Quade to play Colvin either, which was stupid.


Oh well.

The plan is to tank and Stewart is the worst 3rd baseman you can find.

It's not just that I think that Colvin is playing over his head right now, I also think that a change of scenery was needed for him. Lest we forget that he got IMPALED after he properly got going and got regular at bats under lou.... and by the time he came back from the impalement he was platooned out there and like, when you've got a high draft pick (1st round 13th pick i believe) who you, presumably, want to become some sort of a franchise type player.... you can't platoon the guy. either commit to major league at bats for him for no less than ~200 at bats or get him back to AAA cuz those type of talents need to be playing every day.

Colvin is benefitting from playing in Colorado and being an afterthought in a lineup that features Carlos Gonzalez. I can't claim Tulo because he's gotten ridiculously hot whilst Tulo was on the DL, still tho, I think Colvin is due to face some serious adjustments after the ASB (as you figure GOOD coaching staffs are using the time off to get ahead of the game in terms of advance/scouting) and i'll be really surprised if he keeps this up after these adjustments are made.

At the time the trade seemed equitable because both Stewart and Colvin were bigtime pedigree high draft picks gone horribly wrong, granted Stewart's failure was far more prolonged and almost exclusively at the major league level, however at hte time of the trade he HAD hit 27HR in a season so he had done more than colvin.... obviously if theo and pals had any idea that colvin would do this they wouldn't have made the trade (because, you know, starting joe mather or jeff baker in RF is just BAD BAD BAD BAD BAD </piersall> --- even if you're tanking the season, you try to do it with kids who could be a part of your future someday... not with middling veterans. I mean there's ABSOLTUELY NO CORRELATION WHATSOEVER THAT JOE MATHER BATTED LEADOFF DURING THE CUBS' 17-1 LOSS TO THE NEW YORK METS!oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

anyways, i genuinely feel bad for ian stewart because he's a man of god to the point where he has bible scripture tattoos on his forearm... and like, while he means well, i can't help but think it's IN HIS HEAD IN HIS HEEEEEAAAADDDDD ZOMBIE ZOMBIE ZOM-BEEEEEEE-UHHHH-UHHHH-UHHHHHHHH cuz like, if he's leaning on religion to the point where it takes up most of his twitter conversations, i think he's relying too much on external factors as opposed to focusing on himself.... and now, even tho stewart's out for the year, luis valbuena is playing like he wants to have a crack at being the 3B next year.

(stats forthcoming)

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If you look at Colvin's splits, he is significantly benefitting from playing at Coors. His BA on the Road is about .280 but at Coors it's like .320. His slugging pct. is about 25% higher at home too. He does still have decent stats on the road, but nothing special. If he were with the Cubs, chances are good that he would be a guy you would be looking to upgrade, not build with. In a couple years when the club is relevant again, there will be better options in the outfield. Was the trade a poor one-yes. Stewart was bad when he wasn't hurt and now he's done for the season. The team would have been better with Colvin for this season and perhaps next as well. But does it really matter long-term??-NO!

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Spiegs hit this one on the head!

You missed a golden opportunity to let this guy take the position. He had a very good first year, yes you wanted much more in year 2 and it was terrible how bad he hit, but after all the4 crap they have tried, you try and let your 1st round picks work out issues! You picked the guy for a reason! Correct?

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Colvin stats:

G 129
AB 390
R 57
H 111
2B 23
3B 9
HR 18
RBI 68
BB 21
K 109
SB 7
CS 3
AVG .285
OBP .324
SLG .528
OPS .852


Thanks alot Quade for fucking up this guy's Cub career.

This was a fucking awful trade. Its not like Colvin or DJ were regarded as parts of the future but the pile of shit Theo got back in return is terrible.

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Yes I was one of the few that said this trade and the Marshall trade did not garner the Cub enough of a return. The blind faithful of course see it differently, but it was obvious Colvin had legit power and he is still young.

Instead they got DeJesus for what, 8M for 2 years? Decent player but Colvin could easily hit 20+ each year for the next 5-7 years.

Stupid trade and very stupid of the Great Mike "I am still unemployed" Quade.

I'm fine with the other trade because I really like Travis Wood and having an elite bullpen arm on a shit team makes little sense.

Quade did fuck over Colvin and I am surprised the new regime didn't at least give him a chance before dumping him.

