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 Post subject: Re: Same Sex Parents
PostPosted: Mon Feb 25, 2013 3:42 pm 
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Yeah really. I dunno how Seacrest drew his conclusion from what you said...which is pretty much fact that some Mom-Dad couples are god awful parents.

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 Post subject: Re: Same Sex Parents
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My kids are being raised by no sex parents.

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 Post subject: Re: Same Sex Parents
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See, there's a perfect example of a Seacrest strawman.

No one is judging anyone by their worst offering.

But the fact that I even listed that some Man/Woman couples are inept parents, has bothered Seacrest to the point where he is trying to act like I ripped traditional couples in general.

Anyone with a brain who is reading can see I did not do that.

Again, Two loving parents are better than one. That is my position, regardless of gender.



It's not my strawman. It's yours.

I will judge two parent homes by the worst ones available in order to defend my position as a single parent.

I will judge an entire religion religion by the abhorent actions of less than 2% of it's members rather than by it's best or saintly persons.

Thanks for more judgements about my personal feelings. It's really all you have in this discussion. Your opinions.

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 Post subject: Re: Same Sex Parents
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What are you talking about? He basically said that some people are bad parents. Gay, straight, married, single, moms, dads....any one of those can fall into the category of "bad parents." That isn't judging anybody. Thats pretty much posting a fact.

This whole thing actually says more about you than anybody else.

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Seacrest is right. You should never judge any person or group of people by their worst quality, you should always look for the best in them. That is exactly what Seacrest does and because I am a man of the church, I do the same thing. I tell my boys Hitler was a leader of men and Nazis only wanted the world to be clean. That is why I never criticize Obummer for being.... #Truth

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Rug munching and lollipop licking is not the parenting God had in mind. It does not matter how much they love the kid or care for them. Abusive and absent parents love their kids in a weird way too. God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. #Truth

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 Post subject: Re: Same Sex Parents
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Seacrest wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
See, there's a perfect example of a Seacrest strawman.

No one is judging anyone by their worst offering.

But the fact that I even listed that some Man/Woman couples are inept parents, has bothered Seacrest to the point where he is trying to act like I ripped traditional couples in general.

Anyone with a brain who is reading can see I did not do that.

Again, Two loving parents are better than one. That is my position, regardless of gender.



It's not my strawman. It's yours.

I will judge two parent homes by the worst ones available in order to defend my position as a single parent.

I will judge an entire religion religion by the abhorent actions of less than 2% of it's members rather than by it's best or saintly persons.

Thanks for more judgements about my personal feelings. It's really all you have in this discussion. Your opinions.

Now you've resorted to lying.

I did not judge two parent homes. I merely pointed out some are not great parents. This is not a contraversial stance or a judgment of the entire group. No sane person would take that as an overall judgment.

I don't know where I was "defending my position as a single parent" Maybe your bringing in thoughts from old threads

I have not judged any religion ever in my life. I continue to try and find my way with regards to religion but I've never had a strong enough feeling to know or truly have faith in any one way of thinking.. Another lie.

I don't know why you take any perceived negative comment about anything and take t as an overall judgment but that doesn't make sense.

I have also not judged your feelings. I have said nothing about your feelings.


I will say if you're trying to promote Catholicism, I'd lose that 2% comment.

98% Non pedophiles is not a good slogan.


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Whether right or wrong, you're putting that child in a very difficult spot with their piers. Grade school and high school is hard enough socially for most children - I couldn't imagine having to deal with the harassment that is likely to come from having parents of the same sex.


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 Post subject: Re: Same Sex Parents
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Whether right or wrong, you're putting that child in a very difficult spot with their piers. Grade school and high school is hard enough socially for most children - I couldn't imagine having to deal with the harassment that is likely to come from having parents of the same sex.

Some truth to that but it will be more common.

I mean parents of mixed race faced the same battle in the past


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
See, there's a perfect example of a Seacrest strawman.

No one is judging anyone by their worst offering.

But the fact that I even listed that some Man/Woman couples are inept parents, has bothered Seacrest to the point where he is trying to act like I ripped traditional couples in general.

Anyone with a brain who is reading can see I did not do that.

Again, Two loving parents are better than one. That is my position, regardless of gender.



It's not my strawman. It's yours.

I will judge two parent homes by the worst ones available in order to defend my position as a single parent.

