A guy who is ranked no better than 20th in all major qb statistical categories is not going to be mentioned anywhere near the mvp discussion regardless of team (defensive) success.

Laurence Holmes is a fucking weirdo, a nerd in denial, and a wannabe. Not a very good radio host either.

Im pretty hammered right now.

I will strip punch your nutsack.

Chicago Bears cornerback Charles Tillman is getting some national recognition for his lockdown performance Monday night against the Detroit Lions. Not only has the NFL named him its NFC defensive player of the week, but ESPN.com's Mike Sando has included Tillman for the first time in his weekly MVP Watch post.

The chances of a cornerback winning the MVP, Tillman or anyone else, are remote. And we've already noted on several occasions how well fellow Bears cornerback Tim Jennings is playing. But the Bears know their personnel best. And when it came time to match someone on the Lions' Calvin Johnson, there was no hesitation who that would be.

Tillman got some help from the Bears' safeties, of course, but in the end Johnson caught only three of the 11 passes the Lions threw his way. It was only the third time in 24 games that Johnson had been held under four catches. Tillman also forced another two fumbles, bringing his total to three during a season in which he also has two interception returns for touchdowns.

You could make an argument for several Bears defenders in this context, including Jennings and linebacker Lance Briggs. No one stands out dramatically from the others. But I'm glad to see that people are realizing, albeit late in his career, that Tillman is one of the NFL's top defenders.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

If you hate Laurence, then don't listen - don't comment. When he co-hosts the B&B show, take that day off ... listen to an old podcast of a Bernstein solo show and jerk off all day.

Overall he isnt that great, he punches the ball out. Way to go. Where else could they find someone else to fly in after blowing their coverage and punch at a ball while 2 other guys make a tackle.

It's more fun to be a victim

There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.

He isn't an MVP, but he's not as mediocre as you make him sound either.

If you hate Laurence, then don't listen - don't comment. When he co-hosts the B&B show, take that day off ... listen to an old podcast of a Bernstein solo show and jerk off all day.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

The same thing happened last season. Everyone was licking his balls after a game against the Lions and then he went back to being just a guy again.

Did I hear Boers correctly yesterday? I thought he asked Hub if Eli currently was the best QB in the league...to which Hub seemingly agreed.

He's in the conversation. He just has too many bad games. He's not as consistently great as Rodgers, Brees, or Brady. Still, it's not a crazy thought.

I believe Eli OWNS Brady.

Oh for fuck's sake.

He's in the conversation. He just has too many bad games. He's not as consistently great as Rodgers, Brees, or Brady. Still, it's not a crazy thought.

It is crazy to say he is 1st (IMO) because it's really not that close.
Eli
Completion: 63.8% (12th)
TD/Int: 12/7 (7th total TDs)
QB Rating: 92.5 (10th)

ARod
Completion: 69.8% (2nd)
TD/Int: 19/4 (1st)
QB Rating: 109.6 (1st)