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PostPosted: Sat Oct 06, 2012 8:39 pm 
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Went to see it today,was very glad I did. Gordon-Levit does a real good job playing a badass. Bruce does a really low key performance. Teh time trvel stuff is well explained and he world it inhabits is really cool and interesting. I was a little confused at the ending though. I am going to have to re watch it and see if it gets a little more clear.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 4:38 pm 
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Good movie but I agree...ending is a head scratcher...


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Good movie but I agree...ending is a head scratcher...


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I took it as Young Joe saw the "loop" and how it was going to impact Cid, he then saw that it was a loop similar to his own beginnings. With Cids power and the warnings from the future about the Rainmaker, Joe just decided to close his own loop and let Cid have a shot with his loving mother.


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I got that part of it SomeGuy. Just...other things didnt...


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 Post subject: Re: Looper
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I got that part of it SomeGuy. Just...other things didnt...


What "other things?????"

Start making sense, dude!!!!!


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SomeGuy wrote:
lipidquadcab wrote:
Good movie but I agree...ending is a head scratcher...


***POSSIBLE SPOILERS SO DON'T READ IT AND WHINE LIKE A LITTLE BITCH. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED.***








I took it as Young Joe saw the "loop" and how it was going to impact Cid, he then saw that it was a loop similar to his own beginnings. With Cids power and the warnings from the future about the Rainmaker, Joe just decided to close his own loop and let Cid have a shot with his loving mother.


All kinds off difference with "the future". That is why they wanted to keep young Seth alive when he was on the operating table. Instead of just likking him. There was also missing the backstory of Sid's mom. She had a recent past in the city and knew of the loopers by Joe's gun.

It did not take away from the film and glad it was only 2 hours even. I did not need another 45 minutes of fleshing out the characters to make it a good movie.

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lipidquadcab wrote:
I got that part of it SomeGuy. Just...other things didnt...


What "other things?????"

Start making sense, dude!!!!!

Spoilers below, obviously...mouseover at your own risk...

I had one huge issue with the way the endgame played out and another with something that was somewhat inferred that made little to no sense...

FIrst, at the end we have young guy killing himself to keep old guy from killing the Rainmaker. Problem is, if the whole reason the little one loses it and becomes the rainmaker is because his mother is killed by old guy, then none of it would have ever happened.

Old guy goes back in time to kill the rainmaker...so in the original timeline he was in, the young kid's mother wasn't killed by him. Now, maybe something else set him off and caused him to become the Rainmaker, but if that is the logic you want to use, then how does young guy sacrificing himself to save the kid's mother guarantee something else won't lead him to evil?

The thing I thought was inferred was that JGL/Bruce's character had some connection to the young kid. My first thought ran to them all being the same person at different stages (though that makes absolutely no sense...but the thing with the mother running her fingers through the kids hair at the end I thought inferred this, at least somewhat)


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 Post subject: Re: Looper
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Once old guy came back to the farm in the little car saying FTFY, young Joe knew he was still screwed and would not live the life old Joe had lived. All the gold bars in the world would not buy off security.

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 Post subject: Re: Looper
PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:45 am 
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lipidquadcab wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
lipidquadcab wrote:
I got that part of it SomeGuy. Just...other things didnt...


What "other things?????"

Start making sense, dude!!!!!

Spoilers below, obviously...mouseover at your own risk...

I had one huge issue with the way the endgame played out and another with something that was somewhat inferred that made little to no sense...

FIrst, at the end we have young guy killing himself to keep old guy from killing the Rainmaker. Problem is, if the whole reason the little one loses it and becomes the rainmaker is because his mother is killed by old guy, then none of it would have ever happened.

Old guy goes back in time to kill the rainmaker...so in the original timeline he was in, the young kid's mother wasn't killed by him. Now, maybe something else set him off and caused him to become the Rainmaker, but if that is the logic you want to use, then how does young guy sacrificing himself to save the kid's mother guarantee something else won't lead him to evil?

The thing I thought was inferred was that JGL/Bruce's character had some connection to the young kid. My first thought ran to them all being the same person at different stages (though that makes absolutely no sense...but the thing with the mother running her fingers through the kids hair at the end I thought inferred this, at least somewhat)

The T2 dilemma.

Just can't think about time travel movies too much, otherwise they never make any sense. I liked the movie though. It was solid.

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lipidquadcab wrote:
SomeGuy wrote:
lipidquadcab wrote:
I got that part of it SomeGuy. Just...other things didnt...


What "other things?????"

Start making sense, dude!!!!!

Spoilers below, obviously...mouseover at your own risk...

I had one huge issue with the way the endgame played out and another with something that was somewhat inferred that made little to no sense...

FIrst, at the end we have young guy killing himself to keep old guy from killing the Rainmaker. Problem is, if the whole reason the little one loses it and becomes the rainmaker is because his mother is killed by old guy, then none of it would have ever happened.

Old guy goes back in time to kill the rainmaker...so in the original timeline he was in, the young kid's mother wasn't killed by him. Now, maybe something else set him off and caused him to become the Rainmaker, but if that is the logic you want to use, then how does young guy sacrificing himself to save the kid's mother guarantee something else won't lead him to evil?

The thing I thought was inferred was that JGL/Bruce's character had some connection to the young kid. My first thought ran to them all being the same person at different stages (though that makes absolutely no sense...but the thing with the mother running her fingers through the kids hair at the end I thought inferred this, at least somewhat)


SPOILERS BELOW! HIGHLIGHT ONLY IF YOU'RE A REAL MAN.

Old Joe had said his own memories being "cloudy" because they were just a jumble of things that may or may not happen and they only become clear when the eventuality is reached. You could see this happening when he was in the sewer trying to keep the memory of his wife in his head, he had seen the face of Young Joe's Sara and knew that if Young Joe went forward with this he (Old Joe) would lose his life and the memory of his wife as well.

So my guess would be that Young Joe killing himself would let the mother, who had just shown she could calm/control Cid, live and give Cid an actual chance at growing up and not becoming the Rainmaker. Again, nothing is guaranteed but Young Joe believes that this would narrow down the possibilities. Also, Young Joe heard from Seth that the Rainmaker saw his mother dies, had a busted up/scared jaw and took out the 5 Syndicates all by himself. It adds up, I guess.

But again, Old Joe simply said that "time travel is messy."


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 Post subject: Re: Looper
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:20 am 
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Saw it tonight. It was okay. Definitely not as good as the critics say. Had a good premise, but then the just through in a bunch of pointless plot points and rehashed old scifi/horror plots from T2, Carrie, Total Recall, and the Omen.

A much better story could easily have been written given the premise. It was a big let down. JGL was good and they did a good job of making him look like a young Bruce Willis. I don't know why Piper Perabo was in this movie. I don't know why we saw her naked. I don't know why she hasn't gotten a boob job.

Overall, its worth a rental, but not much else.


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 Post subject: Re: Looper
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:54 pm 
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yeah, really, about a third of this movie is pointless. people comparing it to "moon" were on something. it's an OK movie but this guy's made much, much better films, like "Brick".

i think a lot of movies are getting passes these days for just not being remakes or reboots that people are missing out that they're still not very good films.


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 Post subject: Re: Looper
PostPosted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:49 pm 
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I thought the movie was pretty damn good.

But then again I'm not an expert movie watcher so what do I know.


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