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i really hate that excuse. adult film critics and audiences were giving a lot of praise to the original "star wars" films. it's as simple as this: the films were fun and the characters were engaging. that's why they have sustained the legacy.

i'm not going to get into this again...and red letter media did a perfect job explaining why the prequels are widely regarded as horrendous.

it has nothing to do with being a child when the originals came out, nothing at all.


The other thing about the original trilogy was it told a mythic story. At the time we as a society forgot that the Myth story of the journey to being the epic hero can be very very powerful. Go read you some Campbell,Lucas did before making the layout for the series. The problem with the second are that the heroes story was not that compelling. Some of the reasons where casting,the fact they changed so much story to make everything fit.The big reason for the failure was they switched the whole story arc to the rise and fall then redemption of the wrong Skywalker.

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I took flying lessons in the Milenium Falcon from Sue Happy....

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I always felt some of the dialogue from AotC was so bad it end ended up working. Anakin absolutely sounded like an emo teenager complaining that no one understood him and seemed like the type to talk about love in a completely non-sensical teen angsty way. I believed Hayden was as lame as he made himself out to be. His bad acting just made it even more convincing. Sadly, Padme's dialogue was written the same way so that cancelled all the good out of it.


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Princess Leia and Han Solo also play heavily into the Thrawn Trilogy, popping out a pair of twins (of course) among other things. As for the name Thrawn, well, that refers to a grand admiral with imperial sympathies who takes over as the leader of the vanquished enemy faction.

So is that the basis for Episode 7 or not? I've heard directly from LucasFilm and other sources close to the picture, and they say: Definitely not.

"It's an original story," a LucasFilm source tells me.

In other words, forget the Star Wars novels. Forget the graphic novels. Forget everything you think you know about what happens to Luke Skywalker. According to my sources, Episode 7 will literally be nothing you've ever seen or read before from the Star Wars universe.


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Empire
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Return of the Jedi
Phantom Menace


:lol: you rate a movie that has some of the lamest "love" scenes of all time above cute ewoks? not to mention anakin's sudden departure from being a stilted moron just long enough to slaughter innocent kids because he's suddenly a stilted dark moron. that's far more genius than a couple little teddy bears protecting their awesome planet.


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You shouldn't be against it. Disney can advance the story and make good movies.

Princess Leia and Han Solo are gonna have a kid. That boy is gonna be a bad ass Jedi. That's where they pick up the story. Before that kid grows up they can have a few more episodes where Luke kicks ass before they retire his story line.


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I really can not rank the movies as I seen them at different parts of my life. The only thing I can say with certainty is that Phantom Menace sucks.
I own 4 sets of the original Trilogy-2 VHS and 2 DVD. I do not own any of the second trilogy. I am thinking of getting the big BluRay pack just to have them for the extras.

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They should base the new movie on this:

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
Empire
A New Hope
Revenge of the Sith
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Return of the Jedi
Phantom Menace


:lol: you rate a movie that has some of the lamest "love" scenes of all time above cute ewoks? not to mention anakin's sudden departure from being a stilted moron just long enough to slaughter innocent kids because he's suddenly a stilted dark moron. that's far more genius than a couple little teddy bears protecting their awesome planet.


Return of the Jedi didnt just have the bad Ewoks, it nuetered a great villian. For two movies Darth Vader was a great villian and seemed like such a badass. You knew the Emporer was in charge but Vader was the guy that made it run. Then Return of the Jedi comes along and makes Vader look like a weak ass pussy and then the battalion of hand picked elite troops on Endor is defeated by a bunch of lame teddy bears.

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Hank Scorpio wrote:
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
Empire
A New Hope
Revenge of the Sith
Attack of the Clones
Return of the Jedi
Phantom Menace


:lol: you rate a movie that has some of the lamest "love" scenes of all time above cute ewoks? not to mention anakin's sudden departure from being a stilted moron just long enough to slaughter innocent kids because he's suddenly a stilted dark moron. that's far more genius than a couple little teddy bears protecting their awesome planet.


Return of the Jedi didnt just have the bad Ewoks, it nuetered a great villian. For two movies Darth Vader was a great villian and seemed like such a badass. You knew the Emporer was in charge but Vader was the guy that made it run. Then Return of the Jedi comes along and makes Vader look like a weak ass pussy and then the battalion of hand picked elite troops on Endor is defeated by a bunch of lame teddy bears.


