If I recall, Speigs and Drinky had the rep from Guinness on and she was a comely young lass. So Speigs insinuated Abbatacola would have her up in his hotel room later.

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Drinky should pull a Goff and leave, Speigs is a bit of a jerk, but he pulled a fat man and little boy on drinky there. The biggest burns are the ones that hurt, and Speigs hurt that man's big head and pride, big time. It is days later and Drinky is still talking about it.


Drinky has a new kid, a growing family, he's 40 years old, and he doesnt have his own show after producing for a while on that station.

Writing on the wall there, son. CBS is trying to build a national sports radio network for Boomer, and they are gonna put Rome on that network, CBS is looking to take some of the market share from ESPN, who most people are tired of and seeking an alternative to, Drinky has hit the ceiling. There arent gonna be enough chairs when the music stops in that game of musical chairs.

kinda hard to live in the city and send your kids to a private school on what the Score must be paying a producer. The health care probably stinks as well. Drinky should update the resume, not give a crap about how bad Meatpants smoked him, and carry on. I give his odds on doing that about 60 40 against.

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Drinky makes 50K, his wife makes 40K, move to Berwyn, buy a $200K bungalow. Keep working at the SCORE rather than selling aluminum siding. Problem solved.

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You're right. Drinky harping on it means Spiegel got him real good. That it did hurt his pride pretty bad. He needs to drop crying about it, like I said, cuz he just sounds like a child and it only compounds the embarrasment for him. How is he getting back at Spiegel by constantly referring to himself as "The Part-timer"? That ain't hurting Spiegel. He's making it worse for himself.

Drinky needs to stop acting like an ass-clown all the damn time. That's been the big reason that nobody takes him serious and his bosses don't look at him as talk show host or reporter worthy despite giving him chances. He even makes the updates about himself more than he should. Mitch might get sick of that eventually. That's about it then. Host, reporter and update guy is all the Score has to offer. Then he's stuck as Bernstein's producer forever.

LaDrinky is a AAAA player who keeps getting passed up by younger and better talent. Maybe he should start brushing up on Sumo Wrestling so he can get a hosting gig in Japan.

Ya know, there is kind of some funny irony here. For years Goff and drinky joined in on bashing Mike Murphy on the B&B show. Murph was the enemy of B&B.

Now, drinky, and Goff before him, became the enemy of the "Mac and Spiegs Show". Ain't that a kick in the head.

isn't that just a variation of the age-old joke that a [heh heh heh] is defined as a man of the jewish persuasion who has just left the room?

but yeah, to get my echo chamber on, like it's been said upthread while these "radio wars" seem like tangible things to us, i wouldn't carry on with them too seriously cuz like, seriously, getting paid to do that stuff seriously beats the shit out of the aluminum siding avenue.

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Mac's show is actually kind of similar to Murph's in terms of adhering to sports radio conventions and working hard to prepare a show. Part of the tension with both midday shows has to come from busting ass to do a good show vs. slacking to do a great one. Of course, B&B's great shows are becoming rarer.

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I think is the first time I have ever heard someone say Mac and Spiegs bust their ass to make a good radio show.

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That might be a part of it. But I think it goes deeper. B&B are just cynical, moody angry people. The entire vibe of their show is to bitch, cry, insult and be evil. Drinky has adopted this attitude. Goff did too. M&S don't want to take this attitude from them and they don't respect the fact that the B&B producers ape their bosses. That's why M&S attack them. Cuz you can't win a fight with B&B. The producers are half-wits that act a little more important than what they are. M&S aren't gonna take their shit and they know they can take them. They want to put them in their place. And they've done so ever since Mac came back to the Score.

Well, I don't know if anyone in radio "busts their ass" when compared to a guy working construction or pulling a 24 hour shift in ER, but Mac is definitely a product of all those years with Chet and Chet is nothing if not professional. He always prepared and lined up guests and had a plan for that day's show. This as opposed to the Steve Dahl approach of walking in at showtime and winging it. Nothing to say now? Let's grab a newspaper was the Mike North answer. When bernstein is cornered he falls back on his comfort zone of Penn State, Lance Armstrong or caller bashing.

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B&B don't have mental health and/or substance abuse issues has far as I know. (shrug)

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M&H and M&S don't need to pick fights with B&B. B&B are the lowest on the totem pole. They acheive the lowest ratings and other than the tavern tour (which seems more like a burden)don't receive any comped trips (Vegas, Caribbean, NYC, NOLA, etc.). Who cares about winning a stupid argument?

