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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:16 am 
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When I worked at the grocery store, I wouldnt care what people bought with the Food Stamp card. If you want to buy steaks instead of cheaper food, have at it.

I would be bothered when I was carrying out the groceries to their car and we walked up to a brand new luxury SUV. That dog wont hunt.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:18 am 
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I do get annoyed when somebody uses a link card for food, then pulls out cash for cigarettes.

What exactly is it that bothers you about that? Is it the fact that they're buying cigarettes? Would you be less annoyed if that person pulled out cash for other non-food items like chapstick, aspirin, laundry detergent, etc? And you have no idea where the cash came from, so to be annoyed by that is somewhat jumping to a conclusion anyway.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:18 am 
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The remodeled Walgreen's on State and Randolph is the biggest and most elaborate I've ever seen anywhere. There's another fairly large Walgreen's in Portage near my house. These are nothing like what you'd normally see.



Walgreens loves normal.

The stores I was running across last week in AR were the exact same units you most often find in IL, IN and everywhere else.

The new store at State and Randolph, along with the new place in Bucktown are exceptions to the rule. when i was consulting for them in 2002 and 2003 they were opening 550 new locations a year. The RFP's used for materials had very few variations.

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When I worked at the grocery store, I wouldnt care what people bought with the Food Stamp card. If you want to buy steaks instead of cheaper food, have at it.

I would be bothered when I was carrying out the groceries to their car and we walked up to a brand new luxury SUV. That dog wont hunt.

They won the car in a raffle and havent been able to sell it yet


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:20 am 
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
I do get annoyed when somebody uses a link card for food, then pulls out cash for cigarettes.

What exactly is it that bothers you about that? Is it the fact that they're buying cigarettes? Would you be less annoyed if that person pulled out cash for other non-food items like chapstick, aspirin, laundry detergent, etc? And you have no idea where the cash came from, so to be annoyed by that is somewhat jumping to a conclusion anyway.
Cigarettes are expensive luxury items. It shows a lack of desire to get off of food stamps.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:21 am 
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
When I worked at the grocery store, I wouldnt care what people bought with the Food Stamp card. If you want to buy steaks instead of cheaper food, have at it.

I would be bothered when I was carrying out the groceries to their car and we walked up to a brand new luxury SUV. That dog wont hunt.

They won the car in a raffle and havent been able to sell it yet


That is what I just always assumed. The tax they had to pay on the car is the reason they had to go on food stamps. It's really quite tragic.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
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I do get annoyed when somebody uses a link card for food, then pulls out cash for cigarettes.

What exactly is it that bothers you about that? Is it the fact that they're buying cigarettes? Would you be less annoyed if that person pulled out cash for other non-food items like chapstick, aspirin, laundry detergent, etc? And you have no idea where the cash came from, so to be annoyed by that is somewhat jumping to a conclusion anyway.

I think the idea is "If you have money for cancer sticks, you have money for food"


Of course, we never know whats going on. Maybe the cigarettes are for grandpa who is watching the kids.


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Hank Scorpio wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Hank Scorpio wrote:
When I worked at the grocery store, I wouldnt care what people bought with the Food Stamp card. If you want to buy steaks instead of cheaper food, have at it.

I would be bothered when I was carrying out the groceries to their car and we walked up to a brand new luxury SUV. That dog wont hunt.

They won the car in a raffle and havent been able to sell it yet


That is what I just always assumed. The tax they had to pay on the car is the reason they had to go on food stamps. It's really quite tragic.

Im not joking though.

You never know what came from where.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:24 am 
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
I do get annoyed when somebody uses a link card for food, then pulls out cash for cigarettes.

What exactly is it that bothers you about that? Is it the fact that they're buying cigarettes? Would you be less annoyed if that person pulled out cash for other non-food items like chapstick, aspirin, laundry detergent, etc? And you have no idea where the cash came from, so to be annoyed by that is somewhat jumping to a conclusion anyway.
Cigarettes are expensive luxury items. It shows a lack of desire to get off of food stamps.

If the cigarettes are for the buyer

Also, I believe I read somewhere that cigarettes are addictive.

I get what you're saying, but I wouldnt throw that label on anyone you see pulling out cash for smokes.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:26 am 
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No, the idea is that if you have money for cigarettes, or have the desire or means to get money to buy cigarettes, why can't you use that money for something that is a lot more useful to yourself and/or your family. My thinking is that the Link card and programs like it are safety nets, not systems total support systems.

I know that if I happened upon some hard times, I certainly wouldn't be using income for something as frivolous as cigarettes or Sox tickets or something like that.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 11:28 am 
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
No, the idea is that if you have money for cigarettes, or have the desire or means to get money to buy cigarettes, why can't you use that money for something that is a lot more useful to yourself and/or your family. My thinking is that the Link card and programs like it are safety nets, not systems total support systems.