I will judge an entire religion religion by the abhorent actions of less than 2% of it's members rather than by it's best or saintly persons.

Thanks for more judgements about my personal feelings. It's really all you have in this discussion. Your opinions.

Now you've resorted to lying.

I did not judge two parent homes. I merely pointed out some are not great parents. This is not a contraversial stance or a judgment of the entire group. No sane person would take that as an overall judgment.

I don't know where I was "defending my position as a single parent" Maybe your bringing in thoughts from old threads

I have not judged any religion ever in my life. I continue to try and find my way with regards to religion but I've never had a strong enough feeling to know or truly have faith in any one way of thinking.. Another lie.

I don't know why you take any perceived negative comment about anything and take t as an overall judgment but that doesn't make sense.

I have also not judged your feelings. I have said nothing about your feelings.


I will say if you're trying to promote Catholicism, I'd lose that 2% comment.

98% Non pedophiles is not a good slogan.


Once again we are left with your summation of a discussion. And lo and behold, it's less than flattering again.

And the single parent thoughts are from an old thread. Your point is taken and that is a mistake on my part.

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 Post subject: Re: Same Sex Parents
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At one of my old schools we once had a dad who fathered three kids by three different women in the same 5th grade class. That can't be anymore confusing than two moms or dads.

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 Post subject: Re: Same Sex Parents
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Seacrest wrote:

98% Non pedophiles is not a good slogan.


Once again we are left with your summation of a discussion. And lo and behold, it's less than flattering again.

And the single parent thoughts are from an old thread. Your point is taken and that is a mistake on my part.[/quote]
Im sorry that my opinion of the catholic church is not 100% positive. I dont know what to tell you.

I was raised in the church and went to catholic school for 12 years. My opinion is not some throw away comment, its informed by years of observation.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Seacrest wrote:

98% Non pedophiles is not a good slogan.


Once again we are left with your summation of a discussion. And lo and behold, it's less than flattering again.

And the single parent thoughts are from an old thread. Your point is taken and that is a mistake on my part.

Im sorry that my opinion of the catholic church is not 100% positive. I dont know what to tell you.

I was raised in the church and went to catholic school for 12 years. My opinion is not some throw away comment, its informed by years of observation.[/quote]


So for years you have heard people say this as a slogan?

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So for years you have heard people say this as a slogan?

I saw you type that 2% of the church is bad as if 2% is small enough to dismiss.

You brought the numbers in.

My point, as if you already didnt know, is that 2% is still too much.

I guess maybe the fact that a priest raped friends and classmates of mine growing up effectively ruining their lives is affecting how I respond to your comment.

I STILL have not judged the church as a whole. But I wont bite my tongue about the disgusting deeds either.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Seacrest wrote:

So for years you have heard people say this as a slogan?

I saw you type that 2% of the church is bad as if 2% is small enough to dismiss.

You brought the numbers in.

My point, as if you already didnt know, is that 2% is still too much.

I guess maybe the fact that a priest raped friends and classmates of mine growing up effectively ruining their lives is affecting how I respond to your comment.

I STILL have not judged the church as a whole. But I wont bite my tongue about the disgusting deeds either.



Any percent is too much.

Nor should you bite your tongue.

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Seacrest wrote:
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So for years you have heard people say this as a slogan?

I saw you type that 2% of the church is bad as if 2% is small enough to dismiss.

You brought the numbers in.

My point, as if you already didnt know, is that 2% is still too much.

I guess maybe the fact that a priest raped friends and classmates of mine growing up effectively ruining their lives is affecting how I respond to your comment.

I STILL have not judged the church as a whole. But I wont bite my tongue about the disgusting deeds either.



Any percent is too much.

Nor should you bite your tongue.

Common ground.

I know many amazing people in the catholic church as well.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
Seacrest wrote:
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So for years you have heard people say this as a slogan?

I saw you type that 2% of the church is bad as if 2% is small enough to dismiss.

You brought the numbers in.

My point, as if you already didnt know, is that 2% is still too much.

I guess maybe the fact that a priest raped friends and classmates of mine growing up effectively ruining their lives is affecting how I respond to your comment.

I STILL have not judged the church as a whole. But I wont bite my tongue about the disgusting deeds either.



Any percent is too much.

Nor should you bite your tongue.

Common ground.

I know many amazing people in the catholic church as well.


Your flattery embarasses me.

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