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Spiegel was told that A.J. did not respect Robin Ventura and made it known behind the scenes to anyone who would listen. The example he brought up was that previously, only wives were allowed on the charter. However, Robin relaxed the rule to allow younger unmarried guys to bring their girlfriends. A.J. was the only one who had a problem with that and he apparently threw a hissy fit about it.

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Spiegel was told that A.J. did not respect Robin Ventura and made it known behind the scenes to anyone who would listen. The example he brought up was that previously, only wives were allowed on the charter. However, Robin relaxed the rule to allow younger unmarried guys to bring their girlfriends. A.J. was the only one who had a problem with that and he apparently threw a hissy fit about it.


That is really interesting. Ventura should have had him bounced off the team right there. He sounds like a little bitch,which of course was proven when Mike Barret punched him and he did nothing.

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That is really interesting. Ventura should have had him bounced off the team right there. He sounds like a little bitch,which of course was proven when Mike Barret punched him and he did nothing.



Yeah, he shoulda kicked his ass...

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He sounds like a little bitch,which of course was proven when Mike Barret punched him and he did nothing.
I love how everyone thinks AJ is a huge jerk but some people also get mad at him for NOT punching someone.

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That would be a bad move for any team that would hire AJ as a manager.

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That just tells me that AJ is manager material.

Hiring AJ as manager would be hiring the bigger asshole version of Bobby Valentine.


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Based on Reinsdorf's statement I would guess AJ is his first call when/if Robin goes.

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That would be a bad move for any team that would hire AJ as a manager.

Dude knows baseball like no other.

Does the players' opinion of Coach K matter? Of Bill Belichik? Of Tom Coughlin?


But the players like those guys. Coughlin didnt start winning SuperBowls until he relaxed his assholeness.

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Q.Bovifs wrote:
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That would be a bad move for any team that would hire AJ as a manager.

Dude knows baseball like no other.

Does the players' opinion of Coach K matter? Of Bill Belichik? Of Tom Coughlin?

I think it's deeper than that.

There's a difference between a guy being a tough, hard-ass manager/coach and a guy being a petulant, devisive bully. I think AJ is the latter. I could not see a scenario where a team would thrive and be successful with AJ as the manager.

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Sounds to me like AJ was banging one of the other guys gf's.

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Q.Bovifs wrote:
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That would be a bad move for any team that would hire AJ as a manager.

Dude knows baseball like no other.

Does the players' opinion of Coach K matter? Of Bill Belichik? Of Tom Coughlin?

I think it's deeper than that.

There's a difference between a guy being a tough, hard-ass manager/coach and a guy being a petulant, devisive bully. I think AJ is the latter. I could not see a scenario where a team would thrive and be successful with AJ as the manager.

See 2005 - he was the masterful manager of the in-game pitching staff.

Oh, he certainly knows the game. I'll never take that away from him. Maybe he'd make a bench coach or somebody else on a staff, but I wouldn't let him be the top guy.

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Q.Bovifs wrote:
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Yes.

Spiegel was told that A.J. did not respect Robin Ventura and made it known behind the scenes to anyone who would listen. The example he brought up was that previously, only wives were allowed on the charter. However, Robin relaxed the rule to allow younger unmarried guys to bring their girlfriends. A.J. was the only one who had a problem with that and he apparently threw a hissy fit about it.

That just tells me that AJ is manager material.


It tells me that AJ is an asshole.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Yes.

Spiegel was told that A.J. did not respect Robin Ventura and made it known behind the scenes to anyone who would listen. The example he brought up was that previously, only wives were allowed on the charter. However, Robin relaxed the rule to allow younger unmarried guys to bring their girlfriends. A.J. was the only one who had a problem with that and he apparently threw a hissy fit about it.

What a first class fucking asswipe douche. God forbid the sanctity of the team plane is violated.

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At least Robin attacked Ryan. He may not have won, but he didn't back down. AJ is just a punk who got in too deep. Run your mouth like your a big shot and well see how big you are. AJ? He's as big as a Japanese Penis.

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Ventura beat the fuck out of Ryan. Watch the whole tape.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4j4ujBQY8s

He choked that punk until he was purple.

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The other thing that is never mentioned is that Ventura was a hero within baseball circles. He did what every other guy who ever stood in the box against Ryan wanted to do. Ryan was a guy who was as hated as Pierzynski.

