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PostPosted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:36 pm 
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Alright...Michael Phelps is a swimmer, Bill Maher is a comedian, and Stephen King is 1) a writer and 2) sober for decades.

No astrophysicists there...

Carl Sagan
Astronomer, astrophysicist, cosmologist, pothead.


Look, the best and the brightest comment is just really bad and pretty naive. I wont argue it anymore. If that's what you believe, that's your business.
You should do the same list for posters on this board.

Make a list of the dumbest pot smokers on the board and the smartest pot smokers on the board. Then do it for alcohol and we'll see.[/quote]
Pretty sure we'll see no correlation of anything on either side.


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1) I know who Carl Sagan is and 2) Isn't he the guy who was ashamed about it and his use didn't come to public light until after his death?

edit: He advocated marijuana usage under as a psuedonym. Brave.

I didnt post that to tell you who he was. You specifically said No astrophysicists and I named an astrophysicist


His alleged shame over it is not a point for your side.

FACT: One of the best and brightest Astrophysicists in history was a pot smoker.


That he had shame speaks more to the Reefer Madness I spoke of earlier.


Do you want to keep going or do you want to admit you made a bad generalization?


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I believe my generalization is still accurate to a large degree.

I think if you get out and live life and meet some different kinds of people you may change your opinion.


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There will always be exceptions. There are some "bright" potheads on this forum. But if I'm running a company...I would be much more hesitant to hire a pot-smoker than to hire someone who doesn't need chemicals to alter his mind when off the job.

So you would be weeding out anyone who drinks then?




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, Chus, anyone else...when and how do you explain your pot use to your kids?

The same way you would explain your drinking but substitute weed for booze.

Not sure what the legality will be at that point, but Im guessing it will be legal for the most part.


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I believe my generalization is still accurate to a large degree. There will always be exceptions. There are some "bright" potheads on this forum. But if I'm running a company...I would be much more hesitant to hire a pot-smoker than to hire someone who doesn't need chemicals to alter his mind when off the job.

Get a hobby.

RPB, Chus, anyone else...when and how do you explain your pot use to your kids?


Why would I discuss that with my kids?

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I believe my generalization is still accurate to a large degree. There will always be exceptions. There are some "bright" potheads on this forum. But if I'm running a company...I would be much more hesitant to hire a pot-smoker than to hire someone who doesn't need chemicals to alter his mind when off the job.

Get a hobby.

RPB, Chus, anyone else...when and how do you explain your pot use to your kids?


Why would I discuss that with my kids?

I think he's talking about when the kid is older and may have questions about it.

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I believe my generalization is still accurate to a large degree. There will always be exceptions. There are some "bright" potheads on this forum. But if I'm running a company...I would be much more hesitant to hire a pot-smoker than to hire someone who doesn't need chemicals to alter his mind when off the job.

Get a hobby.



By your logic, since you enjoy alcohol (which is a mind altering chemical), you should lose your job to a teetotaler.

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In two years both those guys will be legally allowed to smoke.

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IMU, I think its possible you may be a little ignorant on the issue of people who smoke.


Are you around a lot of people that smoke? Probably not right?


Maybe you are. The point is you seem to have a very false stereotype in your head that even most people who are anti pot have moved past.


And remember, you never know who smokes at home.

Ive had situations where I would have sworn a guy didnt go near weed, and I find out he's a smoker.


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I believe my generalization is still accurate to a large degree. There will always be exceptions. There are some "bright" potheads on this forum. But if I'm running a company...I would be much more hesitant to hire a pot-smoker than to hire someone who doesn't need chemicals to alter his mind when off the job.

Get a hobby.

RPB, Chus, anyone else...when and how do you explain your pot use to your kids?

You have admitted to stealing many things via torrent. Would you employ thieves in your own business?

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I believe my generalization is still accurate to a large degree. There will always be exceptions. There are some "bright" potheads on this forum. But if I'm running a company...I would be much more hesitant to hire a pot-smoker than to hire someone who doesn't need chemicals to alter his mind when off the job.

Get a hobby.

RPB, Chus, anyone else...when and how do you explain your pot use to your kids?


Why would I discuss that with my kids?

I think he's talking about when the kid is older and may have questions about it.


I guess I will cross that bridge when I get to it. It's still a ridiculous question from IMU, and not pertinent to the discussion at all.

