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I'm telling you... a left handed Drew Stubbs. Also a "5-tool" prospect. Honestly, at this point we don't even know if Jackson is even a MLB starter. IMU seem to read things about a guys "ceiling" but doesn't understand the concept of "floor".

Vitters just never really developed.

I'm starting to think he's a left handed Brain Anderson.


Is that some scientist or something?

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I'm telling you... a left handed Drew Stubbs. Also a "5-tool" prospect. Honestly, at this point we don't even know if Jackson is even a MLB starter. IMU seem to read things about a guys "ceiling" but doesn't understand the concept of "floor".

Vitters just never really developed.

I'm starting to think he's a left handed Brain Anderson.


Is that some scientist or something?

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IMU, all you have to do is say, "I might be wrong about Jackson." You look even more and more foolish as you drag this debate on.

I will never acquiesce just because a bunch of folks don't agree with me. I don't mind holding this flag solo, waiting for Jackson to validate my arguments. Which I still believe he will.


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Javier Baez broke the tip of his thumb celebrating and will be shut down from the Arizona Fall league. It's going to be interesting to see what Theo and Co do with this Kid. He doesn't seem to fit the mold of what they say they are trying to build.


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Javier Baez broke the tip of his thumb celebrating and will be shut down from the Arizona Fall league. It's going to be interesting to see what Theo and Co do with this Kid. He doesn't seem to fit the mold of what they say they are trying to build.


How does one break the tip of their thumb celebrating.

BTW...How's Kenneth Williams doing in the fall league??

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Javier Baez broke the tip of his thumb celebrating and will be shut down from the Arizona Fall league. It's going to be interesting to see what Theo and Co do with this Kid. He doesn't seem to fit the mold of what they say they are trying to build.

??? They are not looking to develop impact players????? I take it your point is he isn't seeing enough pitches????


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Javier Baez broke the tip of his thumb celebrating and will be shut down from the Arizona Fall league. It's going to be interesting to see what Theo and Co do with this Kid. He doesn't seem to fit the mold of what they say they are trying to build.

??? They are not looking to develop impact players????? I take it yoiur point is he isn't seeing enough pitches????

His point is that he is a Sox homer trying to talk shit about the Cubs yet again.

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Javier Baez broke the tip of his thumb celebrating and will be shut down from the Arizona Fall league. It's going to be interesting to see what Theo and Co do with this Kid. He doesn't seem to fit the mold of what they say they are trying to build.

??? They are not looking to develop impact players????? I take it yoiur point is he isn't seeing enough pitches????

His point is that he is a Sox homer trying to talk shit about the Cubs yet again.

Yea I know.


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Top Prospect Alert ‏@MinorLeagueBlog
#Cubs Junior Lake with 2 more hits so far tonight. He's up to .340 currently in Dominican Winter League play

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#Cubs Junior Lake with 2 more hits so far tonight. He's up to .340 currently in Dominican Winter League play

3rd base candidate??


If he could learn to catch.


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Javier Baez broke the tip of his thumb celebrating and will be shut down from the Arizona Fall league. It's going to be interesting to see what Theo and Co do with this Kid. He doesn't seem to fit the mold of what they say they are trying to build.


How does one break the tip of their thumb celebrating.??


I believe he misunderstood the game "just the tip"

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BTW...How's Kenneth Williams doing in the fall league??
You need a new joke. Maybe one that is actually funny this time. KW Jr is now with the Rockies organization.

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Josh Vitters has been dropped by his team in the Venezuelan Winter League. Vitters lasted just two games with the Caracas Lions before getting the boot. It's not clear if the 23-year-old third baseman will try to latch on with another team or simply head home.


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Josh Vitters has been dropped by his team in the Venezuelan Winter League. Vitters lasted just two games with the Caracas Lions before getting the boot. It's not clear if the 23-year-old third baseman will try to latch on with another team or simply head home.


Had 7 AB's. Hitless. Seems to be a bit more to the story than what's being reported, but no bueno for him and the Cubs either way.

