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PostPosted: Wed Feb 13, 2013 7:38 am 
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I'm really not trying to annoy, I'm just trying to wrap my head around the fact that you think the majority of people on earth are worshipping like a Chia Pet or something, while us Christians are doing it right.
There's just no indisputable evidence for either side. I don't like to think I'm better than, or that my beliefs are better than or truer than anothers.


This. Jesus said, "If you are not against us, you are with us." This is different than if you are not with us you are against us which seems is how many people view their own religions.


To me, "If you are not against us, you are with us" preaches acceptance of all non-violent people (yes including gayes) and their religions.

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In listening to the "Christians" on this board- Don Tiny excepted- it's pretty clear why Christianity is a religion on the wane while Islam is on the rise. I hardly think you will be able to find many Muslims who will agree that your God is equal to theirs. While you are elevating Allah to sit at the same table with Yahweh, they are planning to cut your head off for suggesting Jesus is greater than Muhammad. "There is no God but God and Muhammad is his Prophet." That isn't some innocuous religious dogma. That's a manifesto. That's a threat.


I'm cool losing the fanaticism battle.

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In reality, there is no way that any current religion is close to correct. Too many retellings and translations and corruptions by those who use religion to profit.

Be a good person. Do good things. Avoid doing bad things. Avoid immoral drugs. After you die, when they ask why should go to heaven just say you did good things. I can promise you one thing. When you die and are begging to get into heaven, attending church every Sunday and putting money in a collection tray won't keep a good person out or let a bad person in. However, allowing people to pay for "forgiveness" is a great way to pay the bills.


Good works will not get you into heaven. Rick, have you accepted Jesus Christ as your personal savior?
I guess I have. I'm not that concerned. I'm going to argue myself in.

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Keeping Score wrote:
I guess all in all, I agree with a lot of Brick's sentiments:


Boilermaker Rick wrote:
In reality, there is no way that any current religion is close to correct. Too many retellings and translations and corruptions by those who use religion to profit.

Be a good person. Do good things. Avoid doing bad things. Avoid immoral drugs. After you die, when they ask why should go to heaven just say you did good things. I can promise you one thing. When you die and are begging to get into heaven, attending church every Sunday and putting money in a collection tray won't keep a good person out or let a bad person in. However, allowing people to pay for "forgiveness" is a great way to pay the bills.


Except the absurd drug part.


More than likely, Catholicism probably isn't for me. But I was born into it, and my mother is darn near a patron saint of the religion.

I'm sure there's not a religion that fits me. I also don't think you need a specific religion to be in touch with God and to carry out his greater agenda, and to ultimately be accepted into his kingdom.
You can still use drugs. Just use the moral ones.

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So, Keeping Score has all the unanswerable questions that children usually have about catholicism

Its not about getting into heaven or following a set of rules. Its about faith. Spend less time worrying about what you and others wear to church and what they may be thinking and more time developing your faith, if thats what you want.


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JORR and Don Tiny laying down the truth here.

I hope I can watch Brick trying to argue his way in... :lol:

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JORR and Don Tiny laying down the truth here.

I hope I can watch Brick trying to argue his way in... :lol:


Can you see the Pearly Gates from Hell? :D

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RFDC wrote:
JORR and Don Tiny laying down the truth here.

I hope I can watch Brick trying to argue his way in... :lol:


What seems like an eternity to god is just a moment to Rick

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JORR and Don Tiny laying down the truth here.

I hope I can watch Brick trying to argue his way in... :lol:


Can you see the Pearly Gates from Hell? :D


How horribly rude and hilarious .... :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Keeping Score wrote:
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How 'bout the living together/sex before marriage thing?



The Catholic church does not condone living together or sexual relations before marriage.

The rise in failed marriages, unwanted children and pregnancies and the percenatge of failed marriages where this has occurred seems to show that God may be on to something.


Are couples with a ring, a piece of paper and a title more in love and care about each other more than those couples that don't make it "Official"?


Take religion and love out of the equation. "Official" formalizes the committment.

It is kind of like pinky promising versus signing a contract. The intent of the person making the promise may be the same. The gravity of the committment in the eyes of just about everyone is not.

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Don Tiny wrote:
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JORR and Don Tiny laying down the truth here.

I hope I can watch Brick trying to argue his way in... :lol:


Can you see the Pearly Gates from Hell? :D


How horribly rude and hilarious .... :lol: :lol: :lol:


You've taught me well Obi-Wan.

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As a Lutheran, all I know is that you Catholics are all screwed up :wink:


Lutherans are just Catholic Lite. You are the Coke Zero of the religious world.

