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Makaveli
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Terry's Peeps wrote:
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HHJ shouldn't be left off of any ballots.


It's understandable though.

Half the people voting weren't around when she was posting.

Plus picking 5 out of this group is near impossible.

She'll get in on the Veterans Committee vote.


It's damn near impossible to pick 5.
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I agree that limiting it to 5 was really tough, but HHJ was an easy choice. The other four were just randomly selected out of a pool of like 15-20 equally qualified posters.

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Gee whiz KS, too bad about those "typos" .... :wink:


Only 5 ... shit.


OKC
Douchebag
Darkside
RPB
Dr. Ken

6th man award to Ivan.

Here's to a good, clean round of voting!

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What really happened in the initial voting? Someone went mult crazy ?

What is this like the third time we've had to change a voting process?

To whoever is doing it: Get a fucking life


I think picking 5 is a shame, that's not what was said

KS, if you need someone to count, I'll volunteer to do it and I'll take myself out of the running if necessary


HHJ should be automatically in and not in this vote.


(Yes, I am fully aware of the irony of telling someone to Get a life and in the same post volunteering to manually tabulate votes for an internet message board hall of fame)


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Apologist wrote:
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Brick
Ken
Don's Piracy
Fat Quadcab
Stoneroses Eighty-Six (86)
Cairo
Zack


You're gonna have to narrow that down to no more than 5, Apologist.

Thanks

Ahh shit.
In that case, strike all of those assholes and I vote for RPB.

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Here's my 10:

Beardown
Boilermaker Rick
Chus
Darkside
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater
Irish Boy
JORR
Mr. Reason
RPB
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Q Bovifs

This is still my only vote.

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Ken
Zack
HHJ
Kid

I'll add

Spaulding
JORR
IB
Darkside
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Apologist wrote:
Keeping Score wrote:
Apologist wrote:
Brick
Ken
Don's Piracy
Fat Quadcab
Stoneroses Eighty-Six (86)
Cairo
Zack


You're gonna have to narrow that down to no more than 5, Apologist.

Thanks

Ahh shit.
In that case, strike all of those assholes and I vote for RPB.

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Darkside
Dr. Ken
Frank
Cairo

Adding Chus
Don Tiny
Ivan
Lipid
Mr. Reason

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KS, if there's somebody w/ 30 accounts (which I don't doubt) why haven't you outed them? That used to be your thing. Now that Camps is gone (RIP?) we don't have anyone else to do this anymore.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 6:48 pm 
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HHJ
Dr. Ken
Mr. Reason
Panther Bovis
Ugie
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KS, if there's somebody w/ 30 accounts (which I don't doubt) why haven't you outed them? That used to be your thing. Now that Camps is gone (RIP?) we don't have anyone else to do this anymore.


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He's got the cheat sheet, so to speak. He can tell us who anybody is. That's not fun. I want SLEUTHING! He's like the guy who creates the video game. He KNOWS all the cheat codes, because he put it all together. WE have to figure it out or beat the game on our own merits.
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Colonel Angus wrote:
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KS, if there's somebody w/ 30 accounts (which I don't doubt) why haven't you outed them? That used to be your thing. Now that Camps is gone (RIP?) we don't have anyone else to do this anymore.


Image

He's got the cheat sheet, so to speak. He can tell us who anybody is. That's not fun. I want SLEUTHING! He's like the guy who creates the video game. He KNOWS all the cheat codes, because he put it all together. WE have to figure it out or beat the game on our own merits.


I'm digging the Matrix/Tron angle on this

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Blank ballot in protest of the whole system. :wink:

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Gee whiz KS, too bad about those "typos" .... :wink:


Only 5 ... shit.

OKC
Douchebag
Darkside
RPB
Dr. Ken

6th man award to Ivan.

Here's to a good, clean round of voting!


Ivan
BRick
Frank
Ugie
W_Z

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I'd say the most egregious part is you only voted for yourself.



Q.Bovifs wrote:
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Now, as far as what happened.

First it happened in the Semifinal's. Huge voting irregularites in favor of Hank Scorpio and Q.Bovifs. That has previously been addressed. The reason it really didn't matter, was because it had no effect on the 15 advancing from each group as both Hank Scorpio and Q.Bovifs were already going to make it to The Finals.


So last night I was happening to watch that thread (talk about a life :| ) and over the course of an hour, for every few minutes or so, Hank Scorpio, Q.Bovifs, Beardown and SHARK all gained anywhere from 15 to 20 votes each. Nobody else over that time frame gained more than two. Which means either:

1. 15 to 20 different members all signed on over the course of an hour and it just so happened that nearly every one of them voted for Beardown, Hank Scorpio, Q.Bovifs and SHARK and nobody else.

2. bigfan went into accounts and manipulated the vote. I can assure you, and have been assured, that -that didn't happen.

3. Somebody has the ability to hack into accounts and vote and/or knows some vulnerability about polls and can manipulate them.

4. Some board member has upwards to 30 accounts.

5. Somebody with access to the board, other than the man, manipulated the count.

Whatever the case may be, the only way to get a good, honest vote, was to have it all out in the open.

I needed a cut off somewhere to try and circumvent further abuse, which is why 401 or more posts are needed to vote. If somebody has upwards of 30 accounts, it's doubtful they've posted much in any of them. I realize this affects some innocent and upstanding board members, but it was a decision that had to be made.

