I go as far as Some Girls.

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What the fuck?

The only overproduced Beatles album is Let It Be, which duh Phil Spector. George Martin is one of the greatest producers ever, maybe second only to Eno.

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I dont think you can go wrong with Zeppelin, Stones, The Who or The Beatles. I would put the Beatles at the top but those are the top 4 bands of all time. Only the order can be disputed.

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The Smiths are up there. Smaller catalogue, but their highs are as high as anyone's. "There Is A Light That Never Goes Out" might be one of the most perfect songs ever written.

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So music peaked in the late 70s and not a single band in 30 years has been able to compete?

The idea that the 60s and 70s is some magical musical time and that current bands aren't as good or better is something I'll never understand. It just doesn't make sense to me. You'd think someone would have found a way to be worth something in the last 30 years.

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Every genre does this. Wynton Marsalis is one of the worst offenders of "jazz was only jazz for a few months in 1964 and everything thereafter was just crap." And seemingly no composer is allowed to be as great as Beethoven and Mozart. I never even liked Mozart.

But yeah, while I'll freely admit that many of my favorite acts fall in the 1964-1979 sweet spot (Frank Zappa, Miles Davis, Led Zeppelin, Beatles), I still listen to a lot of '80s-present stuff and enjoy it very much.

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The Stones suck. You want a good Stones song? Try "You Got the Silver". It's got Keith Richards on main vocals and Ronnie Wood on backing vocals. Nearly every Stones song Jagger sings on is awful. I can put up with "Gimmie Shelter", "Honkey Tonk Woman" and a few other songs where the harmony overcomes bad melody, but other than that you can have the whole thing. I'll stick with the Beatles. If you're going to list them in order, it goes:

Beatles
Led Zepplin
The Kinks
The Who

Notice what these bands all have in common: good to great lead singer(s).

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Yeah, in terms of Frontmen Who What They Lacked In Singing Made Up For In Being Edgy And Dangerous, it's Lou Reed followed by everyone else. Jagger is just a mincing misogynist. That's the worst kind!

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Boy this is even worse than your basketball thoughts somehow. And I love the Kinks but to say Ray Davies is a great singer is a stretch.

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Oh geeze.........

Correct.

Also, Start Me Up is more a pop dance song for the late 70s/early 80s crowd than a rock song, thus why it makes a functionally less-than-attractive rock song.

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yeah...so you don't think his voice sounds good on say, "Celluloid Heroes?"

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We could do this all day. Do you think Mick Jagger's voice sucks on "Angie"? I think they are pretty comprable singers honestly.

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As much as I love Led-Zeppelin, Robert Plant was the weakest link of the 4. His stage presence and his persona moreso than his voice is what made him legendary.

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ok...so you're insane.


wait...no, you're insane too.

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I am not going to break my long standing rule to get involved in musical arguments because it is so subjective. I am heading back to the Kellen Davis thread. Have fun in here errrrybody

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Robert Plant, at his peak, was the best vocalist among those four bands. Over time, I'd say Roger Daltrey's voice is more impressively there than anyone else, but at times Pete's the best vocalist in that band.

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What's so great about Beethoven? Everyone talks about how "great" Beethoven was. Beethoven wasn't so great. He never got his picture on a bubble gum card. How can you say someone is great who's never had his picture on a bubble gum card?

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No, I'm perfectly sane. You go ahead and try to argue that Robert Plant was better at his craft than Jimmy Page, John Paul Jones, or John Bonham.

Daltrey I'll give you, but before he got sick Freddie Mercury was a better singer than the other 3 you initially listed.

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You can't, but that speaks more to the other three's strength than to Plant's relative weakness.

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2 of those bands dont even have ONE dedicated lead singer

Plant was good, no doubt, but his voice was totally shredded and burnt out by the end of LZ.

It was sad listening to him during Live-Aid....and sad in a funny way to see Jimmy Page so fucked up

yes, Freddie was better. But Robert had some vocal issues too. Led Zep 1-3 were great but his vocal progressively got worse after that. Yes, I do think before that Plant was an equal partner in that band. They would not have worked at all without him.

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I'm not sure where that contradicts what I said. The Beatles had three lead singers. All were good, although I'd say both John and George could be sketchy depending on the song. But all three were better than Jagger. Both Pete and Roger were better, far better than Jagger.

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So you have a thing against M. Jagger?

Cool.

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Comparisons like those being made are great for internet debate/fight stuff. I like em all, depends a lot on the mood and environment. Some will fall out of favor for a while then come back.

I seem to remember a I HATE ZEPPELIN or STAIRWAY thread several years back as some believed them to be overplayed. It happens. Wait a couple years and they/it are awesome again. hohum.