I am still waiting for his response to my question about the gov't listing cannabis as a Schedule 1 narcotic, purely based on years of lies and propoganda.

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Is this all just a bit, IMU? You are really grasping at straws here. Let BRick be BRick. He is much better at it than you are.

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IMU, I think its possible you may be a little ignorant on the issue...


Too often the case, sadly.

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I believe my generalization is still accurate to a large degree.

I think if you get out and live life and meet some different kinds of people you may change your opinion.

Speaking of assumptions. You're right, I've only met one type of person ever. I only ever leave my house to go to work, where I don't interact with anyone ever.

Im sorry you're right. I shouldnt assume you are sheltered. You were totally kidding abot Schaumburg being culturally ahead of Chicago right?

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There will always be exceptions. There are some "bright" potheads on this forum. But if I'm running a company...I would be much more hesitant to hire a pot-smoker than to hire someone who doesn't need chemicals to alter his mind when off the job.

So you would be weeding out anyone who drinks then?

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Yeah - if you feel the need to get buzzed most nights, you're also out. I have a beer many nights...a beer, sometimes two. I'm not drinking myself into a stupor. Bad form.

Many smokers smoke half a hitter to take the edge off. Probably closer to sobriety than your one of two beers is.

"Many" nights is probably too much drinking though

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, Chus, anyone else...when and how do you explain your pot use to your kids?

The same way you would explain your drinking but substitute weed for booze.

Not sure what the legality will be at that point, but Im guessing it will be legal for the most part.

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What does your last sentence mean?

"But Daddy, isn't maryjewana illegal?"

"Yes, it is, loving daughter of mine, but daddy don't play by the fucking rules!!!"

:lol:

My daughter speaks pretty well at 6, I doubt she'll be messing up words like that when she's old enough to ask those questions.

My last sentence means while I cant guarentee it, Im pretty sure it will be legal by the time that conversation takes place.

and lastly, I would suggest that in an adult conversation, if someone claims to never break any law, they are lying.

I would never say don't where doesn't belongs. And I dont consider myself to be a renegade of the law.



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I would be much more hesitant to hire a pot-smoker than to hire someone who doesn't need chemicals to alter his mind when off the job.
Until it effects their job and/or other co-workers, I really don't have a reason to know or care what they do off the clock.

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Is this all just a bit, IMU? You are really grasping at straws here. Let BRick be BRick. He is much better at it than you are.
:lol: Just like alcohol, I'd have no problem hiring or working with a marijuana user as long as they avoided it during work hours. That assumes there is at least some workplace risk for being high on something. Otherwise, I don't even see it as an issue.

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First of all, you disagreeing with it doesn't make it terrible.

Correct, that it's terrible is just my opinion.


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Secondly, this is how I feel, and have no intention to make it out to be fact or the correct way of thinking.

Cool


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And finally, it is illegal. We can debate if that should be the case, but for now it is. And a company would like their employees to NOT participate in any illegal activities. And that seems fine to me.

Not totally illegal but ok.


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I had no idea how old your daughter was.

Fair enough, but I dont think anyone would have that conversation with someone young enough to still be messing up words like that.

high five for agreeing to disagree

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Is this all just a bit, IMU? You are really grasping at straws here. Let BRick be BRick. He is much better at it than you are.
:lol: Just like alcohol, I'd have no problem hiring or working with a marijuana user as long as they avoided it during work hours. That assumes there is at least some workplace risk for being high on something. Otherwise, I don't even see it as an issue.

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Is this all just a bit, IMU? You are really grasping at straws here. Let BRick be BRick. He is much better at it than you are.
:lol: Just like alcohol, I'd have no problem hiring or working with a marijuana user as long as they avoided it during work hours. That assumes there is at least some workplace risk for being high on something. Otherwise, I don't even see it as an issue.


And you are echoing my thoughts on it. Responsible cannabis use by adults means not doing it at work, or before work.

IMU's assumption that anybody who tokes after work "needs to toke", is ridiculous. By his logic, anybody who drinks "needs to drink" and is therefore an alcoholic, and should lose their job to a teetotaler.

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First of all, you disagreeing with it doesn't make it terrible. Secondly, this is how I feel, and have no intention to make it out to be fact or the correct way of thinking. And finally, it is illegal. We can debate if that should be the case, but for now it is. And a company would like their employees to NOT participate in any illegal activities. And that seems fine to me.