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Junior Lake has been starting in center field a fair bit in the Dominican Winter League, which, yes, is almost certainly as much about just finding a spot for him and getting his bat in the lineup as it is about the Cubs wanting to see him in center field. But, here’s the thing to keep in mind: the Dominican Winter League isn’t just some developmental league – it’s actually a competitive league where the teams very much want to win. The team wouldn’t keep putting him in center field unless they saw some ability there. Center field hasn’t really been a plausible long-term suggestion for Lake, but it suppose it’s just as likely as any other position for the athletic but inconsistent youngster. His bat would obviously play a whole lot better in center field than a corner spot. Very few think he can stick at shortstop, and he’s blocked there by Starlin Castro anyway. I think he spends most of 2013 at AAA (if he’s still with the Cubs), regardless.

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Junior Lake has been starting in center field a fair bit in the Dominican Winter League, which, yes, is almost certainly as much about just finding a spot for him and getting his bat in the lineup as it is about the Cubs wanting to see him in center field. But, here’s the thing to keep in mind: the Dominican Winter League isn’t just some developmental league – it’s actually a competitive league where the teams very much want to win. The team wouldn’t keep putting him in center field unless they saw some ability there. Center field hasn’t really been a plausible long-term suggestion for Lake, but it suppose it’s just as likely as any other position for the athletic but inconsistent youngster. His bat would obviously play a whole lot better in center field than a corner spot. Very few think he can stick at shortstop, and he’s blocked there by Starlin Castro anyway. I think he spends most of 2013 at AAA (if he’s still with the Cubs), regardless.

http://www.bleachernation.com/2012/12/2 ... r-bullets/



Sounds like Bleacher Nation has been using The Dwarf Keyser as a source......
if playing one game in CF in the entire month of December is a fair bit than YES Lake has been in CF a "fair bit"

His team has played 13 games in December
3B 4 starts 1 in game sub
LF 3 starts
DNP 3 times
SS 2 starts
CF 1 start

LOOK at a box score once in awhile and STOP making stuff up

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Junior Lake has been starting in center field a fair bit in the Dominican Winter League, which, yes, is almost certainly as much about just finding a spot for him and getting his bat in the lineup as it is about the Cubs wanting to see him in center field. But, here’s the thing to keep in mind: the Dominican Winter League isn’t just some developmental league – it’s actually a competitive league where the teams very much want to win. The team wouldn’t keep putting him in center field unless they saw some ability there. Center field hasn’t really been a plausible long-term suggestion for Lake, but it suppose it’s just as likely as any other position for the athletic but inconsistent youngster. His bat would obviously play a whole lot better in center field than a corner spot. Very few think he can stick at shortstop, and he’s blocked there by Starlin Castro anyway. I think he spends most of 2013 at AAA (if he’s still with the Cubs), regardless.

http://www.bleachernation.com/2012/12/2 ... r-bullets/



Sounds like Bleacher Nation has been using The Dwarf Keyser as a source......
if playing one game in CF in the entire month of December is a fair bit than YES Lake has been in CF a "fair bit"

His team has played 13 games in December
3B 4 starts 1 in game sub
LF 3 starts
DNP 3 times
SS 2 starts
CF 1 start

LOOK at a box score once in awhile and STOP making stuff up


To be fair, and without doing any research myself, he could have changed positions during those games.


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THE INQUISITOR wrote:
cpguy wrote:
From Bleacher Nation:

Junior Lake has been starting in center field a fair bit in the Dominican Winter League, which, yes, is almost certainly as much about just finding a spot for him and getting his bat in the lineup as it is about the Cubs wanting to see him in center field. But, here’s the thing to keep in mind: the Dominican Winter League isn’t just some developmental league – it’s actually a competitive league where the teams very much want to win. The team wouldn’t keep putting him in center field unless they saw some ability there. Center field hasn’t really been a plausible long-term suggestion for Lake, but it suppose it’s just as likely as any other position for the athletic but inconsistent youngster. His bat would obviously play a whole lot better in center field than a corner spot. Very few think he can stick at shortstop, and he’s blocked there by Starlin Castro anyway. I think he spends most of 2013 at AAA (if he’s still with the Cubs), regardless.

http://www.bleachernation.com/2012/12/2 ... r-bullets/



Sounds like Bleacher Nation has been using The Dwarf Keyser as a source......
if playing one game in CF in the entire month of December is a fair bit than YES Lake has been in CF a "fair bit"

His team has played 13 games in December
3B 4 starts 1 in game sub
LF 3 starts
DNP 3 times
SS 2 starts
CF 1 start

LOOK at a box score once in awhile and STOP making stuff up


To be fair, and without doing any research myself, he could have changed positions during those games.