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Agreed on both counts.

Why trade Colvin low when the team was going to be shit anyway.

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Wood may develop into more than a #4 starter but I felt they could have got better talent for one of the premier LH relievers in baseball.

I am not sure they shopped Marshall enough. That trade went down awful quick.

Stewart is useless. Trading a blank Vhs tape for him is lopsided. Colvin may have a year or two of productivity but Stewart is already down the toilet at a much higher price. Couldn't hit couldn't field. Hope he does not show up again.

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I hear Stewart has not done the rehab the Cubs wanted him to do and that he left the ballclub awhile ago.

A complete waste.

Plus DJ LaMahieu is a decent utility guy too.

Shit trade.

Tyler Colvin 2012 road splits:

.238/.271/.404

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Git on back there.

UMN had a few comments for some time on Theo's first trade of Colvin, LeMahieu for Stewart and Weathers.

Thought this was a good article discussing where the new Rockies are versus what WCUB received. So Stewart went awol...

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/15383196 ... ckies.html
Ex-Cubs Tyler Colvin, DL LeMahieu have caught on with Rockies
...Colvin and LeMahieu were in the Rockies’ lineup Tuesday night against the Cubs, both having seasons that have put them in the Rockies’ plans for next year.

Along the way, Weathers disappeared in the Cubs’ system, and Stewart — well, unless you follow him on Twitter, it’s hard to tell. As Cubs manager Dale Sveum said a few weeks ago, ‘‘I’ve kind of lost track of him.’’

So much for the first trade of the Theo Epstein era. Whatever else the Cubs’ new regime does in the next few years, this upside-for-upside, change-of-scenery trade was a whiff for the Cubs....

...LeMahieu has helped the Rockies’ infield cover for the injury absence of shortstop Troy Tulowitzki by taking over at second base. He’s hitting .288 after his second three-hit game in three days Tuesday as he and Colvin combined to go 5-for-7 with three RBI and 10 total bases in the Rockies’ 10-5, rain-shortened victory over the Cubs.

Rockies manager Jim Tracy calls LeMahieu a ‘‘terrific defender at second base’’ and looks at his 6-3 frame with an eye on pull-hitting power potential he hopes to see develop with experience — a missing ingredient in LeMahieu’s hitting form that was part of the Cubs’ willingness to part with him.

‘‘He’s a winning player,’’ Tracy said. ‘‘He’s a winning piece on a championship-caliber club, and that’s what we’re obviously working [toward] right now.’’

Colvin, whose 20-homer rookie season was followed last year by a .150, six-homer backpedal, was the bigger part of the Rockies’ side of the trade and has made the most of his change of scenery. He entered Tuesday hitting .285 with 49 extra-base hits and tripled home two runs in the third inning to reach 70 RBI in 391 at-bats...

...A change of scenery didn’t come close to having the same effect on Stewart, whom Tracy still lauded for ‘‘through the roof’’ potential.

On the other hand, one Rockies official said he was not surprised to learn that Stewart (.201, five homers) made himself scarce once he had midseason wrist surgery, spending more time tweeting from home about USC football and professional wrestling than communicating with team officials...

WOW,That Stewart sounds like a real class act. Let's face it,nobody was crying when they traded Colvin but at least I was confused why they unloaded LeMahieu.

.288 looks a hell of a lot better than whatever the Cubs 3rd baseman is hitting. So I would be curious how Theo explains getting screwed on this trade.

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You really have to wonder what the thinking was behind this trade. Not only did they give up on 2 young players in Colvin and LeMahieu to get nothing in return they also let Ryan Flaherty go in the rule 5 draft. Flaherty hasn't lit the world on fire in limited playing time for the O's but it would have been nice to find out what he could do playing everyday at 3B instead of the Valbuena/Vitters debacle.

I think they outsmarted themselves with these 3 guys, thinking they knew best. They clearly were wrong.

At least they didn't blow it on Rizzo.

I believe it was a fascination with Stewart more than non belief in Colvin or DJ


They thought Stewart was undervalued. Guess they were wrong.

Sounds right. Wonder if they will be able to pull him off the twitter long enough to have a decent season next year. My guess is they still expect him to be the starter next year.

diagnosed him with a possible impingement between bones in his left hand

Sounds painful

Is that his twitter hand?