People who present facts as "I think ...."

FavreFan · **Posted:** Tue Dec 25, 2012 9:34 pm

Man I'm getting fucking sick of this little trend. It's becoming much more prevalent. "I think James Harden is one of the best young players in the league. I truly believe that!"

I hate this shit. Being an announcer would be remarkably easy, why do they all suck so badly?

Chris_in_joliet · **Posted:** Tue Dec 25, 2012 9:36 pm

I think you're right about this.

Oh and LOL

Scooter · **Posted:** Tue Dec 25, 2012 9:57 pm

I think the Bulls are playing like shit.

Furious Styles · **Posted:** Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:03 pm

I think it's beginning to look a lot like Christmas.

Don Tiny · **Posted:** Tue Dec 25, 2012 10:54 pm

Furious Styles wrote:

I think it's beginning to look a lot like Christmas.

I think it does everywhere I go.

Colonel Angus · **Posted:** Tue Dec 25, 2012 11:03 pm

FavreFan wrote:

Man I'm getting fucking sick of this little trend. It's becoming much more prevalent. "I think James Harden is one of the best young players in the league. I truly believe that!"

I hate this shit. Being an announcer would be remarkably easy, why do they all suck so badly?

James Harden (or anyone else, for the matter) being "the best" of anything isn't a fact. Best & worst are all opinions. I'm glad you made this post after I voted for you.

Scorehead · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:34 am

Isn't a comment prefaced by "I think" regarded as an opinion rather than a fact?

The Original Kid Cairo · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:06 am

Scorehead wrote:

Isn't a comment prefaced by "I think" regarded as an opinion rather than a fact?

What FavreFan is saying is that certain statements are so obviously factual, they should not be prefaced with "I think."

Example: "I think ketchup is red." That's not an opinion. It is a fact. So the sentence should simply be, "Ketchup is red."

Don Tiny · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 10:20 am

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

Scorehead wrote:

Isn't a comment prefaced by "I think" regarded as an opinion rather than a fact?

What FavreFan is saying is that certain statements are so obviously factual, they should not be prefaced with "I think."

Example: "I think ketchup is red." That's not an opinion. It is a fact. So the sentence should simply be, "Ketchup is red."

However, if Stevie Wonder said "I think ketchup is red", that would be appropriate, as he has no way to independantly verify the statement ... we know it as fact, but he can't know it for sure.

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Terry's Peeps · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:17 am

I think FavreFan was pretty drunk when he posted that.

Curious Hair · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:43 am

I could've sworn LeBron James plays for the Heat.

SomeGuy · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 11:45 am

I think a board meme has been born.

Bucky Chris · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:22 pm

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

Scorehead wrote:

Isn't a comment prefaced by "I think" regarded as an opinion rather than a fact?

What FavreFan is saying is that certain statements are so obviously factual, they should not be prefaced with "I think."

Example: "I think ketchup is red." That's not an opinion. It is a fact. So the sentence should simply be, "Ketchup is red."

Except that no one (ok, other than blind people DT) would say anything differently about ketchup. There are probably people who think Harden is overrated. Further, what does "one of the best" mean? Top 5? Top 10?

The Original Kid Cairo · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:23 pm

I'm not saying I agree with FavreFan's statement about Harden. I was merely trying to interpret what he meant.

Curious Hair · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:23 pm

Heinz briefly manufactured a line of blue, green, and purple ketchups. Be careful with your absolutes. And with blue ketchup.

Bucky Chris · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:25 pm

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

I'm not saying I agree with FavreFan's statement about Harden. I was merely trying to interpret what he meant.

Oh right, I get it. Was definitely directed at FF.

The Original Kid Cairo · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:28 pm

I hear ya, Bucky.

Personally, I don't get the Harden love though. I mean, he's a really good player but I wouldn't build a team around Harden and hand him the keys. Some people are convinced that Harden is that guy. I'm not.

Brick · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:28 pm

There is something poetic about FavreFan getting mad at someone for realizing that their opinion should not be viewed as a universal fact. How dare someone think that their opinion is not arguable!

Bucky Chris · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:29 pm

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

There is something poetic about FavreFan getting mad at someone for realizing that their opinion should not be viewed as a universal fact. How dare someone think that their opinion is not arguable!

