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I'm pretty sure this is the end of crazy Rick. and the beginning of "I'm going to hunt you down and kill you" Rick.


I don't think he's quite there yet.

Next week looks to be Rick being ousted as leader.

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Next week looks to be Rick being ousted as leader.


Dummy.

I kind of hated this episode.

Andrea continues to be turrible.

And I hate how Tyrese is being positioned.

Next week looks like it could be fantastic though.

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Next week does look really good. Having most of the episode revolve around Andrea was different.
Still don't know what she has rattling around her head. I really hope next week is good as this has
been a slower start to the 2nd half of the season than expected.

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Next week looks to be Rick being ousted as leader.


Dummy.

I kind of hated this episode.

Andrea continues to be turrible.

And I hate how Tyrese is being positioned.

Next week looks like it could be fantastic though.


Not a good episode, not good at all. I have no fucking idea why they put Tyrese on that path.

The writers turned Andrea into a cluster fuck of a character. Dumb, naive, stupid, ignorant, retarded, dumb, silly...did I miss any? She goes to the prison and expects them to welcome her with open arms? She actually believes that Rick and Co. fired first and that they are blood thirsty? Did she not spend the last 2 years with them? Did she not see the wrecked gate and all the walkers in the prison yard? Dead Axl? Did she not see the zombie daughter? The heads in the fish tank? She never bothered to ask about why the head of the helicopter pilot was in there or what happened to the soldiers? Fuck, they have Merl their in the prison as a member of the group, he was the Gov. right hand man! I think he would know a thing or two about what goes on behind the scenes.

Just bad and she needs to die because I want her to die but also because her character is a net negative for the show.


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Maybe they are positioning Tyrese this way to set up a better post-prison story than there was in the comics.

But it still pisses me off.

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I actually thought last nights episode was significantly better than the previous two. It looks like they are finally starting to move on from the Tortured Rick angle, which was one of the worst subplots of the whole series and really didn't need to be addressed for more than one episode.


I agree they have been miswriting the Andrea character but I'm guessing the badass from the comics shows up in the next couple episodes. Unfortunately, it'll probably look too forced and hard to believe given how they've written her so far.

Herschel had a strong episode.

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I actually thought last nights episode was significantly better than the previous two. It looks like they are finally starting to move on from the Tortured Rick angle, which was one of the worst subplots of the whole series and really didn't need to be addressed for more than one episode.


I agree they have been miswriting the Andrea character but I'm guessing the badass from the comics shows up in the next couple episodes. Unfortunately, it'll probably look too forced and hard to believe given how they've written her so far.

Herschel had a strong episode.


Andrea is too far gone, at least in my opinion. Maybe some good writing will fix her but I don't see any of that on the horizon.

The complete lack of self-awareness, intelligence and the ability so put 1+1 together to get 2 has spoiled her character.

Her trying to explain herself, convince the other characters to "sit down" with the Gov., not being able to understand why they don't trust her and actually thinking that Rick and Crew started this war showed her to be a total moron and brain dead. They have Merl sitting right there and she is shocked they don't buy what she is selling.

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Andrea is too far gone, at least in my opinion. Maybe some good writing will fix her but I don't see any of that on the horizon.

No chance. Walking Dead writers have some kind of vendetta against women. All the female characters continue to suck. I haven't read the comics but I keep hearing Andrea and Michonne supposedly are awesome characters. Still waiting...


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Yeah Michonne actually speaks in the comics. Shocking concept when tryin to develop a character I guess.

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Next week looks to be Rick being ousted as leader.


Dummy.

I kind of hated this episode.

Andrea continues to be turrible.

And I hate how Tyrese is being positioned.

Next week looks like it could be fantastic though.


Not a good episode, not good at all. I have no fucking idea why they put Tyrese on that path.

The writers turned Andrea into a cluster fuck of a character. Dumb, naive, stupid, ignorant, retarded, dumb, silly...did I miss any? She goes to the prison and expects them to welcome her with open arms? She actually believes that Rick and Co. fired first and that they are blood thirsty? Did she not spend the last 2 years with them? Did she not see the wrecked gate and all the walkers in the prison yard? Dead Axl? Did she not see the zombie daughter? The heads in the fish tank? She never bothered to ask about why the head of the helicopter pilot was in there or what happened to the soldiers? Fuck, they have Merl their in the prison as a member of the group, he was the Gov. right hand man! I think he would know a thing or two about what goes on behind the scenes.

Just bad and she needs to die because I want her to die but also because her character is a net negative for the show.



