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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 11:02 am 
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I'm not sure exactly what Northwestern AD Jim Phillips has in mind for a men's basketball program that still has NEVER been in the NCAA Tournament in school history. Does he give Duke assistant & onetime local high school basketball start Chris Collins his first bite of the coaching apple or does he think even bigger than that? Quite frankly, I'm not sure what he has in mind, let alone if other coaches in college basketball might use Northwestern as leverage to stay where they're at now.


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:03 pm 
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I'm not sure exactly what Northwestern AD Jim Phillips has in mind for a men's basketball program that still has NEVER been in the NCAA Tournament in school history. Does he give Duke assistant & onetime local high school basketball start Chris Collins his first bite of the coaching apple or does he think even bigger than that? Quite frankly, I'm not sure what he has in mind, let alone if other coaches in college basketball might use Northwestern as leverage to stay where they're at now.

SHARK, you literally just repeated everything that has been posted in this thread, why?

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SHARK wrote:
I'm not sure exactly what Northwestern AD Jim Phillips has in mind for a men's basketball program that still has NEVER been in the NCAA Tournament in school history. Does he give Duke assistant & onetime local high school basketball start Chris Collins his first bite of the coaching apple or does he think even bigger than that? Quite frankly, I'm not sure what he has in mind, let alone if other coaches in college basketball might use Northwestern as leverage to stay where they're at now.

SHARK, you literally just repeated everything that has been posted in this thread, why?

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:07 pm 
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SHARK wrote:
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SHARK wrote:
I'm not sure exactly what Northwestern AD Jim Phillips has in mind for a men's basketball program that still has NEVER been in the NCAA Tournament in school history. Does he give Duke assistant & onetime local high school basketball start Chris Collins his first bite of the coaching apple or does he think even bigger than that? Quite frankly, I'm not sure what he has in mind, let alone if other coaches in college basketball might use Northwestern as leverage to stay where they're at now.

SHARK, you literally just repeated everything that has been posted in this thread, why?

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Read the thread, it is all there.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:14 pm 
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Okay...I don't know who can do what Bill Carmody didn't do in 13 years up in Evanston. His fellow Big Ten coaches can swing the bat for Carmody all they want, but it's a bottom line business. I don't think the Northwestern HC job is an attractive job in college basketball.


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Okay...I don't know who can do what Bill Carmody didn't do in 13 years up in Evanston. His fellow Big Ten coaches can swing the bat for Carmody all they want, but it's a bottom line business. I don't think the Northwestern HC job is an attractive job in college basketball.


That's not a unique view, SHARK. It's widely known as the worst job in college basketball (or one of the worst). Worst facilities. Worst fan support. High academic requirements. I actually know a former NU b-ball coach pretty well. He's confided in me how tough it is to succeed there. It's an abysmal job... the only upside is that your bar is much lower... just make 1 friggin' tournament in 13 years!!


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Okay...I don't know who can do what Bill Carmody didn't do in 13 years up in Evanston. His fellow Big Ten coaches can swing the bat for Carmody all they want, but it's a bottom line business. I don't think the Northwestern HC job is an attractive job in college basketball.


That's not a unique view, SHARK. It's widely known as the worst job in college basketball (or one of the worst). Worst facilities. Worst fan support. High academic requirements. I actually know a former NU b-ball coach pretty well. He's confided in me how tough it is to succeed there. It's an abysmal job... the only upside is that your bar is much lower... just make 1 friggin' tournament in 13 years!!

I heard ESPN's Dan Dakich, in town for the start of the Big Ten Tournament at United Center, mention the crummy facilities among other things when he joined ESPN Radio's "Waddle & Silvy" in studio late last week.

Needless to say, Welsh-Ryan Arena isn't Cameron Indoor Stadium where Duke calls home. I thought I heard that Northwestern's home arena hasn't necessarily been remodeled in some 3 decades...


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:27 pm 
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Do not concur NU is a bad job. They'll put fair cash on the table and give you plenty of time. Low expectations. Great for an old-timer not looking to set the world on fire.

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13 years is a long time to coach with limited success. While facilities and fan support sell programs to recruits, you still have to get the players for your system and succeed. Carmody had moderate success but you have to do more. He'll likely end up on his feet somewhere else - he still has a career record above 500 and had two 20 win years at NU.

I don't see Chris Collins jumping at the chance. Coach K assistants tend to wait it out for the right job and not just any job. Look at Johnny Dawkins - he waited 10 years at Duke before going to Stanford. Amaker coached for several years and went to Seton Hall. Wojo is waiting too.


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13 years is a long time to coach with limited success. While facilities and fan support sell programs to recruits, you still have to get the players for your system and succeed. Carmody had moderate success but you have to do more. He'll likely end up on his feet somewhere else - he still has a career record above 500 and had two 20 win years at NU.

I don't see Chris Collins jumping at the chance. Coach K assistants tend to wait it out for the right job and not just any job. Look at Johnny Dawkins - he waited 10 years at Duke before going to Stanford. Amaker coached for several years and went to Seton Hall. Wojo is waiting too.

Actually, I thought Tommy Amaker's now coaching Harvard these days, and they're in the NCAA Tournament for the second year in a row as the Ivy League's lone representative.


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Hawkeye Vince wrote:
13 years is a long time to coach with limited success. While facilities and fan support sell programs to recruits, you still have to get the players for your system and succeed. Carmody had moderate success but you have to do more. He'll likely end up on his feet somewhere else - he still has a career record above 500 and had two 20 win years at NU.

I don't see Chris Collins jumping at the chance. Coach K assistants tend to wait it out for the right job and not just any job. Look at Johnny Dawkins - he waited 10 years at Duke before going to Stanford. Amaker coached for several years and went to Seton Hall. Wojo is waiting too.


I think Duke is just too comfortable for them to leave for anything but the best positions where no rebuilding is necessary (at least with the former player crop of Coach K assistants). I don't think that has been great for their professional development. Coach K had a string of assistants who had success as head coaches in other programs. These guys just seem to linger.

Wojo is the Krzysewski heir according to my guys.

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Teddy just tweeted that Chris Collins will interview next week and that Jeff Capel not being considered at this time.


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Assuming Bernsie's Amaker story is true, you know Collins is going to bring the same transcripts to the interview.

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I think the Amaker story is like the Richard Gere gerbil story. If you hear it enough times, it must be true.


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