The Original Kid Cairo · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:31 pm

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

There is something poetic about FavreFan getting mad at someone for realizing that their opinion should not be viewed as a universal fact. How dare someone think that their opinion is not arguable!

I like you.

Walt Williams Neck · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:37 pm

FavreFan wrote:

Man I'm getting fucking sick of this little trend. It's becoming much more prevalent. "I think James Harden is one of the best young players in the league. I truly believe that!"

I hate this shit. Being an announcer would be remarkably easy, why do they all suck so badly?

They suck so badly , because they are trying to find "NEW" ways to invent the color analyst...these guys are saying things that Dr.Jack Ramsey had enlighted fans about decades ago

bigfan · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:52 pm

FavreFan wrote:

Man I'm getting fucking sick of this little trend. It's becoming much more prevalent. "I think James Harden is one of the best young players in the league. I truly believe that!"

Welcome to ESPN

Douchebag · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:03 pm **Posts:** 43574

Walt Williams Neck wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

Man I'm getting fucking sick of this little trend. It's becoming much more prevalent. "I think James Harden is one of the best young players in the league. I truly believe that!"

I hate this shit. Being an announcer would be remarkably easy, why do they all suck so badly?

They suck so badly , because they are trying to find "NEW" ways to invent the color analyst...these guys are saying things that Dr.Jack Ramsey had enlighted fans about decades ago

Dr. Jack voted Manu Ginobli for MVP last season....

bigfan · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 12:58 pm

Dr. Jack Never ONCE picked the Bulls to win it all with Jordan! Always said the league will catch up with Jordan and create a defense to stop him.

Old school NBA guys never liked Jordan.

".....Jordan isn't going to turn this franchise around. I wouldn't ask him to. He's a very good offensive player, but not an overpowering offensive player."
-- Rod Thorn, then Bulls general manager, after selecting Jordan in the 1984 NBA Draft (Chicago Tribune, June 20, 1984)

The Original Kid Cairo · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:03 pm

bigfan wrote:

Dr. Jack Never ONCE picked the Bulls to win it all with Jordan! Always said the league will catch up with Jordan and create a defense to stop him.

Old school NBA guys never liked Jordan.

".....Jordan isn't going to turn this franchise around. I wouldn't ask him to. He's a very good offensive player, but not an overpowering offensive player."
-- Rod Thorn, then Bulls general manager, after selecting Jordan in the 1984 NBA Draft (Chicago Tribune, June 20, 1984)

That was back in the days when everyone felt like you had to build your team around a center, hence Portland selecting Sam Bowie after Houston picked Olajuwon.

sinicalypse · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:10 pm

I think Phat Girlz is on Oxygen right now. I think Phat Girlz is a cultural phenomenon. I think it's like the "Philadelphia" for "Plus-Sized" "Women."

FavreFan · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:30 pm

Bucky Chris wrote:

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

Scorehead wrote:

Isn't a comment prefaced by "I think" regarded as an opinion rather than a fact?

What FavreFan is saying is that certain statements are so obviously factual, they should not be prefaced with "I think."

Example: "I think ketchup is red." That's not an opinion. It is a fact. So the sentence should simply be, "Ketchup is red."

Except that no one (ok, other than blind people DT) would say anything differently about ketchup. There are probably people who think Harden is overrated. Further, what does "one of the best" mean? Top 5? Top 10?

You can debate where he's rated. Saying he's one of the best young players in the league isnt really debatable. Of course he is.

Bucky Chris · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:16 pm

bigfan wrote:

Dr. Jack Never ONCE picked the Bulls to win it all with Jordan! Always said the league will catch up with Jordan and create a defense to stop him.

Old school NBA guys never liked Jordan.

".....Jordan isn't going to turn this franchise around. I wouldn't ask him to. He's a very good offensive player, but not an overpowering offensive player."
-- Rod Thorn, then Bulls general manager, after selecting Jordan in the 1984 NBA Draft (Chicago Tribune, June 20, 1984)

Did anyone think he was going to be as good as he was in 1984?

The Original Kid Cairo · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:20 pm

No. He wasn't projected to be as good as he became.

Brick · **Posted:** Wed Dec 26, 2012 3:20 pm

http://score670.com/phpBB/viewtopic.php?p=1365107#p1365107

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