I know that if I happened upon some hard times, I certainly wouldn't be using income for something as frivolous as cigarettes or Sox tickets or something like that.

What if your crippled uncle gave you money for smokes because he physically cant make it to the store?

Tell him No?


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Maybe we should shut down the billionaires who sell highly addictive drugs to people who can't afford it. Goddamn the pusher man.

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Maybe we should shut down the billionaires who sell highly addictive drugs to people who can't afford it. Goddamn the pusher man.
I'd be all for cigarettes being illegal. We agree!

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Frank Coztansa wrote:

I know that if I happened upon some hard times, I certainly wouldn't be using income for something as frivolous as cigarettes or Sox tickets or something like that.


you can usually get Sox tickets for less than the cost of a pack of smokes


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I know. Or for free.

But thats not the point.

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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Maybe we should shut down the billionaires who sell highly addictive drugs to people who can't afford it. Goddamn the pusher man.
I'd be all for cigarettes being illegal. We agree!


Not exactly. You start by vilifying the poor man. It's your reflex as a bonafide member of the middle class.

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Not exactly. You start by vilifying the poor man. It's your reflex as a bonafide member of the middle class.
I would imagine that the poor man vilifies me just as much as I do him.

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let them smoke, they will die sooner and get off the dole.

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Not exactly. You start by vilifying the poor man. It's your reflex as a bonafide member of the middle class.
I would imagine that the poor man vilifies me just as much as I do him.


Probably not. In spite of his lack of education, he knows you are on the same side.

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I would be glad to check and bag my own groceries if there was an incentive for me to do so, like a discount. Otherwise, why should I do free work on behalf of a corporation and allow them to eliminate jobs?

Cheaper goods.


Do you really think they lower the prices because they convince people to bag their own shit? I don't believe that. Just like when a ballclub slashes their payroll in half, they don't reduce ticket prices.


Do you do this even if you are picking up say less than 10 items? Last night at the Jewels, there were 8 people in each checkout line and the self-serve machines wide open. I'm out of there in less than a minute. Opportunity cost.

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I would be glad to check and bag my own groceries if there was an incentive for me to do so, like a discount. Otherwise, why should I do free work on behalf of a corporation and allow them to eliminate jobs?

Cheaper goods.


Do you really think they lower the prices because they convince people to bag their own shit? I don't believe that. Just like when a ballclub slashes their payroll in half, they don't reduce ticket prices.


Do you do this even if you are picking up say less than 10 items? Last night at the Jewels, there were 8 people in each checkout line and the self-serve machines wide open. I'm out of there in less than a minute. Opportunity cost.


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I will never check myself out. I am a man of principle.


The My Time Holds No Value Principle?

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Not exactly. You start by vilifying the poor man. It's your reflex as a bonafide member of the middle class.
I would imagine that the poor man vilifies me just as much as I do him.


Probably not. In spite of his lack of education, he knows you are on the same side.
For some yes, for others it's simply a "has more money than me" attitude.

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I would not go to Jewels or Dominick's. I support a local businessman like Angelo Caputo.

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No car wash is as good as a personal hand-wash on your own car. No one will give the same attention to detail...no matter how prestigious the $60 wash claims to be.
This is opinion, yet you present it as fact IMUKirk.

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Then to prevent raising prices. Why pay employees to do a job that isn't needed?


What job is needed? I'm capable of growing my own food. I just prefer not to do it. I don't want to wash my own car either. I'd be pissed if my guy Earl at Crossroads got rid of his staff in the interest of "holding future prices down".

How efficient would that be? Job specialization is directly related to advanced, efficient societies.

No car wash is as good as a personal hand-wash on your own car. No one will give the same attention to detail...no matter how prestigious the $60 wash claims to be.

Yeah, no.

If I'm washing my car in the middle of February, I ain't putting that much effort into it. If I'm paying someone to do it, they better be doing a nice job.

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I would not go to Jewels or Dominick's. I support a local businessman like Angelo Caputo.


Too far away for me. Again, opportunity cost.

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Job specialization is directly related to advanced, efficient societies.

No car wash is as good as a personal hand-wash on your own car.


Huh? Who you crappin?

But as to your first point, that is exactly right. That is why people who are good (practiced) at using the cash register should be doing it, not me.

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I will never check myself out. I am a man of principle.


The My Time Holds No Value Principle?


The I Don't Assist Corporations In Cutting Their Workforce And Inconveniencing Me principle.

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I will never check myself out. I am a man of principle.


The My Time Holds No Value Principle?


The I Don't Assist Corporations In Cutting Their Workforce And Inconveniencing Me principle.


I understand the first part, but aren't you inconveniencing yourself by purposely standing in a line vs. being on your way?

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