You guys are nuts! Andrea's character is awesome. Based on the information she has, she is actiing perfectly fine and making wise decisions. She's never been to the prison before, how would she know that the gate was recently wrecked or the zombies just got there??? That's a really stupid comment on your part. The heads in the fish tank? The Governor already explaine that he did that to desensitize himself to the violence and decisions he would have to make. Kind of a lame explanation, but an explanation nonetheless. Penny? He explained that last night and came off as a grieving father. The helicoptor pilot? We have no idea if she saw that head. The soldiers? Don't remember that being an issue. If I recall correctly that was explained that they were already killed by zombies before the Governor got there and took their supplies. Merle? Don't really understand your point since i didn't see him and Andrea have any conversations last night about what the governor is really up to.

All of your complaints are idiotic.

She's an amazing character and right now is still working off the idea that the Governor isn't a total psychopath, Woodbury is a great place with great people worth hanging onto, and this whole thing wtih the prison is a big misunderstanding that can be worked out. As she gets more info she will figure it out and ultimately make the right decisions.

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Next week looks to be Rick being ousted as leader.


Dummy.

I kind of hated this episode.

Andrea continues to be turrible.

And I hate how Tyrese is being positioned.

Next week looks like it could be fantastic though.


Not a good episode, not good at all. I have no fucking idea why they put Tyrese on that path.

The writers turned Andrea into a cluster fuck of a character. Dumb, naive, stupid, ignorant, retarded, dumb, silly...did I miss any? She goes to the prison and expects them to welcome her with open arms? She actually believes that Rick and Co. fired first and that they are blood thirsty? Did she not spend the last 2 years with them? Did she not see the wrecked gate and all the walkers in the prison yard? Dead Axl? Did she not see the zombie daughter? The heads in the fish tank? She never bothered to ask about why the head of the helicopter pilot was in there or what happened to the soldiers? Fuck, they have Merl their in the prison as a member of the group, he was the Gov. right hand man! I think he would know a thing or two about what goes on behind the scenes.

Just bad and she needs to die because I want her to die but also because her character is a net negative for the show.



You guys are nuts! Andrea's character is awesome. Based on the information she has, she is actiing perfectly fine and making wise decisions. She's never been to the prison before, how would she know that the gate was recently wrecked or the zombies just got there??? That's a really stupid comment on your part. The heads in the fish tank? The Governor already explaine that he did that to desensitize himself to the violence and decisions he would have to make. Kind of a lame explanation, but an explanation nonetheless. Penny? He explained that last night and came off as a grieving father. The helicoptor pilot? We have no idea if she saw that head. The soldiers? Don't remember that being an issue. If I recall correctly that was explained that they were already killed by zombies before the Governor got there and took their supplies. Merle? Don't really understand your point since i didn't see him and Andrea have any conversations last night about what the governor is really up to.

All of your complaints are idiotic.

She's an amazing character and right now is still working off the idea that the Governor isn't a total psychopath, Woodbury is a great place with great people worth hanging onto, and this whole thing wtih the prison is a big misunderstanding that can be worked out. As she gets more info she will figure it out and ultimately make the right decisions.


You're a fucking idiot. Do you watch the show? She has been a dumb character and undeserving of any understanding or sympathy from the beginning. She is totally blind and deaf to whatever is going on in Woodbury. How long has she been there? Does she just stay in her room all the time? Not talking to anyone? Always with that pained expression on her face? Bad.

She sucks now, she sucked in Season 1 and she, most likely, will forever suck....just like your thoughts above.


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You're a fucking idiot. Do you watch the show? She has been a dumb character and undeserving of any understanding or sympathy from the beginning. She is totally blind and deaf to whatever is going on in Woodbury. How long has she been there? Does she just stay in her room all the time? Not talking to anyone? Always with that pained expression on her face? Bad.

She sucks now, she sucked in Season 1 and she, most likely, will forever suck....just like your thoughts above.



So basically I successfully refute every one of your idiotic complaints and all you got in return is general statements about your personal dislike for her based on your idiotic inability to interpret a television show.

You're a dummmy Caller Bob and you should probably stop watching the show since it is obviously confusing you to the point of blind rage.

Andrea is awesome, easily one of the best characters on the show.

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You're a fucking idiot. Do you watch the show? She has been a dumb character and undeserving of any understanding or sympathy from the beginning. She is totally blind and deaf to whatever is going on in Woodbury. How long has she been there? Does she just stay in her room all the time? Not talking to anyone? Always with that pained expression on her face? Bad.

She sucks now, she sucked in Season 1 and she, most likely, will forever suck....just like your thoughts above.



So basically I successfully refute every one of your idiotic complaints and all you got in return is general statements about your personal dislike for her based on your idiotic inability to interpret a television show.

You're a dummmy Caller Bob and you should probably stop watching the show since it is obviously confusing you to the point of blind rage.