That's not totally true. B&B could get sponsored trips to events. They don't want to go anywhere. They've said so. So Mitch doesn't send them. M&S and M&H enjoy going places.

Spiegel cares about winning arguments with Bernstein. He tries so hard to get him. Never does. You're right, Mac doesn't care much. But they both like attacking B&Bs soldiers. That's a fun sport for M&S.

M&S are too dumb to argue with B&B so they pick on the little guys.

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That's the point. Bernstein's producers aren't aware that they are "little guys". M&S want to remind them.

Agreed about the construction thing, yeah. But yeah, there's a lot of preparedness that goes into Mac's show, whether it's him or Zawaski and Finfer, but it's not the same too-cool-for-the-room vibe.

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B&B are consistently un-listenable because they lack much of the above. They used to be fresh and wacky and that was able to carry them during bad patches. That isn't there anymore (and hasn't been there in a few years) so you get the hackneyed, contrived and stupid shit that is the 1-6pm hour, these days, on the Score.


Mac and Meat have far more good shows than bad, but the above equation leads to more consistency. It's that simple.

I doubt the two shows in question (Murph, Mac and Dick) would have had any issues with their style if they werent attacked. (Although im no SCORE expert, maybe something happened that I didnt know about)

I cant imagine Mac losing an argument to Bernstein. You're definitely overrating B&B's intelligence.

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Think about it. How many producers are at the Score? Like 10 or 12.

Why is it always the B&B producers that are in some weird war or controversy? Why are they the only ones that talk shit and attack hosts from other shows? All of the other producers seem to know their place. You never see this sort of behavior from them. Only B&B's boys.

Seriously, why is this the case? It can't be a coincidence.

Answer: B&B producers take on B&Bs attitude and style. They get Bernstein's radio muscles cuz they know they can hide behind the B&B show for protection. So how do Mac and Spiegel handle this? They drag the B&B producers out from their protective shield, beat the shit out of them and throw them back to Bernstein. The producers go back to B&B bloodied and crying and fight back on Bernstein's show. This is what drinky has been doing after Spiegel destroyed him. Goff did the same thing with his "Da Ma Na" fight.

These guys just love to bust each other's chops. The only problem with this practice is that it doesn't work well when one party is having a bad day. I believe Spiegs was honestly sorry for his comment. As for running with the audio clips, that's a typical move by these parties.
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I still don't believe Goff was forced out by Mac. If that was the case, why would Mac and Spiegs have him back on the show as a guest. Goff wanted to be full time, and he got an offer.
As for Finfer's rise as a fill-in, it just makes sense. He's ON the show anyway.
Drinky is sticking to day work, possibly due to the birth of his son. He'd rather work as an update guy, show fill-in or B and B producer than work the weekend or take 10 p.m. to midnight weekday shift.

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Agree on the Mac/Goff stuff. I think that should be fairly obvious by now, although it did initially cause half the board to contract Beardownitis.

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But you guys are forgetting that a bunch of shifts got gobbled up with the naming of Finfer as "permanent guest host" for the Mac & Spiegs show. Mac may not have directly forced Goff out, but I think it's pretty clear that he wanted his guy to host his show when he or Spiegel weren't there. That may or may not have been triggered by the DaaMaaNaa stuff and or drug jokes.

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Finfer didn't even end up being permanent guest host. Rozner still sits in for Mac now and then.

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But for all you know you're putting the cart before the horse. We don't know what goes on behind the scenes. Maybe everyone knew for a few weeks already that Goff was gonna be moving on, and Mac went to bat for Finfer to get some of the time being freed up by Goff leaving. Finfer isn't even still the permanent sub. I dont see why Goff and Mac/Spiegs would still interact on twitter with eachother and go on the radio multiple times together since then if there is any bad blood. There certainly doesn't sound like there is.

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Mac is too big for there to be bad blood on his side. And maybe Jason learned a lesson.

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Your thought makes sense but it's no fun so I will continue to believe their is a massive feud drenched in hot, red and bad blood.

Good thought as well.

Goff got a little too big for his britches, overstepped and Mac turned it into a teachable moment.

Have you ever actually listened to Mac? Seriously? To be clear I like him...but intelligent arguments are not his strong suit. He's North with slightly more education and better grammar.

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