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Ventura beat the fuck out of Ryan. Watch the whole tape.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4j4ujBQY8s

He choked that punk until he was purple.

:lol:

The better part of the video is when Robin slows up when he gets to the mound and you can see the look on his face, "oh shit, why did I run out here, I am about to get my ass beat."

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Ventura beat the fuck out of Ryan. Watch the whole tape.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4j4ujBQY8s

He choked that punk until he was purple.

:lol:

The better part of the video is when Robin slows up when he gets to the mound and you can see the look on his face, "oh shit, why did I run out here, I am about to get my ass beat."

Watch Joe's video.


I did watch it. It is BS. There were like 20 guys in the scramble at that point. No way to really tell what is going on and who is doing what.

Robin got his ass kicked. He very well may have earned some respect from people around the league, but he still got his ass kicked.

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Could players bring their mistresses along with their wives?

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Ventura beat the fuck out of Ryan. Watch the whole tape.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4j4ujBQY8s

He choked that punk until he was purple.

:lol:

The better part of the video is when Robin slows up when he gets to the mound and you can see the look on his face, "oh shit, why did I run out here, I am about to get my ass beat."

Watch Joe's video.


I did watch it. It is BS. There were like 20 guys in the scramble at that point. No way to really tell what is going on and who is doing what.

Robin got his ass kicked. He very well may have earned some respect from people around the league, but he still got his ass kicked.



He didn't though. Ryan rubbed his head like a sixth grader and then Ventura spun him around and choked the living shit out of him. If you prefer the narrative that a 45 year old goof beat up a 25 year old athlete in top condition, that's cool. It's just not reality.

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Could players bring their mistresses along with their wives?


That might be part of A.J.'s beef. You've got all these broads that sit together and are half-ass friends. Now some dope decides that this trip he's gonna skip the old lady and bring the girlfriend. So the other guys have all kinds of questions to answer about "who is that girl???" Who knows? But allowing girlfriends on the flight potentially opens up that can of worms.

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JORR & Ralph, the 2 biggest shit stirrers on this board going @ it over a 20 y.o. fight. :lol:

Ha! I wasn't even nominated in that category. So obviously you are wrong, as is JORR about the fight. But it is cool, I still love JORR

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Could players bring their mistresses along with their wives?


That might be part of A.J.'s beef. You've got all these broads that sit together and are half-ass friends. Now some dope decides that this trip he's gonna skip the old lady and bring the girlfriend. So the other guys have all kinds of questions to answer about "who is that girl???" Who knows? But allowing girlfriends on the flight potentially opens up that can of worms.


There is no doubt there is logic to his objection. However, you take that up with Robin in private not out in the open.

AJ was notorious for being a bully to rookies. The moment Flowers, or anyone else on any other team, played more than AJ he would have turned cancerous.

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Could players bring their mistresses along with their wives?


That might be part of A.J.'s beef. You've got all these broads that sit together and are half-ass friends. Now some dope decides that this trip he's gonna skip the old lady and bring the girlfriend. So the other guys have all kinds of questions to answer about "who is that girl???" Who knows? But allowing girlfriends on the flight potentially opens up that can of worms.


There is no doubt there is logic to his objection. However, you take that up with Robin in private not out in the open.

AJ was notorious for being a bully to rookies. The moment Flowers, or anyone else on any other team, played more than AJ he would have turned cancerous.


I'm not crying to see AJ gone. It was time. I just don't think Flowers is the answer. I don't think Hahn does either, but there doesn't seem to be much out there.

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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
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Could players bring their mistresses along with their wives?


That might be part of A.J.'s beef. You've got all these broads that sit together and are half-ass friends. Now some dope decides that this trip he's gonna skip the old lady and bring the girlfriend. So the other guys have all kinds of questions to answer about "who is that girl???" Who knows? But allowing girlfriends on the flight potentially opens up that can of worms.


There is no doubt there is logic to his objection. However, you take that up with Robin in private not out in the open.

AJ was notorious for being a bully to rookies. The moment Flowers, or anyone else on any other team, played more than AJ he would have turned cancerous.


I'm not crying to see AJ gone. It was time. I just don't think Flowers is the answer. I don't think Hahn does either, but there doesn't seem to be much out there.


I would have liked to see AJ back. Flowers will give them good power and an absolutely dead bottom of the order.

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