Andrea is awesome, easily one of the best characters on the show.


More bad thoughts. You didn't refute shit, clown, you spat out a bunch of drivel that would only make sense in this strange alternate reality you live in. Maybe there Andrea is a decent, well-written, fully fleshed out character because she certainly isn't in the world I presently occupy. Are you huffing glue during the show?

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You can't simply dismiss this as a lame excuse. Any person with a brain would call bullshit on that and become skeptical. For her serial killer psychopath detector to not go off is terrible writing.


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Dummy.

I kind of hated this episode.

Andrea continues to be turrible.

And I hate how Tyrese is being positioned.

Next week looks like it could be fantastic though.


Not a good episode, not good at all. I have no fucking idea why they put Tyrese on that path.

The writers turned Andrea into a cluster fuck of a character. Dumb, naive, stupid, ignorant, retarded, dumb, silly...did I miss any? She goes to the prison and expects them to welcome her with open arms? She actually believes that Rick and Co. fired first and that they are blood thirsty? Did she not spend the last 2 years with them? Did she not see the wrecked gate and all the walkers in the prison yard? Dead Axl? Did she not see the zombie daughter? The heads in the fish tank? She never bothered to ask about why the head of the helicopter pilot was in there or what happened to the soldiers? Fuck, they have Merl their in the prison as a member of the group, he was the Gov. right hand man! I think he would know a thing or two about what goes on behind the scenes.

Just bad and she needs to die because I want her to die but also because her character is a net negative for the show.



You guys are nuts! Andrea's character is awesome. Based on the information she has, she is actiing perfectly fine and making wise decisions. She's never been to the prison before, how would she know that the gate was recently wrecked or the zombies just got there??? That's a really stupid comment on your part. The heads in the fish tank? The Governor already explaine that he did that to desensitize himself to the violence and decisions he would have to make. Kind of a lame explanation, but an explanation nonetheless. Penny? He explained that last night and came off as a grieving father. The helicoptor pilot? We have no idea if she saw that head. The soldiers? Don't remember that being an issue. If I recall correctly that was explained that they were already killed by zombies before the Governor got there and took their supplies. Merle? Don't really understand your point since i didn't see him and Andrea have any conversations last night about what the governor is really up to.

All of your complaints are idiotic.

She's an amazing character and right now is still working off the idea that the Governor isn't a total psychopath, Woodbury is a great place with great people worth hanging onto, and this whole thing wtih the prison is a big misunderstanding that can be worked out. As she gets more info she will figure it out and ultimately make the right decisions.

This is the worst post you have ever made. Andrea is a horrible character in the tv show and almost universally regarded as such.

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You can't simply dismiss this as a lame excuse. Any person with a brain would call bullshit on that and become skeptical. For her serial killer psychopath detector to not go off is terrible writing.

Good point. That was probably the weakest part in a very weak post by shakes.

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You can't simply dismiss this as a lame excuse. Any person with a brain would call bullshit on that and become skeptical. For her serial killer psychopath detector to not go off is terrible writing.



you can't say that cause you don't live in a zombie infested world where facing zombies is a daily occurrence. You have no idea what's normal and what's not in that type of world.

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The heads in the fish tank? The Governor already explaine that he did that to desensitize himself to the violence and decisions he would have to make.

You can't simply dismiss this as a lame excuse. Any person with a brain would call bullshit on that and become skeptical. For her serial killer psychopath detector to not go off is terrible writing.



you can't say that cause you don't live in a zombie infested world where facing zombies is a daily occurrence. You have no idea what's normal and what's not in that type of world.

This is a horrible justification for your weak post. By your logic, someone could be excused for doing literally anything because they live in a zombie world.

Did 312player hack into shakes account or something? He's usually not this simple.

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You can't simply dismiss this as a lame excuse. Any person with a brain would call bullshit on that and become skeptical. For her serial killer psychopath detector to not go off is terrible writing.



you can't say that cause you don't live in a zombie infested world where facing zombies is a daily occurrence. You have no idea what's normal and what's not in that type of world.

She doesn't need to act like Michonne and have instant distrust of the Governor. But after witnessing the acquariums, zombie coliseum "entertainment" and pitting Merle/Daryl fight to the death and not conclude this man is psychotic is just so weak.


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The rumor was Mazzara got fired because the 2nd half of this season was so bad.

I'm starting to think that could be true. None of these episodes have matched the tension of the first half.

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I'm starting to think that could be true. None of these episodes have matched the tension of the first half.


I'm starting to think Mazzara wanted to remain faithful to the comic and Kirkman wanted a chance for some do-overs and that led to the parting of the ways.

