I was about to make an unnecessary joke, and I thought about something. Angle and Benoit were both sent to be stars of ECW, when they were struggling with severe drug and mental issues.

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Pimping ain't easy bro.

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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Anytime anyone says pimpin ain't easy I think of the story Mick Foley wrote about in his book about the Shrimpin,limpin,and something else ain't easy.

That's all I got, I'll show myself out.

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Swagger Arrest: What should Vince do? What will Vince do? Two ex-creative team members tell PWTorch

Feb 20, 2013 - 6:45:27 PM

By Wade Keller, PWTorch editor

Two former WWE writers have told PWTorch what they think Vince McMahon will do with Jack Swagger now that he's made headlines for a DUI and pot possession arrest.

Former WWE creative team member Court Bauer (@courtbauer) tells me this afternoon he wouldn't trust Jack Swagger again.

"Irresponsible and immature," he told me a few minutes ago. "I wouldn't trust Swagger again, frankly. What a stupid, stupid move by Swagger. This is RVD allll over again. I remember that situation quite clear and what the options and sentiment were as a result. WWE has 3 options: 1- Stay the course; 2- Reboot + replace Swagger; 3- Abort angle.

"I'm curious to see which way they go. I think they can salvage this and find an even better talent to build this around. I've heard Vince LOVES the concept and has been more focussed on this than 80 percent of the WWE creative since it started. He's going to likely opt for option 1 or 2. I am DYING to see what goes down."

Another ex-WWE writer who opted to remain anonymous chimed in via email with similar thoughts. He wrote:

"That's so unfortunate. It's a good thing Zeb Coulter was getting all the heat anyways. I don't know what they do. Either keep his spot if they don't like other options or somehow they get them to wrestle sooner and put someone else in the role at Mania. Orton? Henry? Regardless it's more fuel for anyone opposed to pushing him."

Bauer concurs that having Swagger wrestle sooner than WrestleMania would be the way to get him the World Title shot he earned by winning the Elimination Chamber, but punish him by excluding him from the WrestleMania line-up.

I suggested perhaps Chris Hero get brought in to replace Swagger, since Hero is a veteran who has paid dues in developmental and the indies scene for years.

Bauer said: "Hero is a good option. Bray Wyatt or Luke Harper might be more 'authentic.' Harper still isn't ready for the bright lights and Bray may not fit the criteria for the super push. Hero might be able to adjust and project that type of persona. The hillbilly beard certainly helps.

"If this was up to me, I'd hot shot the Del Rio-Swagger match and put it on Raw, and put Del Rio over strong. Swagger fades out of picture… Then Dutch calls for reinforcements and out comes one of the above and that guy does the BIG heat angle that sets this thing on fire. He demolishes Del Rio, Rodriguez… maybe send out Rey & Sin Cara and more of the same. They cut a promo saying 'Wrestler X' is the man behind the movement and this was all a trap. They then finally take this from being a straight-laced political stance to a dialed up wrestling warped POV on an issue and make it something controversial (instead of just a relatively sterile political perspective).

"They go for the jugular and get some real (cheap) Tennessee heat on this bad boy and Del Rio suffers a big injury. The next week Del Rio demands a fight with the new guy and the new guy refuses unless he has it at WM - the #1 media market so he can spread his message and he wants the belt. Del Rio accepts and they build him as a fighting champion - even when severely injured going into WM. That sets up a plausible finish that keeps Del Rio on good footing despite losing at WM. You could still insert Swagger as a Mr. Hughes/Diesel heater where he doesn't have to talk and can get physical and yet be completely disposable down the road."

The other ex-writer says: "Developmental would be the way to go if it didn't involve a World Title or WrestleMania. No way Vince gives a fresh guy that spot. They may just go forward with it and deal with his consequences after Mania and have Zeb recruit someone else who can 'get the job done'."

In our PWTorch website and app poll, with over 500 votes already in just a half hour, 43 percent voted for "Stay the Course, but he's on probation." The rest - 57 percent - want him to be demoted or fired, but are split on whether to do it right away or wait until after WrestleMania. Second place was "Demote him or fire him post-WM29" with 34 percent, followed by "Fire him now" in third place at 23 percent.

