I think the broken home/single parent home thing is a faulty statistic. I think it is much more about poverty and in a lot of cases single parent home leads itself to less income. I dont think being raised just by a mother or father is inherently a bad thing.

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I think it's the combination of a lot of individual factors more than the factors themselves.

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Below is a blurb from a Justice Dept. survey of prisoners.

The survey also showed that a
substantial number of jail inmates were
unemployed, grew up in single-parent homes,
were children of substance-abusing parents or
guardians or were sexually or physically
abused themselves.

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I know this may be crude, but it kind of annoys me when I hear that these gangs are filled with people who were just hungry or wanted to escape the poor family situations they are in. That could be true, but it doesn't explain why many gangs are so violent and greedy that they'll kill each other and innocent bystanders to control a street corner that makes them a lot of money. If the goal of these young kids was to simply be able to afford food and clothing then where does the greed come from in gangs?

It's always interesting to hear the stories about how many of these gangs started. It was often a collection of youth who claimed they just wanted a small piece of the pie and wanted to get out of bad situations. Those same people then find a way to make millions of dollars and things get more violent. If the goal was really to simply sustain themselves that wouldn't happen.

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But that is how they always start out. Groups of people who are on the bottom of the societal rung band together for protection and a sense of belonging.

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So then what changes?

Wouldn't they actually get less violent once they achieved the goals they had?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Maybe not. You have more to lose at that point.

How do you fix it?

Power corrupts.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely. Lord Acton

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I don't know what changes.

I'd imagine it's a combination of greed and wanting to protect the "family". And some are just evil people.

It's a pattern that has been repeated forever, be it Irish, Italian, Jewish, Chinese, Black, or Hispanic.

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Which indicates to me that the initial decision to join a gang is done to get rich, not to get "not poor".

You'd think there would be a gang out there that says "Join up, put in your 3 or 4 years, and then move on with your life, go to college or invest your money in a business" and people would be lining up for it.

Instead, all gangs seem to be a "join until you die" type of enterprise.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Again, I think it has more to do initially with belonging and having a family.

Then of course it becomes about greed. That's human nature.

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I would think once you've had a taste of the cash it's pretty hard to go back on the straight-and-narrow, working a fast food job or something similar. The mind can rationalize away a lot of shit.

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Reality is your friend, not your enemy. -- Seacrest

Nobody regardless of race, color, or creed wants to live a life of violence where one has a good chance of killing or being killed every single day. As Peeps correctly points out, each group of immigrants has to kick, gouge, and scratch for its fair share of the American Dream. That often included violence for the first generations as they struggled to build a better life for their children against an establishment that viewed them with suspicion or even outright hatred.

The difference with blacks is that the vast majority of black Americans are not descended from immigrants and they lack the same type of legacy the other groups have. These are descendants of people who were brought to these shores against their will to help build a better life for others rather than themselves. Obviously, that's something that has proven very difficult to shake, as you can see blacks being "passed" by recent immigrants, particularly Hispanics.

You don't need to point a gun at anyone when mayors are handing you no-bid contracts.

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Ecclesiastes 5:8

Any thought given to their life, what they are doing to those around them, things they do or support, hatred?

I would guess they rationalize it by thinking they are protecting what's theirs from other people who want to take it and break up their family.

But that's pure speculation on my part.

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Hard not to argue...



Jerk.

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God
Family
Education
Economics

In that order. The same things that our threatening our society have been doing the same to others societies for centuries.

A child that is raised with a sense of self, in a loving home while being taught to respect others, doesn't really have a need for gangs or excess material wealth.

When you value comes from material persons rather than your dignity as a person, problems arise and grow at an alarming rate.

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Why wouldn't it be about greed at the start though? That's what I don't get. It's a romantic notion that someone joins a gang because they lack basic needs, but given how greedy virtually all gangs are, I don't really think it's filled with people who just wanted to buy food, but after joining, then decided they wanted to be rich.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

The problem is that once they build a better life, they still choose a life of violence and crime, and many of them become second or third generation members.

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Seems like a pretty good reason to crackdown on these fuck bags. This fills the story out a little better as to the reasoning behind it.


Tough talk from Rahm on cop crackdowns at gang funerals


Gang funerals in Chicago will be treated like “gang events” — with pat-downs and police muscle — because gang leaders have shown “no respect” for neighborhoods where those funerals take place, Mayor Rahm Emanuel said Wednesday.