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The heads in the fish tank? The Governor already explaine that he did that to desensitize himself to the violence and decisions he would have to make.

You can't simply dismiss this as a lame excuse. Any person with a brain would call bullshit on that and become skeptical. For her serial killer psychopath detector to not go off is terrible writing.



you can't say that cause you don't live in a zombie infested world where facing zombies is a daily occurrence. You have no idea what's normal and what's not in that type of world.

She doesn't need to act like Michonne and have instant distrust of the Governor. But after witnessing the acquariums, zombie coliseum "entertainment" and pitting Merle/Daryl fight to the death and not conclude this man is psychotic is just so weak.




So where was your psyhcopath detector when Darryl was walking around with a zombie ear necklace? Or is that ok because its Darryl and all the viewers love him?


Face it, you don't have the credentials to evaluate Andrea's reactions because unlike her, you haven't been living for the past 2 years as zombie prey. I imagine living in that type of world non stop would turn people in such a way that outlandish psychoathic behavoir would be brushed off as no big deal.

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Then no one has any cause to criticize any tv show ever.

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Then no one has any cause to criticize any tv show ever.

shakes is brutal in this thread.


I think he's defending Andrea based on the comic instead of the show.

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Could be good news for Season 4? Don't really know enough about the guy.....



'The Walking Dead' names new showrunner

AMC made it official today by announcing that Scott M. Gimple will take over as showrunner and executive producer of The Walking Dead for season four. Production will resume in Atlanta, GA. on May 6.

Gimple has been on the show’s writing staff since season two. “Scott has been an essential part of this show since he came aboard at the very beginning of season two. He’s contributed to guiding this show in a substantial way that has resulted in a lot of the key scenes and storylines fans have dubbed signature moments of The Walking Dead,” said Executive Producer Robert Kirkman in a statement. “I am thrilled to begin work on a brand new season of The Walking Dead with Scott at the helm, and I truly believe we could be embarking on what will be the best season of this show yet.”

“I’m thrilled to continue the tradition of the spectacular, cinematic, horrifying, exciting and emotional storytelling of The Walking Dead,” added Gimple in a statement. “I’m a huge fan of the comics, and started with the show on the other side of the set, as an avid viewer. Over the past two years, it’s been an incredible privilege making such great television with the best cast and crew I’ve ever worked with – I can’t wait to make some more.”

Gimple was responsible for episode 306 (“Hounded”) and last season’s climatic mid-season finale episode 207 (“Pretty Much Dead Already”), which revealed Sophia in the barn.

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Someguy is 100% correct, Andrea was slightly less irritating than Laurie ...but both characters suck n needed to be killed off long ago.

I think michone is great...sure she could get more lines but that works for her as being a loner badass.

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I'm glad you guys don't have any input on television shows.

People watch because a character behaves in an irrational, completely idiotic manner. They want to see what the moron will do next. Will she figure it out? Will she keep being a complete dope?

It's the same deal with Skyler from Breaking Bad. She annoys the shit out of everyone. But you keep watching. It's part of life. Can't kill off every character that isn't "tough" or a "bad ass"...

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I'm glad you guys don't have any input on television shows.

People watch because a character behaves in an irrational, completely idiotic manner. They want to see what the moron will do next. Will she figure it out? Will she keep being a complete dope?

It's the same deal with Skyler from Breaking Bad. She annoys the shit out of everyone. But you keep watching. It's part of life. Can't kill off every character that isn't "tough" or a "bad ass"...


Spoken like a true B&B fan.

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 Post subject: Re: The Walking Dead
PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2013 11:02 am 
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Krazy Ivan wrote:
I'm glad you guys don't have any input on television shows.

People watch because a character behaves in an irrational, completely idiotic manner. They want to see what the moron will do next. Will she figure it out? Will she keep being a complete dope?

It's the same deal with Skyler from Breaking Bad. She annoys the shit out of everyone. But you keep watching. It's part of life. Can't kill off every character that isn't "tough" or a "bad ass"...

Skyler is frustrating but her actions/thoughts are believable. Andrea's actions make zero sense. Also, the show has painted Andrea as "tough" and "bad ass" and she still sucks.


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 Post subject: Re: The Walking Dead
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Kirkwood wrote:
Andrea's actions make zero sense.



No. They absolutely make sense. Woodbury is a dream for someone living in that world.

She is making decisions to overlook things in order to ensure her survival. She could have killed the Gov. but didn't. Why? She's not sure if it would fuck everything up.

It's frustrating to us becasue we get to see every angle of everyones life on the show. She's currently making poor decisions. Will she always? Probably not. But it happens. People do dumb things when they are too trusting or are given information in small doses after being fed lies for a long time...

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