The box scores show position switches. He played two positions in one game that's where the in game move occured.

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The Cubs' farm system has gone through a complete remodel since Theo Epstein and Jed Hoyer took over in October 2011 and their stamp on the Cubs' top prospects was on full display in Baseball America's latest rankings.

BA's Top 10 prospects, released this morning, are as follows:

1. Javier Baez, SS
2. Albert Almora, OF
3. Jorge Soler, OF
4. Arodys Vizcaino, RHP
5. Brett Jackson, RHP
6. Pierce Johnson, RHP
7. Dan Vogelbach, 1B
8. Jeimer Candelario, 3B
9. Kyuji Fujikawa, RHP
10. Arismendy Alcantara, SS

First off, the Top 5 are hardly a surprise, as almost every set of prospect rankings lists those guys in a similar order. Some may be a bit more wary of Jackson given his uptick in strikeouts over 2012, but he still is good enough in the other categories to warrant a place in the Top 5.

Five of the 10 players are new additions under this regime, with Almora and Johnson as draft picks, Soler and Fujikawa as international signings and Vizcaino coming over in the Paul Maholm trade.

It's interesting to see Fujikawa on the list, as the 32-year-old Japanese reliever is not exactly what one pictures as a prospect. I always think it's weird to consider international players "rookies" and "prospects," but I guess they technically are, so it makes sense to include a guy like Fujikawa on this list. He has dominated in Japan over the last six seasons, sporting a sparkling 1.36 ERA and 0.86 WHIP with 202 saves and 12.4 K/9 in 345 games.

Candelario and Alcantara are two of the more unknown prospects on the list, as neither has gotten much national acclaim to date.

Candelario, a 20-year-old infielder, was actually born in New York, but moved to the Dominican Republic and signed with the Cubs in 2010 for $500,000. Baseball America said he could have been a first round pick in 2012's draft had he stayed in America.

The 6-foot-1, 180 pound switch-hitter has spent most of his time at third base in the lower levels of the Cubs' system the past two years and boasts a career batting line of .307/.393/.435 in 615 plate appearances with 30 doubles, 11 homers, 100 RBI and 84 runs. His 76:97 walk:strikeout ratio is very encouraging for a young hitter and he could start the season in Kane County after spending all of '12 with the Boise Hawks.

Alcantara is a bit older -- he can legally buy a drink, having turned 21 this past October -- and also signed with the Cubs out of the Dominican Republic. The 5-foot-10, 160-pound infielder is also a switch-hitter and has spent time at all three infield positions, with 47 games at second, 51 at third and 194 at shortstop.

Alcantara made a whopping 35 errors last season and has 133 in 294 career games, but has shown improvement with the bat, hitting .302/.339/.447 with 25 steals in 359 plate appearances for High-A Daytona.

Vogelbach, the Cubs' second-round pick in the 2011 Draft, is another intriguing prospect. The 20-year-old first baseman can really hit, slugging .641 this past season at two levels, including 17 homers and 21 doubles in just 283 plate appearances. His 1.051 OPS shows the potential is there, and some have even likened him to Prince Fielder, as Vogelbach is also a big-bodied slugger (listed at 6-foot, 250 pounds).

Baseball America's article is jam-packed with other good nuggets, including a Projected 2016 lineup that features Starlin Castro at second base and Baez at shortstop. Be sure to check out the complete post.

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Brett Jackson’s Strikeout Rate Reaches Historic Level

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Cubs outfielder Brett Jackson continues to be one of the most perplexing prospects in baseball. He’s a toolsy outfielder with speed and power, but he carries with that a strikeout rate that is rarely seen. Jackson’s 59 strikeouts in 120 big league at-bats last season is even more rare than you may think. With a strikeout in 49.17 percent of his at-bats, Jackson posted the second-highest rate ever by a position player in a big league season of 100 or more at-bats.

