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There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

Yeah that's the thing.....75 M for 5 years for a pitcher isn't crazy or anything. Boers is pretty out of touch with reality. The Cubs aren't spending enough money!!!!! Don't spend so much money!!!!!

Sanchez is a slightly better Gavin Floyd.

Not bad.

It's tough to say what bernstein's approach to this would be. Likely that Theo saw the value in locking up a young pitcher for five years at a reasonable rate when mid-level pitchers are in high demand and top pitchers are nearly impossible to acquire and such a move just reinforces his genius. But he might go the big time route by taking umbrage that "This. was. not. the. plan."

Not really. I'd say Floyd is slightly better than Sanchez.

Not really. I'd say Floyd is slightly better than Sanchez.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

Floyd has a better record, whilst Sanchez has a better ERA. They both average 204 innings. Sanchez has a 1.34 WHIP and Floyd's is 1.33.

They're remarkably similar.

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

Floyd has a better record, whilst Sanchez has a better ERA. They both average 204 innings. Sanchez has a 1.34 WHIP and Floyd's is 1.33.

They're remarkably similar.

I think the comparison is a pretty good one. Would you sign Gavin Floyd to a 5 year 75 million dollar contract? If not, you have to say that this would be foolish also.

Floyd has a better record, whilst Sanchez has a better ERA. They both average 204 innings. Sanchez has a 1.34 WHIP and Floyd's is 1.33.

They're remarkably similar.

If the team were ready to contend (guys like Soler, Baez and Almonte were developed and at the major league level) and the pitcher was a guy who had no issues with injuries and was coming off a season of 16-18 or more wins and an ERA of around 3.00, I would call this a good, prudent move. But for a guy coming off a 13-19 season with an ERA just under 4, for a team NOT ready to truely contend...it's foolish. It's gotta be hard for Theo and Jed to refrain from making moves that would help the team win some more games now, but they need to stick to the plan. This would be a major deviation from the plan and a bad one.

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Many that is true, but an incomplete statement.

Almost the same age (Floyd will be 30 next month) and in the past 3 years sanchez is 30-34 while Floyd was 34-37. Sanchez has an ERA over that span of 3.70, while Floyd's ERA (all in the A.L.) over that span is about 4.15.....They are indeed similar. The question remains, would you call an extension for Floyd of 5 years/75 Million a good idea???

There is not a damned thing wrong with people who are bull shitters.

I agree. My argument for Floyd would be a) that his home park is tough on pitchers and b) that he has shown the ability to dominate hitters over reasonably long stretches. He reminds me of a right-handed Al Leiter before he really got good in his early thirties. You could always see the stuff.



No, and I do think it's a bad signing and I'm saying that before it happens. It's bad if he goes to Detroit. It's bad if he goes to the Cubs. But I think the Sox could go three years and $36 million for Floyd which is a good deal in this market. And that's my entire point in the other thread. But who knows? Maybe Floyd wants to be a free agent.

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If the team were ready to contend (guys like Soler, Baez and Almonte were developed and at the major league level) and the pitcher was a guy who had no issues with injuries and was coming off a season of 16-18 or more wins and an ERA of around 3.00, I would call this a good, prudent move. But for a guy coming off a 13-19 season with an ERA just under 4, for a team NOT ready to truely contend...it's foolish. It's gotta be hard for Theo and Jed to refrain from making moves that would help the team win some more games now, but they need to stick to the plan. This would be a major deviation from the plan and a bad one.
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So has this signing been Haren'd yet?

DKnobler ‏@DKnobler
Here's the latest we know on Anibal Sanchez. As of now, seems like reasonable chance he stays with Tigers. http://cbsprt.co/W9Uc3R

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So has this signing been Haren'd yet?

DKnobler ‏@DKnobler
Here's the latest we know on Anibal Sanchez. As of now, seems like reasonable chance he stays with Tigers. http://cbsprt.co/W9Uc3R

Good- better for Sanchez (he can help a contender rather than toiling for a 2nd division team in 2013) and better for the Cubs-that they stay with the team plan.

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Guessing his agent floated this one early. More mud on the face of he Cubs. Detroit went 4 years, Cubs went 5 and thought they had him and then he went back to Detroit to match... and it sounds like they will. Agent played it right.

Cubs clearly played in the media by a real slimy agent. Guess he did right by his client though getting him more money to stay with a contender for this upcoming season. Bummer that multiple reputable sources said it was a done deal.

Isn't sliminess a prerequisite for the job?

I'm with Steve and cpguy. All we have heard about for the last 1.5 years is sticking to this plan and how well they are doing. This move was antithetical to the plan. In addition, you decide to go all in on a guy and its Annibel Sanchez?

I would have real concerns about the front office's ability to judge MLB level free agent talent right now. Epstien has missed more than he has hit on these types of moves over the past few years and his misses have been monumental.

Cubs dodged a bullet with this.