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Does anyone else find it funny the Tea Party came out and said this is defamation? The Swagger angle, not the arrest.

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Didn't we do a Tea Party angle last year?

I like the idea of Hero or someone taking Swagger's place with Dirty Dutch.

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I'm pretty sure we did. My point is, when asked for comment, they said this racist was taking over their gimmick. Maybe it hit too close to home.

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That makes me smile.

I hope Vince lets Dutch use actual Tea Party speeches from now on. Maybe he can talk about legitimate rape.

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Probably a good thing it wasn't a DUI, because reading some comments from people, Dutch Mantell's granddaughter was killed by a driver that was under the influence.

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Who the fuck is going to wear a 5x???

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That's my purse! I don't know you!

meatpants?

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
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Look around this site http://www.peopleofwalmart.com/
You will find a few after a couple of minutes

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

Is that a nightgown?

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This is my signature...

It sure looks like it, you also gotta love that all the buttons are buttoned up, too.

Doesn't he have something else in his wardrobe that would look, uh, better?

If this gets Hero brought up to the show, I'm cool with it.

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I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out. - Bill Hicks

Let's do it for Johnny!

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"He is a loathsome, offensive brute
--yet I can't look away."

WWE comes up with a racist character. FOX News personalities and the Tea Party feel the need to make a statement saying they're offended. Anyone else find this hilarious?

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Power is always in the hands of the masses of men. What oppresses the masses is their own ignorance, their own short-sighted selfishness.
- Henry George

Lets see it.

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That's my purse! I don't know you!

www.twitter.com @RRWWE

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The more I think about, it's just not a big deal. There's no gag order, dudes are twittering about stuff related to it. It's public that Cena was banging a porn-ho and that's no big deal. The funkadelik-dactyl chick gave false info to a cop, tried to bribe a cop, got a dui and her punishment was 2 weeks off tv. Orton messes up every other week and everyone who went through FCW got a dui in Tampa. Swagger wasn't even drinking. Linda's election is over. If there's pics out there of Obama getting high, who really cares about a pretend fighter? If they play their cards right, this is nothing but good pr. Plus it was in Mississippi, I'm sure it was an illegal search anyways.

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Mississippi...a state where you can drink out of an open container in a car as long as you are under the limit...i think or at least your passenger can have an open container and be drinking.

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That's my purse! I don't know you!

No, not hilarious in the slightest. Nor do I find their subsequent inviting Glenn Beck to their show... to do what? Be seen as they scan through the audience? To have them come and do some segment with Dutch? Because... somebody like Glenn Beck likes some bullshit publicity, too.

Nope, not eyebrow-raising, hilarious nor entertaining in any way, shape or form. And don't get the idea that maybe I'm offended by these characters in some way (I like Dutch a lot.) What I *am* saying is that I don't need to see all forms of drama and comedy, filtered through their performance by wrestler-cum-actors.

Ain't nothing new, either. Russo for example, would see nothing wrong with writing Romeo and Juliet with Cena and Punk in the starring roles (no idea who wears the skirt; maybe they take turns.) And that casts us back to the Attitude era. Come to think of it, Romeo and Juliet is kinda high-fallutnin' -- Brady Bunch is more his target.

We got some MMA mavens here. Let me ask: do you guys have this kind of bullshit written into your matches? Or, are they athletic contests with a veneer of realism? And do you think, given that the answer's (b), that this might explain the popularity of MMA? Just sayin'..

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Middle Aged Crazy, like Uncle Terry

First, I hate the attention being given to Glenn Beck, former morning zoo host, making millions off morons. You missed my point. FOX decided they had to respond. Let's say someone here posts something racist in the Elmhurst area. If I respond, saying I don't represent what he's saying, it is justifying that I'm somewhat guilty of said thoughts. None of the promos referenced FOX News, the Tea Party, etc. They came out afterwards and said they were offended and slandered.

Also, you can't come here suggesting every angle needs to be like Memphis in the good old days, and be offended by this angle. If this was Jerry Jarrett booking in 1981, Dutch would be slapping around his wife while talking about them Mexicans.

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