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I didnt hear exactly what he said, but it sounds like he said something about "Better planning" ? As in dont have kids during the season and the "I have kids, you don't " crowd came running to the podium with the "I would take off from work"...etc etc..

The difference is that you dont work 16 times a year for millions of dollars.

If I was having a kid and worked 200+ days a year, as a normal job for $00K a year, no doubt I leave the job for the birth of my kid.

I know the PC answer is that Tillman should go attend the birth, but lets ask this question. if it was the Super Bowl, would Tillman miss that game for the birth of his child????

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 Post subject: Re: Florio
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So, was Florio saying that Tillman should have planned the pregnancy/birth timing better?

If so - is he an idiot? There are people that try for years and years and years and never get pregnant. There are people who seemingly try once, BAM! Baby.

I've never met anyone that has ever planned to, and therefore successfully "planned" when they will have a baby.

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So, was Florio saying that Tillman should have planned the pregnancy/birth timing better?

If so - is he an idiot? There are people that try for years and years and years and never get pregnant. There are people who seemingly try once, BAM! Baby.

I've never met anyone that has ever planned to, and therefore successfully "planned" when they will have a baby.

Essentially yes thats what he said. You know what months your season is in and approx how long it will run, take some measures to ensure you wont be missing time during those months for something that is preventable. This will be Tillman's 4th child as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Florio
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So, was Florio saying that Tillman should have planned the pregnancy/birth timing better?

If so - is he an idiot? There are people that try for years and years and years and never get pregnant. There are people who seemingly try once, BAM! Baby.

I've never met anyone that has ever planned to, and therefore successfully "planned" when they will have a baby.


What does the fact that other people cant get pregnant have to do with his poor planning?

once again, I ask if this was the Super Bowl, does he play if the wife goes into Labor at 3 PM? I think so

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I've never met anyone that has ever planned to, and therefore successfully "planned" when they will have a baby.


My wife was working in a school when we had my daughter. We planned it out so it would be a summer birth, so as not to disrupt my wife's work schedule. The math isn't really that hard to decipher.

That said, my daughter was born 5 weeks premature in May...

You can plan for it, but only so much.

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I didnt hear exactly what he said, but it sounds like he said something about "Better planning" ? As in dont have kids during the season and the "I have kids, you don't " crowd came running to the podium with the "I would take off from work"...etc etc..

The difference is that you dont work 16 times a year for millions of dollars.

If I was having a kid and worked 200+ days a year, as a normal job for $00K a year, no doubt I leave the job for the birth of my kid.

I know the PC answer is that Tillman should go attend the birth, but lets ask this question. if it was the Super Bowl, would Tillman miss that game for the birth of his child????


100% Agreed.

And his 16 times a year statement is being taken out of context. No one would suggest he shouldn't miss a practice, a minicamp, or some random workout. But as a million dollar per-year professional, he has 16 performances a year that he should attend.

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 Post subject: Re: Florio
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Charles' daughter Tiana was born needing a heart transplant, which she got. It changes one's priorities. Considering what was happening for Tillman 9 months ago (Honolulu) and that he performs one day a week, I think some thought or planning went into this.

As a father of a daughter who is a transplant recipient (kidney) I hope all goes well and that mothers and baby will be fine. As a Bears fan I hope the birth will come Friday or Tuesday.


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I'm surprised they aren't inducing labor on Friday.

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I'm surprised they aren't inducing labor on Friday.


BINGO

but I need to know if you have kids first to qualify your statement

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Gonna be the Bears Monday to end all Bears Mondays if Houston wins by exploiting a sans-Tillman secondary. Gird yr loins.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I'm surprised they aren't inducing labor on Friday.


BINGO

but I need to know if you have kids first to qualify your statement
I don't have kids, but if I did I would spend the day of their birth playing football.

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 Post subject: Re: Florio
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Well then we all know you are wrong. because "You dont have kids so you cant comment on it"

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 Post subject: Re: Florio
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I'm surprised they aren't inducing labor on Friday.


BINGO

but I need to know if you have kids first to qualify your statement



This is the way I saw it. And some of the other sports stuff I heard on radio doesn't fit. With all the other major sports having 162 or 82 games missing 1/16th is more of an impact.

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 Post subject: Re: Florio
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pittmike wrote:
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
I'm surprised they aren't inducing labor on Friday.


BINGO

but I need to know if you have kids first to qualify your statement



This is the way I saw it. And some of the other sports stuff I heard on radio doesn't fit. With all the other major sports having 162 or 82 games missing 1/16th is more of an impact.


Doctors regularly induce so that the child is not born on a weekend. I really don't understand the issue from Peanut's perspective.

If you want things to happen naturally go out in the field and have some town elder act as a mid wife. See how much you like naturally.

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He should be able to do whatever the hell he wants, but also not get paid if he doesn't play.

Induced labor isn't all that much fun from what I've observed. Or maybe they should slice her open and take the baby out so that Bears fans aren't inconvenienced. :lol:

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I've never met anyone that has ever planned to, and therefore successfully "planned" when they will have a baby.