Perhaps a case of after-the-fact, but if you read on wookiepedia about Darth and Palpatine, Vader wasn't even half as badass as he would've been after badly losing to Kenobi ... in fact much of the time Palpatine was doing more than normal to kill his protege (as a Sith Lord is wont to do), not to mention an almost perfect plan by Vader to kill Palpatine, blah blah blah I'm slightly ashamed I typed this paragraph.

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Did Lucas already have the "first" three movies planned out as they were being made?

If so, can we expect more incest?

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So. Since everyone sucked at lightsaber fighting in Lukes time as opposed to back when lil Annie was a kid, will they all be slow and deliberate in the new films or will everyone just magically get better again? I always assumed old Obi-Wan sucked because he was old, Vader sucked because he was an old robot and Luke sucked because he was taught by old Obi-Wan. Hope that's the case........where am I?


And will technology in the movies continue to devolve?

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Did Lucas already have the "first" three movies planned out as they were being made?

If so, can we expect more incest?

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Return of the Jedi didnt just have the bad Ewoks, it nuetered a great villian. For two movies Darth Vader was a great villian and seemed like such a badass. You knew the Emporer was in charge but Vader was the guy that made it run. Then Return of the Jedi comes along and makes Vader look like a weak ass pussy and then the battalion of hand picked elite troops on Endor is defeated by a bunch of lame teddy bears.


how badass was vader to begin with, when his first words were "NOOOOOOOOOOO"?


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And will technology in the movies continue to devolve?


you can argue that technology was worse in the "old" trilogy because the empire turned every planet into a third world country...that hunk of junk luke was riding didn't necessarily seem to be considered state of the art. maybe that's all you could afford on tattooine.

it would actually make sense for technology to advance now that civilizations can flourish instead of being repressed by the evil empire.


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Hopefully Disney can take out the "Noooooo!" (when Darth killed Palpatine) that Lucas added in the new blu-ray ROTJ. I didn't have a big problem with most of the other edits and/or effect freshening Lucas had done on previous re-releases, but this ruined the scene.

Not holding my breath, though.

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Mark Hamill weighs in on the future of 'Star Wars' -- EXCLUSIVE

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Tuesday’s news that George Lucas is giving the keys to the Star Wars universe to The Walt Disney Company in a $4.05 billion mega-deal surprised fans around the world, including some famous filmmakers who grew up on the franchise. It even caught a key figure in that universe — Luke Skywalker himself, Mark Hamill — by surprise. Reached by EW, Hamill — who currently does voice work on no fewer than four animated series and will co-star in the upcoming crime thriller Sushi Girl — shared a few thoughts on where Star Wars and its fabled creator go from here now that Lucas is handing over the reins (and the light sabers and blasters and all the rest) to new custodians and the next generation of filmmakers.

ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: What did you make of the big news yesterday?
MARK HAMILL: Oh my gosh, what a shock that was! I had no idea that George was going to sell to Disney until I read it online like everybody else. He did tell us last summer about wanting to go on and do [Episodes] VII, VIII, and IX, and that [newly appointed Lucasfilm president] Kathleen Kennedy would be doing them. He seems to be in a really good place. He’s really happy. And that’s nice because I know that when we were making the movies, he was not a jolly guy on set. [Laughs] I always felt badly for him because he agonizes over details, and I’m sure after imagining it in his head for so many years, to see it realized — he’d look up and just hang his head and groan. Harrison [Ford], Carrie [Fisher], and I were always trying to cheer him up and joke him out of his doom and gloom. I missed his call yesterday, but I spoke to him maybe three weeks ago. But until we know more, it’s hard to make any comment other than congratulations to George.

EW: So you met with George this past summer and he told you about his plans to make another trilogy?
MH: Yeah, last August, he asked Carrie and I to have lunch with him and we did. I thought he was going to talk about either his retirement or the Star Wars TV series that I’ve heard about — which I don’t think we were going to be involved in anyway, because that takes place between the prequels and the ones we were in and, if Luke were in them, he’d be anywhere from a toddler to a teenager so they’d get an age-appropriate actor — or the 3-D releases. So when he said, “We decided we’re going to do Episodes VII, VIII, and IX,” I was just gobsmacked. “What? Are you nuts?!” [Laughs] I can see both sides of it. Because in a way, there was a beginning, a middle, and an end and we all lived happily ever after and that’s the way it should be — and it’s great that people have fond memories, if they do have fond memories. But on the other hand, there’s this ravenous desire on the part of the true believers to have more and more and more material. It’s one of those things: people either just don’t care for it or are passionate about it. I guess that defines what cult movies are all about. We’ll see. I’m anxious to know what’s going on, but the main story [yesterday] was the sale to Disney. I have mixed feelings about that, but they haven’t done badly by Marvel and the Muppets and Pixar. It’s one of those big decisions that at first seems unusual but then the more you look at it, the more it makes sense.

