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Should have saved that one for Hawger.

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Hawg can't be saved.

he talks about shit he doesn't know all the time. Just yesterday he was talking about how Ventura outmanaged his team's Pythagorean record. Then one of his stooges looked it up. The 2012 Sox had a better offense than Detroit and a larger run differential. Shouldn't a Chicago sports talker know that before he begins spouting bullshit?

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Did you hear when Scott from Davenport emailed that pythagorean records dont hold up over time?


I thought Dan was gonna cry

No, I missed that. But he was pissing me off when he kept saying "the Pyathagorean record is what a team should have done." No, a team should have done exactly what it did. I guess he has to rethink things now that he has new information from a trusted B&b ALS source.

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It's funny listening to their naivete on the propriety of legistation and how it gets passed.

You know what, those bar owners are losing a lot of money by not being able to stay open all night. The city should just let them operate like a business...screw the welfare of the public that existed before the bar was there. At the very least they should all be able to operate until 4 am because some are allowed to operate until that time.

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Did I really hear Hochberg pimping that he sets you up with a team of lawyers, inspectors and realtors? Is he disclosing that he is getting a cut from each of them and that, at best, their loyalties are going to lean towards getting the deal closed for Hochberg rather than the buyer's best interests?

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Yeah, and I hate the idea that the Cubs should be able to run roughshod over other businesses, the city, and the neighbors' quality of life because SPORTS. Terry keeps saying "let them be a damn Major League team." The City of Chicago has never stopped the Cubs from being a damn Major League team. The idle-rich Wrigley ownership and cheap-midday-programming Tribune ownership is what has stopped the Cubs from being a damn Major League team.


God, what a goon.

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They act as if the rooftops and creepy ball hawks are not part of the Wrigley experience and that the Cubs haven't heavily monitized (you like that Dan?) that experience.

Sure the Cubs could move to glorious Schaumburg and probably with open arms. I would bet it wouldn't increase attendance. I would bet it would decrease attendance by year 3 of the new stadium.

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In the years that I have watched the Cubs I have given almost zero thought to these dreaded ballhawks. Okay, so some losers hang out in the street waiting for home run balls. Yeah, and a homeless black man walks around in a complete uniform saying "woo" over and over. And Murph used to hang out in the bleachers and play a bugle. You get some weird characters on the periphery, but it's hardly worth dwelling upon.

As for the rooftops, yeah, more than 17% of their revenue should go to the Cubs since they're effectively selling skyboxes to Cubs games, but it doesn't really chap my ass. The Cubs would just squander the money anyway like they always do.

I don't care that Wrigley Field isn't a perfectly fare-controlled engine of team-owned commerce. So some weirdos make a buck and some people take in some free baseball. Big fucking deal. If the Wrigleys or Tribune had ever deigned to build competent scouting and development departments, nobody would be blaming the Cubs' drought on fucking day baseball or rooftop clubs. Such ridiculousness.

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It's very rare when you hear someone argue that professional sports teams should screw the local community and the city and the state more.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

The thing is people make movies about the "ballhawks". It all feeds in to the Cubs/Wrigley aura. If dan or Terry or anyone else really believes that the Cubs without Wrigley are some special franchise, they're kidding themselves. They're just a bad losing team.

The whole ballgame is that antique park. You can start taking away pieces of the puzzle and see what happens. Block the rooftops. They don't mean shit. Close the streets and move the ballhawks. Who cares? Why waste a good advertising wall on ivy? That space needs to be monetized. I'm not sure when it stops being Wrigley Field, but if you keep fucking with it, you'll eventually get there.

It's sort of like when you stop being you. If I cut off your pinky, you're still you. If I take off both your legs, you're still you. What if I remove your head or your heart? Are you still you? They won't know that they've destroyed the "Wrigley Experience" until they've done it and then it will be too late. Nobody is going to care about watching a shitty ballclub in a modern stadium. We can find those in a lot of places.

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Not if you listen to WSCR from 1-6. Bacardi at the Park is awesome!

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The Cubs have benefitted from the presence of those rooftops as much as the rooftops have benefitted from them. This is a team that sells items that are simply "Wrigley Field" with no team identifier. I think those buildings are seen as indistinguishable from the stadium to anyone going there for the aesthetic.

It would be like one building in a historic district being considered the entirety of the historic district. Everything is complimentary to each other and collectively heightens the worthiness.

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I agree. It's special because of it's one of the last two old parks. Fenway is special too. Really smart people are aware of that fact and have enough sense not to move the team to Arlington Heights.

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I just hope they put up big billboards for home run balls to bounce back against so that some loser can't sell a baseball to another loser on eBay! That's taking small money from a big business and frankly I just won't stand for it.

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He used the "really smart people" line again yesterday when talking about who they hired to handle the renovation lobbying.

1) Dan has no clue who they hired
2) I'd say this has not been handled well and has only shown minimal movement once the Cubs said "we will pay for everything"

Dan also came close to openly stating that Tunney would take a bribe on this. He pulled back VERY quickly once he was asked for clarification.

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Yeah, I heard that. Some caller said "so you think he's just going to find an envelope" and Dan recoiled and was like "NOOOOO it's just old-fashioned horse trading."

I'm half-convinced Dan is just overusing Really Smart People to troll the board back for making fun of him doing it in the first place. It's escalating.

But yeah, all the Cubs have done is trip on their dick. Remember when Wally Hayward was the Really Smart Person who was going to turn Wrigley into Great Lakes Fenway? Yeah, that guy doesn't even work there anymore. Oops.

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If the Cubs don't like the rooftop owners power, the solution to me has always been to buy up the buildings? We just experienced the shittiest real estate market in our life times. It would have been a perfect opportunity to buy cheap. However, even if you had to pay above market wouldn't that be worth it for the freedom. All of those owners are businessmen. They would all sell for a price.

Of course, the most obvious solution to me is to hire some of Burke's designated lobbyists to lobby the mayor and city council to condemn the buildings and sell them back to the Cubs while turning a tidy profit. There would be some bad press but I think the city in general would welcome the idea. Tunney could object but there would be nothing he could do.

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Mac ans Spieg opened their show making fun of those who complained about Rose giving his story to USA Today instead of the "local media". Will this come up in tranny? Tune in to find out.

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I think their would be some pretty big tax ramifications if Loukas and the Murphys were to sell buildings they bought for a couple hundred grand for whatever market might be on those things.

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Nope, just roll that into the purchase of another building or buildings and the tax is temporarily avoided.

The rental residential market in general and particularly in that area is white hot right now so they wouldn't be selling for cheap. The best time would have been three years ago. So now you would have to overpay but even getting a single block would give you a significant upper hand in realizing the grand mardi gras scheme.

It would certainly be expensive, but you just plunked down 800 million, what's another 100 to get what you want?

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