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Budweiser waters down its beer, lawsuit alleges

Beer lovers across the U.S. have accused Anheuser-Busch of watering down its Budweiser, Michelob and other brands, in class-action suits seeking millions in damages. The suits, filed in Pennsylvania, California and other states, claim consumers have been cheated out of the alcohol content stated on labels. Budweiser and Michelob each boast of being 5 percent alcohol, while some "light" versions are said to be just over 4 percent.

The lawsuits are based on information from former employees at the company's 13 U.S. breweries, some in high-level plant positions, according to lead lawyer Josh Boxer of San Rafael, Calif. "Our information comes from former employees at Anheuser-Busch, who have informed us that as a matter of corporate practice, all of their products mentioned (in the lawsuit) are watered down," Boxer said. "It's a simple cost-saving measure, and it's very significant." The excess water is added just before bottling and cuts the stated alcohol content by 3 percent to 8 percent, he said. Anheuser-Busch InBev called the claims "groundless" and said its beers fully comply with labeling laws. "Our beers are in full compliance with all alcohol labeling laws. We proudly adhere to the highest standards in brewing our beers, which have made them the best-selling in the U.S. and the world," Peter Kraemer, vice president of brewing and supply, said in a statement. The suit involves 10 Anheuser-Busch products: Budweiser, Bud Ice, Bud Light Platinum, Michelob, Michelob Ultra, Hurricane High Gravity Lager, King Cobra, Busch Ice, Natural Ice and Bud Light Lime. Anheuser-Busch, based in St. Louis, Mo., merged with InBev in 2008 to form the world's largest alcohol producer, headquartered in Belgium. In 2011, the company produced 10 billion gallons of malt beverages, 3 billion of them in the U.S., and reported $22 billion in profits from that category, the lawsuit said. According to the lawsuit, the company has sophisticated equipment that measures the alcohol content throughout the brewing process and is accurate to within one-hundredth of a percent. But after the merger, the company increasingly chose to dilute its popular brands of beer, the lawsuit alleged. "Following the merger, AB vigorously accelerated the deceptive practices described below, sacrificing the quality products once produced by Anheuser-Busch in order to reduce costs," said the lead lawsuit, filed Friday in federal court in San Francisco on behalf of consumers in the lower 48 states. Companion suits are being filed this week in Pennsylvania, New Jersey and elsewhere. Each seeks at least $5 million in damages. The named Pennsylvania plaintiffs, Thomas and Gerald Greenberg of Ambler, said they buy six cases of the affected Anheuser-Busch products a month. They did not immediately return a message Tuesday, and Boxer would not elaborate on their purchases except to say the consumer-protection suit does not involve retailers or bar owners. One of the California plaintiffs, Nina Giampaoli of Sonoma County, said she bought a six-pack of Budweiser every week for the past four years. "I think it's wrong for huge corporations to lie to their loyal customers — I really feel cheated. No matter what the product is, people should be able to rely on the information companies put on their labels," Giampaoli said in a news release issued by Boxer's law firm.

Bloomberg News first reported Tuesday on the lawsuits. In a telephone interview with The Associated Press, Boxer said he has evidence to corroborate the former employees' allegations, but stopped short of saying the beers had been independently tested. "AB (Anheuser-Busch) never intends for the malt beverage to possess the amount of alcohol that is stated on the label. As a result, AB's customers are overcharged for watered-down beer and AB is unjustly enriched by the additional volume it can sell," the lawsuit said.

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People drink Anheuser-Busch products?


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People drink Anheuser-Busch products?

Bud Light Lime on a summer day is great.


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I think the people who drank it are damaged just fine.


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It is essentially water compared to what I drink.

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Seems pretty easy to test, right? It almost has to be the case that the beer is watered down, or these plaintiffs will look like complete idiots. The question is what the penalty should be, if any. How strict are the labeling laws? I would imagine it's worse to understate the alcohol content that overstate it from a safety standpoint.

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It is essentially water compared to what I drink.


It's a little known fact that Hoffy's semen is 10% alcohol by volume.

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People drink Anheuser-Busch products?
Just because you don't doesn't mean other people have to hate it too.

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It is essentially water compared to what I drink.
Who cares. See above.

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So companies should be allowed to mis-label their products?

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DEEEE-NIDE

How soon we forget that Anheuser-Busch paid for the hotel of the Bad News Bears in Houston so they could play at the Astrodome.

Without Anheuser-Busch, they would have been sleeping in Kelly's dads girlfriend's one bedroom apartment.


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How about cutting back on the massive advertising budget? I know of very few people who drink a certain
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DEEEE-NIDE

How soon we forget that Anheuser-Busch paid for the hotel of the Bad News Bears in Houston so they could play at the Astrodome.

Without Anheuser-Busch, they would have been sleeping in Kelly's dads girlfriend's one bedroom apartment.


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rogers park bryan wrote:
DEEEE-NIDE

How soon we forget that Anheuser-Busch paid for the hotel of the Bad News Bears in Houston so they could play at the Astrodome.

Without Anheuser-Busch, they would have been sleeping in Kelly's dads girlfriend's one bedroom apartment.


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They are accused of watering down bud light? How is it possible to water down water?

That reminds me of when I went to Fenway Park in 2000. In the concourse there was a stand selling bud light. They were pouring from tappers that were in a brick wall. What was on the other side of that wall? The Mens' bathroom :lol: :lol:

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They are accused of watering down bud light? How is it possible to water down water?

That reminds me of when I went to Fenway Park in 2000. In the concourse there was a stand selling bud light. They were pouring from tappers that were in a brick wall. What was on the other side of that wall? The Mens' bathroom :lol: :lol:


Holy cow! That's a great joke! Man, I've never heard that one before! No one in this thread has certainly gone in that direction!


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They are accused of watering down bud light? How is it possible to water down water?


Holy cow! That's a great joke! Man, I've never heard that one before! No one in this thread has certainly gone in that direction!



Harsh, but fair.

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They are accused of watering down bud light? How is it possible to water down water?


Holy cow! That's a great joke! Man, I've never heard that one before! No one in this thread has certainly gone in that direction!



Harsh, but fair.


I don't drink Bud Light or much light beer for that matter so I can care less who makes fun of what.


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