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Keeping Score wrote:
I guess that's a point I've been striving towards all day in some respects. We (Catholics or Christians) are NOT better than everybody else though we often come across that way....ESPECIALLY Catholics. Do onto others and all that stuff, but mainly all we do is judge.


Honestly, the fuck you talkin bout? Don't lay your psychosis on everyone.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
RFDC wrote:
JORR and Don Tiny laying down the truth here.

I hope I can watch Brick trying to argue his way in... :lol:


Can you see the Pearly Gates from Hell? :D

I don't know, we will have to see.

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I think Judaism is the best religion. The way it's idealistic and pragmatic at the same time really appeals to me.

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Keeping Score wrote:
What about atheists and others of like thinking, are they all going to hell or what exactly becomes of them since they did not believe?


Why are you so stuck on this heaven and hell thing?

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What about atheists and others of like thinking, are they all going to hell or what exactly becomes of them since they did not believe?


Why are you so stuck on this heaven and hell thing?


He's an ex-con who enjoys the taste of penis. Why do you think?

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Ok, what's the deal with the ashes? You people look like idiots today. The fuck is wrong with you?

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I think Judaism is the best religion. The way it's idealistic and pragmatic at the same time really appeals to me.


The whole Friday night thing wouldn't fly with my social agenda and those suits look so uncomfortable during the summer.

Jesus was a Jew and the apostles continued to think of themselves that way even after his death.

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Ok, what's the deal with the ashes? You people look like idiots today. The fuck is wrong with you?


Not sure if serious ........

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Ok, what's the deal with the ashes? You people look like idiots today. The fuck is wrong with you?


Yet another odd ritual.
So is wearing a yarmulke and praying 7 times a day while facing a certain direction. All religions have strange traditions.

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Uh. You talked about an odd catholic ritual. I merely pointed out that other religions also have some strange rituals.

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Uh. You talked about an odd catholic ritual. I merely pointed out that other religions also have some strange rituals.

That's great, but we're talking about Catholicism here.

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Keeping Score wrote:
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Ok, what's the deal with the ashes? You people look like idiots today. The fuck is wrong with you?


Yet another odd ritual.
So is wearing a yarmulke and praying 7 times a day while facing a certain direction. All religions have strange traditions.


Read the title Frank. I'm not here to talk about Yarmulkeicism.

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We can only make fun of Catholics here silly.

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In listening to the "Christians" on this board- Don Tiny excepted- it's pretty clear why Christianity is a religion on the wane while Islam is on the rise. I hardly think you will be able to find many Muslims who will agree that your God is equal to theirs. While you are elevating Allah to sit at the same table with Yahweh, they are planning to cut your head off for suggesting Jesus is greater than Muhammad. "There is no God but God and Muhammad is his Prophet." That isn't some innocuous religious dogma. That's a manifesto. That's a threat.


I'm cool losing the fanaticism battle.



Is it really possible to be fanatical- or perhaps I should say less than fanatical- when it comes to the matter of eternal salvation?

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Ok, what's the deal with the ashes? You people look like idiots today. The fuck is wrong with you?


How come people don't have dip for dinner? Why is it only a snack, why can't it be a meal, you know? I don't understand stuff like that.

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The Catholics and Christians just seem so ironclad in their beliefs. It seems arrogant and ignorant to me that so many don't allow for even the smallest percentage of their thoughts to be occupied that others may be just as right as they seem to think they are.


I don't know if you've watched the Manedlbaum episode of Seinfeld way too much, but nobody but you is making any reference to having some bizarre mindset of "you think you're better than me".

Just remember that the "smartest" theologian amongst us has a flimsier grasp of God and everything else than your pet does of what happens when you go to work.

Your sins are forgiven via Christ, not anything else ... no other god, not how many times you pray or put money in the plate or hold your tongue or don't steal or avert your gaze from a nice set of tits. You're forgiven, you're all good w/ God in that respect, go live your life as you see fit. Relax for crying out loud. God created basketball as much as the clear evening sky or eggs benedict with asparagus and extra hollandaise.

God gives pointers and "suggestions" as to how to live properly for your own sake, we all ignore most of it, and still wonder why we find ourselves madder than a raped ape and up to our eyeballs in shit and misery. We're dumb; we're all dumb. But He loves us anyway, and we'll get a clear understanding of the whole fuckpile of life once we're out and gone. Relax; nobody gets out of here alive anyway.

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Keeping Score wrote:
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Uh. You talked about an odd catholic ritual. I merely pointed out that other religions also have some strange rituals.


True. And they do. Thanks. Are you Catholic?


The seller used to break a clump of mud or break a stick over the buyer's head in order to finalize a real estate purchase back in the days when men were men. There are strange traditions in just about everything we do.

Hell, 75% of us are walking around with sliced wangs mainly out of tradition.

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