I had a sinking feeling something would be amiss as well, so I took a record at two distinct times:

I took the following screenshot at 5:50PM yesterday:

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When I went to bed that night, I remember that, for the two highest vote-getters, Q.Bovifs vote total was 40, and Dr. Ken's was 37.

And then I did a copy paste and saved the following as draft message at 8:59am today:

Sat Jan 26, 2013 8:59 am Re: POLL: CSFMB Hall of Fame Vote THE FINALS!!
Topic: VOID!!POLL: CSFMB HOF Vote THE FINALS!!VOID!! Load draft

Who belongs in the CSFMB Hall of Fame?
Poll runs till Wed Jan 30, 2013 1:01 pm
Aggravated Sox Fan Bob 2% 2% [ 13 ]
Beardown 6% 6% [ 37 ]
Boilermaker Rick 4% 4% [ 27 ]
Chus 1% 1% [ 8 ]
Colonel Angus 1% 1% [ 6 ]
Crystal Lake Hoffy 3% 3% [ 21 ]
Darkside 5% 5% [ 33 ]
donspiracy 1% 1% [ 5 ]
Don Tiny 2% 2% [ 15 ]
Douchebag 2% 2% [ 14 ]
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater 7% 7% [ 40 ]
FavreFan 1% 1% [ 5 ]
Frank Coztansa 3% 3% [ 20 ]
Hank Scorpio 5% 5% [ 28 ]
HappyHour Jason 3% 3% [ 21 ]
Irish Boy 2% 2% [ 11 ]
Joe Orr Road Rod 4% 4% [ 24 ]
Krazy Ivan 3% 3% [ 16 ]
lipidquadcab 1% 1% [ 5 ]
Mr. Reason 5% 5% [ 28 ]
Q.Bovifs 7% 7% [ 42 ] x
RodeoVann 1% 1% [ 8 ]
rogers park bryan 5% 5% [ 28 ]
SHARK 4% 4% [ 27 ]
Spaulding 2% 2% [ 14 ]
stoneroses86 2% 2% [ 10 ]
Terry's Peeps 4% 4% [ 26 ]
The Original Kid Cairo 6% 6% [ 39 ]
Ugueth Will Shiv You 1% 1% [ 8 ]
W_Z 4% 4% [ 25 ]
Total votes : 604

There were indeed several voting irregularities over the 15-hour span. The most egregious were indeed the Q.Bovifs total and the Beardown total, and the RPB and W_Z total seemed quite stable.

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Fat Quadcab
Stoneroses Eighty-Six (86)
Cairo
Zack


So yeah, keep all those original votes including lipidboers. Add Farvio and RPB.

My vote is easily influenced by emoticons posted on message boards. :bom:

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Dakside
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Crystal Lake Hoffy
Beardown
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Well surely all those distinctly different people from earlier will come forward to get those vote totals normalized. :roll: :roll: :roll:

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Dr. Ken
Ugueth
Ivan
Spaulding


Reason
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RPB
Boilermaker Rick
SHARK
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I'd say the most egregious part is you only voted for yourself.

:lol:
That bout sums it up.

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Here is my vote.

Crystal Lake Hoffy
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when's the next HOF vote gonna be? 4yrs? even if it's as soon as 1-2 years down the road, <murph> I PREDICT......</murph> that i will be in the next class. #Truth #YouCanPutItOnTheBoard

however, i'm still not going to care and prefer that i don't even make it out of the first round. #CestLaVie #MonaVie #WhereIsDustinHermanson #JimmyReardonIsTheDonOfRears #ScarletPimpernickel

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Q.Bovif
Dakside
Ivan
OKC
Hank Scorpio
Crystal Lake Hoffy
Beardown
Douchebag
Aggravated Sox Fan Bob


6. Mult votes will not be counted

This vote will not be counted.


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incidentally, if you're just gonna do manual write-in ballots, may i suggest that next time you don't even bother with giant voting lists where people have to select X-amount out of X-amount, just have the thread and be like "pick 5-10 people for the hall of fame" and BOOM, you'll have a much more accurate representation of who's actually hall of fame versus who actually wins arbitrary popularity contests relative to whatever seed/bracket/group they're in.

ideally, a hall of fame should be the best of the best.... not just like, the top 10 out of the top 10 out of the top 10 from a total pool of ~75-100 people. how many votes were cast in earlier rounds just because people had 2-3 votes left? that's not HOF material... when you say "pick 5 people from the board for the HOF" and people, unprovoked by any list, pick the first 5 names that come to mind.... that's a damn hall of fame. shomer shabbos!

(also, said method will prevent me from ever having a snocone's chance in speagol's clutches of getting in teh HOF, which is fine by me. sabado gigante!)

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when's the next HOF vote gonna be? 4yrs? even if it's as soon as 1-2 years down the road, <murph> I PREDICT......</murph> that i will be in the next class. #Truth #YouCanPutItOnTheBoard

however, i'm still not going to care and prefer that i don't even make it out of the first round. #CestLaVie #MonaVie #WhereIsDustinHermanson #JimmyReardonIsTheDonOfRears #ScarletPimpernickel


I would have voted for you.

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