One day after Chicago Police officers showed up in force at a gang funeral, Emanuel warned gang leaders to get used to it. Gang funerals will no longer be treated as sacred events.

“Where there’s a gang funeral — given that they have shown no respect for a place of worship — we’re going change how they’re going to operate. The Police Department is going to change the way they deal with gang funerals,” the mayor said.

This year, many of those gang funeral processions have ended at Mount Hope Cemetery on the outskirts of the Southwest Side. Residents are fed up with cars weaving in and out of the processions and calls of shots being fired.

A source in the Morgan Park District on the Southwest Side estimated five to 10 of the district’s squad cars are assigned to each gang funeral, representing up to 30 percent of the available police vehicles in the district.

The source estimated at least one gang funeral a week has rolled through the district for the last several months.


Other districts, as well as Chicago Police gang units, the Cook County sheriff’s office and other departments also provide officers to monitor gang funerals, the source said.

“They’re tying up resources left and right,” the source said of the gang funerals.

Still, Ald. Matt O’Shea (19th) applauded the mayor’s decision to get tough on them. Mount Hope, at 115th and Fairfield, is ground zero for the problems, he said.

“We’ve had shots fired into the air. Offenders fleeing police and throwing loaded guns out of cars. High-speed chases down our side streets. We’ve had altercations where people attending gang funerals have verbally assaulted residents,” O’Shea said.

“What these gangbangers are doing is inexcusable,” he said. “It’s got to stop to protect the residents of my community.”

Last week, a gunman fatally shot a reputed gang member on the steps of a South Side church after a funeral for another man. The brazen act of violence was shocking, even by Chicago standards.

Determined to avoid a repeat, dozens of officers, some armed with assault rifles, were assigned to monitor Tuesday’s funeral of Sherman Miller, last week’s murder victim.

The Chicago Sun-Times reported that officers watched from a distance as Miller’s associates flashed gang signs and danced to rap music blaring from their cars in the church parking lot.

When the funeral ended, officers ordered them to leave. Some argued with police before they drove away.

A police helicopter was on stand-by to escort the funeral procession to the cemetery and watch for illegal conduct, but the burial was canceled because Miller’s family was apparently unable to pay the bill.

There were police cars from several departments waiting near Mount Hope Cemetery before the procession was called off, a source said.

Emanuel unleashed his anger about the behavior at gang funerals after voicing his frustration that the number of murders and shootings in Chicago is rising while overall crime is down roughly 10 percent this year.

The mayor made it clear he’s not losing faith in police Supt. Garry McCarthy or his crime-fighting strategies. McCarthy’s continued shake-up of district commanders — with 19 of 23 now replaced under his watch — is aimed at reducing shootings, the mayor said.

McCarthy recently put new commanders in the Central, Deering, Monroe and Lincoln districts. The spike in gang violence in the Deering District was such a priority, McCarthy shifted Joseph Gorman, commander of gang investigations, to become the new Deering District commander.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

Rather than posting Police officers with assault weapons to prevent violence, they should give the opposing gangs a big space over at McCormick place to wage an all-out war with each other and put it on Pay per view TV. Get rid of the worthless garbage that will never make any contributions to society and make some much needed money for Chicago. Otherwise, just shut the doors on the church after one of these proceedings begins and gas the whole lot of em.

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Stealing material from Frank?

That's gotta sting.

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What is with people wanting to watch murder and torture on TV?

You people are some sick fucks. CP Guy and Elmhurst Steve need a hug or something.

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Well this explains why you wanted to be a police officer, and why you failed at being one.

How's the bowling arm, Steve?

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Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul

Just dont like to see criminals making innocent people afraid to walk around their own neighborhoods and getting shot by people who recklessly discharge firearms. Those kinds have no place in a decent society. It's not like these idiots are gonna see the error of their ways, go back to school and become contributing members of society. they are worthless trash that society is better off without.

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Go Cubs!!!!

I became a Police officer because I wanted to help people. Helping people that are terrorized by animals like people that are a part of gangs would have been something I would have made a high priority. But where I worked, we didn't have very serious gang problems like Chicago does. I most certainly did not fail in that profession. resigning to help my Dad after his heart attack and choosing a different profession is a far cry from failure.

My Bowling arm is just fine thank you.

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Much better to let "these guys" just shoot each other where no people like yourself have to see it.

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I have no problem with gang members shooting each other.

Is it bad that I wouldn't want it broadcast on TV? Think about the children...

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