Since you have downloaded illegally, exceeded the posted speed limit (I'm assuming, of course, but probably correct), and operated a vehicle with a BAC of greater than 0.08 (I drank with you at Two Bros after Bowling IV, you were certainly there after a couple of potent beers, and beers at the bowling alley), you are a dangerous criminal, and you should lose your job. Will you be resigning from your current job this afternoon?

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Its all good

In a few years we'll all be working together at Walmart


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Its all good

In a few years we'll all be working together at Walmart

Can I get the guns and ammunitions section?

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Its all good

In a few years we'll all be working together at Walmart


Not you, you pot smoking loser. You will be flipping burgers, if you're lucky.

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Its all good

In a few years we'll all be working together at Walmart


Not you, you pot smoking loser. You will be flipping burgers, if you're lucky.

Thats fine, the burger joint will be in Wal Mart with everything else


IMU just feels a certain way. Maybe he's wrong. Who cares what anyone besides you and your loved ones think at the end of the day?


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Uploading is technically the illegal portion of the internet download scenario.

Gonna go ahead and disagree with you there...


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Uploading is technically the illegal portion of the internet download scenario.

Gonna go ahead and disagree with you there...

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Chus wrote:
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Its all good

In a few years we'll all be working together at Walmart


Not you, you pot smoking loser. You will be flipping burgers, if you're lucky.

Thats fine, the burger joint will be in Wal Mart with everything else


IMU just feels a certain way. Maybe he's wrong. Who cares what anyone besides you and your loved ones think at the end of the day?


Maybe I could be a greeter in that same Walmart, and we can blaze together on break, if our corporate warlord masters would even allow us to take a break.

Of course, he is wrong, that is why he takes such a goofy position, full of assumptions and reaches. Positions such as 1) the gov't has classified cannabis as a schedule 1 narcotic, so... and 2) companies want to hire people who don't break the law, which unfortunately, includes him, as well. That one was clearly not very well thought out.

He is on the same side as Scorehead and ES, so what does that tell you? This issue isn't even about opinions any more. There is a right side, and a wrong side. Current drug laws are based on propaganda and lies from 1937. I'm still waiting for one, just ONE argument from the anti-pot side that makes sense. It's dangerous, it's a gateway drug, drug use supports terrorism, blah blah blah.....it's all garbage, and the majority of the people in this country, are starting to see the light.

In the grand scale, I don't care what IMU, or anybody thinks about my cannabis usage. Again, if you need to make outrageous reaches, and wild assumptions, you are probably fighting an uphill battle. But, this is a message board, where we discuss issues such as these. My wife doesn't have an issue with it, so that's good enough for me. Despite being a pot smoker, I have managed to remain a good husband to my wife, and a responsible, attentive caretaker for my children.

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I don't drive drunk. I pace myself each and every time I'm out, and would more than welcome a test to be performed any time I leave a bar.

Also, that mead stuff was TURRIBLE.


I'm not saying you were loaded, and stumbling all over the place, but I guarantee that a skinny guy like you was at least 0.08. I'm not saying that I have never done that, because I have. It was more of a response to your comment about companies not wanting to hire those who break the law. Driving a car after however many beers you drank, is far more dangerous to society than me toking one in the garage.

The Mead was way too sweet for my taste buds.

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Uploading is technically the illegal portion of the internet download scenario.

Gonna go ahead and disagree with you there...

Feel free to do what you want, but look into it first. I sure have.

Yeah, I've done a lot of research on this topic, but thanks for the reading suggestion.

Just because the vast majority of cases (like almost all) are against people sharing copyrighted material, it doesn't mean the act of downloading is legal.


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I have a card in my wallet that allows me to illegally download anything I want.

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In the grand scale, I don't care what IMU, or anybody thinks about my cannabis usage.

This just means the punishment isn't harsh enough. Have your fun when it becomes legal, but until then it is illegal and there should be a deterrent.

And I think you think I had more beers than I had. At the Bowling Alley we were probably drinking domestic type stuff, and most Two Brothers beers are between 5-7% ABV probably. I wasn't smashing them back.


Two of those beers will get you to 0.08

Why do think that I should face harsh punishment for doing something that harms nobody?

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