Only Athletics catcher Dave Duncan’s 49.5 percent rate in 1967 tops Jackson’s 2012 propensity to swing and miss. With a 100 at-bat cutoff, there have only been 35 players to strike out in 40 percent or more of their at-bats in a season since the integration era began in 1947. It was a very disappointing big league debut for Jackson, who has ranked in the top 40 in each of the past two Baseball America Top 100 Prospect lists.

So can Jackson put his free-swinging ways behind him enough to have big league success? If he does, he’ll be part of a select group. Looking at the players who have come close to Jackson’s 2012 big league strikeout rate finds plenty of players either on their way out of the league or those who never really arrived. A few players who posted similar rates early in their big league careers managed to have some success, but in most cases they were able to succeed because they had another tool, usually massive power or excellent glove work behind home plate, to make up for their offensive deficiencies. If Jackson is able to overcome his strikeout problems to become more than a role player or second division regular, he'll be bucking history.

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That doesn't sounds promising. I will hold out hope he gets his SO rate to an acceptable level.


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You must be right ...he has your White Sox system ranked 29th this year.

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to be fair...having an awful system hasn't seemed to hold them back all that much...

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Brett Jackson’s Strikeout Rate Reaches Historic Level

Posted Jan. 8, 2013 4:37 pm by J.J. Cooper
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Cubs outfielder Brett Jackson continues to be one of the most perplexing prospects in baseball. He’s a toolsy outfielder with speed and power, but he carries with that a strikeout rate that is rarely seen. Jackson’s 59 strikeouts in 120 big league at-bats last season is even more rare than you may think. With a strikeout in 49.17 percent of his at-bats, Jackson posted the second-highest rate ever by a position player in a big league season of 100 or more at-bats.

Only Athletics catcher Dave Duncan’s 49.5 percent rate in 1967 tops Jackson’s 2012 propensity to swing and miss. With a 100 at-bat cutoff, there have only been 35 players to strike out in 40 percent or more of their at-bats in a season since the integration era began in 1947. It was a very disappointing big league debut for Jackson, who has ranked in the top 40 in each of the past two Baseball America Top 100 Prospect lists.

So can Jackson put his free-swinging ways behind him enough to have big league success? If he does, he’ll be part of a select group. Looking at the players who have come close to Jackson’s 2012 big league strikeout rate finds plenty of players either on their way out of the league or those who never really arrived. A few players who posted similar rates early in their big league careers managed to have some success, but in most cases they were able to succeed because they had another tool, usually massive power or excellent glove work behind home plate, to make up for their offensive deficiencies. If Jackson is able to overcome his strikeout problems to become more than a role player or second division regular, he'll be bucking history.

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/pro ... ric-level/



With Almora and Soler in the system, they have a couple of highly rated outfielders that should claim spots in the outfield by 2015, if not before. Jackson is the best defensive outfielder in the system though and has some pop. If he can just make enough contact to hit .250 he could be a valuable piece of the puzzle. But he needs more time at AAA and to cut down on the swing a bit just to ensure more consistent contact. Even if that means less power.

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I wonder if Trout will strikeout that much...

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Drew Stubbs is starting to look like a ceiling, not a floor. Your guy Brett has a massive hole in his swing.. :lol:

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I had a theory that Epstein was kind of thumbing his nose by throwing Vitters and Jackson out there at the end of the year just to expose the drafting and prospect-hyping of the Hendry-Wilken regime.
Now that they have an influx of actual prospects; "See how much these Hendry guys suck!!"

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 8:56 am 
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I had a theory that Epstein was kind of thumbing his nose by throwing Vitters and Jackson out there at the end of the year just to expose the drafting and prospect-hyping of the Hendry-Wilken regime.
Now that they have an influx of actual prospects; "See how much these Hendry guys suck!!"


and how do you know that Epstien's hyped prospects are any better than Hendry's hyped prospects, especially because Soler is the only one above A.

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