EW: When you had lunch with George, did he get into any details with you about where the story would go in the next three films, or whether you would have a part in them?
MH: Well, no, he was just talking about writers and the fact that he wouldn’t be directing. I guess he wanted us to know before everybody else knew. He said, “Now you can’t tell anybody!” [Laughs] Even now I’m nervous about saying anything. I just don’t know!

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Kevin Smith has to be kicking himself in the ass for declaring that his next movie is the last one he will direct.

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Return of the Jedi didnt just have the bad Ewoks, it nuetered a great villian. For two movies Darth Vader was a great villian and seemed like such a badass. You knew the Emporer was in charge but Vader was the guy that made it run. Then Return of the Jedi comes along and makes Vader look like a weak ass pussy and then the battalion of hand picked elite troops on Endor is defeated by a bunch of lame teddy bears.


how badass was vader to begin with, when his first words were "Where are those transmissions you intercepted? WHAT have you DONE with those plans?"

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that would be true if we didn't have episode 3. but unfortunately we do. so, no...those are no longer darth vader's first words. his first words are now a little whiny bitch who went from being a smacked ass brat to a smacked ass lifeless wanna be emo bitch to darth vader screaming "NOOOO!". he was neutered before he was neutralized.


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Revenge of the Sith is 5th at best.
I personally find it to be the worst of all of them, but I might be persuaded to kick it up one notch. It's terrible in so many ways.



I will go see the new ones.

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Does anyone else remember when the Star Wars movies first started there were going to be 9 one every 3 years first 4-6 then 1-3 and then 7-9 so they would have been over in 2001?

I would like to know what happened after Jedi.

If it's done right it will be great. Done wrong it will be terrible. I don't see much middle ground. It will either be the greatest thing since sliced bread or the worst disaster since Caleb Hanie.


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This is pretty fucking funny: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJlbPXZEpRE


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Lucasfilm Confirms Michael Arndt to Write 'Star Wars: Episode VII'
5:20 PM PST 11/9/2012 by Borys Kit

A day after THR reported news of the 'Toy Story 3' writer's treatment, confirmation of an in-progress screenplay is posted on StarWars.com.

A day after THR reported that Michael Arndt has been working with Lucasfilm for several months on a treatment for the new Star Wars movie, Lucasfilm has confirmed that the Toy Story 3 scribe will write the screenplay for Episode VII.

Arndt had written a 40- to 50-page treatment that will bring the saga of the Skywalkers, the Force-imbued family comprising Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader and twins Luke Skywalker and Princess Leia Organa, to a close in a new trilogy. The story is said to focus on a new generation of heroes and would feature appearances by Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher in older incarnations of their beloved characters from the original Star Wars trilogy.

Sources have said not to discount the possibility that a number of characters from previous Star Wars films could reappear —even the dead Jedis, who have a habit of showing up in spirit form.

The next step for Lucasfilm's Kathleen Kennedy, who is overseeing the production of the new movies for Disney, is to hire a director. One name popping up consistently amongst insiders is Brad Bird, though insiders say no choice has been made and Bird already is working on another top-secret sci-fi project for the studio.

Arndt, repped by Verve, is described as a huge Star Wars fan and well-versed in the lore of the mythology. He won an Oscar for his script for Little Miss Sunshine and was nominated for his work on Toy Story 3, helping make the Pixar movie the most emotional of the three. He also co-wrote the screenplay for the upcoming Hunger Games sequel Catching Fire.

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...is described as a huge Star Wars fan


And there's the problem. This is exactly how you end up with cloned Emperors, time-traveling Boba Fett, and...

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Great, a family reunion movie! The Brady Bunch used to do this all the time! Harrison Ford said he wants in, too. It can be like the last Indiana Jones movie!

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The only way I am cool with this if it is to set up The Thrawn Trilogy.

In fact if they do that with a whole new cast, it might actually be cool.


Grand Admiral Thrawn seemed like a bada$$. I'll take more Star Wars. It was a childhood favorite, and like pizza and $ex, good even when it's bad.

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