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PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:38 pm 
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Best movie I've seen in a long time. Daniel Day Lewis was outstanding. So was Sally Field. The rest of the cast as well.

I won't give away the ending.


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Just saw this tonight. Was excellent. Obviously heavy on the dialogue, but did a great job providing a portrait of Lincoln during one of the most trying times in US History. DDL was fantastic.

Skipped over the part where he kills vampires. SPOILER ALERT: The boat sinks.


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Lincoln usually doesn't do very well in theaters.

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Frank Coztansa wrote:
Lincoln usually doesn't do very well in theaters.


John Wilkes Booth killed, though.


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Beats a hole in the head.


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How many vampires did he kill?


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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Lincoln usually doesn't do very well in theaters.


John Wilkes Booth killed, though.


Is that where "break a leg" comes from?

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doesn't surprise me that CGS ate this up like ice cream...

this film's a two and a half hour long sermon fed to an audience who comes in already being against slavery...not once does this film have an ounce of credibility on the other side, which is why this country was torn apart. every guy you don't like is easy to dislike; lincoln is basically jesus christ. his only flaw is he's TOO damn genuine!

please. this film had zero conflict. oh sure it had a lot of yelling in it. but after reading "john adams" and seeing the miniseries, this film was absolutely beneath it in its portrayal of history. it's so preachy, so earnest and eager to appease the people that are already going to agree with its principle, that i fail to see the point in it altogether. day-lewis is stoic, but he isn't a character. there is very little of a human touch about him. and sally field is constantly crying, whining, and screaming like she is wringing the Oscar that she is barking to get. and while JGL is a good actor, he was wasted in this totally pointless role as Robert Lincoln.

this movie is like eating too much cotton candy; and even though it's verbose, most of the dialog is absolutely meaningless. lincoln walks in to deliver a speech to anyone who will listen, they'll be touched, and the audience sighs with a heavy heart. the pace is terrible, and kushner's script lacks real drama. there WAS real drama during this period, and there was a lot at stake. nowhere during this film did i feel any of that. just a lot of patting on the back of the "good guys", and finger pointing at the bad guys. notice how just about every bad guy either looks like a weasel, speaks weakly, or is just a raging moron.

it'll get its awards, and people who don't think too deeply about anything will love it. but you will learn nothing about what it actually meant to abolish slavery, and what happened to this country when the two sides were still very split; i saw right through it from the opening scene, which told me one thing:

it's sentimental hogwash.

:D :D out of :D :D :D :D


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:06 pm 
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Always like it when the super smart critics say only stupid people will like things because they are too dumb to understand why it is so bad.


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doesn't surprise me that CGS ate this up like ice cream...

this film's a two and a half hour long sermon fed to an audience who comes in already being against slavery...not once does this film have an ounce of credibility on the other side, which is why this country was torn apart. every guy you don't like is easy to dislike; lincoln is basically jesus christ. his only flaw is he's TOO damn genuine!

please. this film had zero conflict. oh sure it had a lot of yelling in it. but after reading "john adams" and seeing the miniseries, this film was absolutely beneath it in its portrayal of history. it's so preachy, so earnest and eager to appease the people that are already going to agree with its principle, that i fail to see the point in it altogether. day-lewis is stoic, but he isn't a character. there is very little of a human touch about him. and sally field is constantly crying, whining, and screaming like she is wringing the Oscar that she is barking to get. and while JGL is a good actor, he was wasted in this totally pointless role as Robert Lincoln.

this movie is like eating too much cotton candy; and even though it's verbose, most of the dialog is absolutely meaningless. lincoln walks in to deliver a speech to anyone who will listen, they'll be touched, and the audience sighs with a heavy heart. the pace is terrible, and kushner's script lacks real drama. there WAS real drama during this period, and there was a lot at stake. nowhere during this film did i feel any of that. just a lot of patting on the back of the "good guys", and finger pointing at the bad guys. notice how just about every bad guy either looks like a weasel, speaks weakly, or is just a raging moron.

it'll get its awards, and people who don't think too deeply about anything will love it. but you will learn nothing about what it actually meant to abolish slavery, and what happened to this country when the two sides were still very split; i saw right through it from the opening scene, which told me one thing:

it's sentimental hogwash.


Reading that review, it sounds more like a :) out of :D :D :D :D

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i didn't hate all of it, and since some people can't read, i only use the fulll smilies...no halfsies. and it was well shot...

i do think a lot of it was drivel. there were 3 likeable scenes in the whole thing. most of them were when no one was talking.

on a side note, i'm not sure why this was even called "lincoln". it wasn't a biography of his life (like it was originally intended), it should have just been called "the amendment" since that's what it revolved around. this movie could've benefited by taking place years before the civil war even started. i don't care if it would've been an 8 part miniseries or something...that period of history was full of interesting and provocative stuff. but this didn't do any justice to how important that bill was. it basically says all people that were against it were "evil", which is disingenuous. it was ignorance that kept us from moving forward, and that wasn't illustrated in the film.


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Caught this over the weekend. It was a pretty good movie, although pretty damn slow. I actually started to
nod off during the middle of it but rallied to finish. The acting and makeup is really good. Day Lewis does a
very credible job of playing the president but may have been overshadowed by Tommy Lee Jones character.
He could definitely win a best supporting actor Oscar for his performance in my opinion.

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W_Z wrote:
i didn't hate all of it, and since some people can't read, i only use the fulll smilies...no halfsies. and it was well shot...

i do think a lot of it was drivel. there were 3 likeable scenes in the whole thing. most of them were when no one was talking.

on a side note, i'm not sure why this was even called "lincoln". it wasn't a biography of his life (like it was originally intended), it should have just been called "the amendment" since that's what it revolved around. this movie could've benefited by taking place years before the civil war even started. i don't care if it would've been an 8 part miniseries or something...that period of history was full of interesting and provocative stuff. but this didn't do any justice to how important that bill was. it basically says all people that were against it were "evil", which is disingenuous. it was ignorance that kept us from moving forward, and that wasn't illustrated in the film.


My thought as well. The movie should be retitled "13" because it is about the passage of the 13th amendment. Then they could have spent more time on the backround of the horse traders from new york who were attempting to garner the votes.

I don't think it showed the non supporters as evil. There were perfectly logical reasons for not wanting the bill if you could get around the dehumanization of 4 million people. If you believed they weren't entirely human, which was a not so unique opinion at the time, the vote was justifiable.

If Lincoln was as he was portrayed, it must have sucked to try to have a brief but important conversation with him. I could understand why his secretary of war ran out of the room as he began a story while they were directing a battle. My father in law is like this and I frequently find myself trying to push him to his point so we can move on.

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