My wife was working in a school when we had my daughter. We planned it out so it would be a summer birth, so as not to disrupt my wife's work schedule. The math isn't really that hard to decipher.

I see. So you're on record as saying that couples can reliably plan on when to have a baby.






Of course, you're wrong. But at least you post it openly.

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 Post subject: Re: Florio
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I've never met anyone that has ever planned to, and therefore successfully "planned" when they will have a baby.


My wife was working in a school when we had my daughter. We planned it out so it would be a summer birth, so as not to disrupt my wife's work schedule. The math isn't really that hard to decipher.

I see. So you're on record as saying that couples can reliably plan on when to have a baby.






Of course, you're wrong. But at least you post it openly.

Depends on what you mean by reliably, and how big the window is for "when." If your window is 7 months, yeah, you can pretty fucking reliably manage to hit that window.

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 Post subject: Re: Florio
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Actually, many many people can't.


If it was easy to plan/schedule, why would any husband anywhere ever need to miss work? Every single profession has time off of work. They should all just plan their babies at the right time.


Florio sounds like a guy that's making stupid statement to get some publicity.

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Actually, many many people can't.

Yay, another unqualified term.

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If it was easy to plan/schedule, why would any husband anywhere ever need to miss work? Every single profession has time off of work. They should all just plan their babies at the right time.

Most people do not have a 7 month offseason. It's a big difference trying to hit a 2 week window, and a 7 month window. It's surprising I have to explain this to you.

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Actually, many many people can't.

Yay, another unqualified term.

I must live in a different world.

I know lots and lots of people who have had a hard time getting pregnant, been unable to get pregnant, had "surprise" pregnancies, or other things that would fall into the "weren't able to schedule" their pregnancies.


I for one would like to congratulate Peanut for scheduling all of his other babies at the appropriate times and being able to avoid the scorn of a MITC, MD-OBGYN.

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All this baby talk is just the thinly veiled braggadocio of these guys having sex with their wives.

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Actually, many many people can't.

Yay, another unqualified term.

I must live in a different world.

I know lots and lots of people who have had a hard time getting pregnant, been unable to get pregnant, had "surprise" pregnancies, or other things that would fall into the "weren't able to schedule" their pregnancies.

You know lots of people with 3 kids who struggle to get pregnant? I'm a bit dubious about that.

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Try? Babies just happen.

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I've never met anyone that has ever planned to, and therefore successfully "planned" when they will have a baby.


My wife was working in a school when we had my daughter. We planned it out so it would be a summer birth, so as not to disrupt my wife's work schedule. The math isn't really that hard to decipher.

I see. So you're on record as saying that couples can reliably plan on when to have a baby.






Of course, you're wrong. But at least you post it openly.


:lol:

Of course, you could have read my entire post....idiot.

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MattInTheCrown wrote:
spanky wrote:
MattInTheCrown wrote:
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Actually, many many people can't.

Yay, another unqualified term.

I must live in a different world.

I know lots and lots of people who have had a hard time getting pregnant, been unable to get pregnant, had "surprise" pregnancies, or other things that would fall into the "weren't able to schedule" their pregnancies.

You know lots of people with 3 kids who struggle to get pregnant? I'm a bit dubious about that.


don't put me in the uncomfortable position of having to agree with spanky

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I've never met anyone that has ever planned to, and therefore successfully "planned" when they will have a baby.


My wife was working in a school when we had my daughter. We planned it out so it would be a summer birth, so as not to disrupt my wife's work schedule. The math isn't really that hard to decipher.

I see. So you're on record as saying that couples can reliably plan on when to have a baby.






Of course, you're wrong. But at least you post it openly.


:lol:

Of course, you could have read my entire post....idiot.

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Cool. Name calling.

Your post contradicted itself big time. Yet I managed to respond to it without name calling.

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You know lots of people with 3 kids who struggle to get pregnant? I'm a bit dubious about that.

I know people with multiple kids who have had more problems getting pregnant than anyone else I know.

Weird how the people that end up with twins, triplets, etc are the ones that are the people that had the hardest time getting pregnant. Of course, you probably already considered that.

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You know lots of people with 3 kids who struggle to get pregnant? I'm a bit dubious about that.

I know people with multiple kids who have had more problems getting pregnant than anyone else I know.

Weird how the people that end up with twins, triplets, etc are the ones that are the people that had the hardest time getting pregnant. Of course, you probably already considered that.

As a woman ages, it usually gets a bit harder to conceive.

You better run that by MITC first. He probably disagrees.

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Lots of people with no kids here making assumptions as to when kids should be born and when they shouldn't.

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Cool. Name calling.

Your post contradicted itself big time. Yet I managed to respond to it without name calling.


It's OK spanky. I'll translate your diversion post about being called an idiot into "oh, I didn't read your whole original post and therefore didn't realize that you were actually partially supporting my argument."

We were trying to hit a 3 month window. We would have been successful had there not been complications. Nature can and will interfere with the best of plans.

Is it your position that attempting to hit a 7 month window is unobtainable for "most" people?


EDIT: The above should not be interpreted as me supporting those who say Tillman should play if his wife goes into labor. He should be with his wife.

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